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9/25/2013 9:01:58 AM EDT
Did a dupe search didnt find anything.

Looks pretty bad ass.

http://kitup.military.com/2013/09/gds-long-range-machine-gun.html

9/25/2013 9:07:01 AM EDT
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Purpose?  As opposed to our current LMGs in  5.56 and 7.62?
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The LWMMG fires a 300 grain .338 caliber bullet and is capable of effective fire out to 1,700 meters, compared to the M240 round which is effective out to 1,100 meters.

Read more: http://kitup.military.com/2013/09/gds-long-range-machine-gun.html#ixzz2fvQoMHbn
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9/25/2013 9:09:42 AM EDT
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Those barrels won't last long.

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9/25/2013 9:09:53 AM EDT
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AFG is a big place
9/25/2013 9:09:57 AM EDT
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Much better penetration at range than 7.62 NATO, IIRC.

Middle Eastern architecture is pretty resilient.
9/25/2013 9:10:00 AM EDT
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Amurica! thats why
9/25/2013 9:10:44 AM EDT
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Being able to lay heavier fire on a target, at longer range, than a .308.  And not have to lug a .50

9/25/2013 9:10:49 AM EDT
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I posted about this a long time ago. (Not calling dupe)

Looks like a sweet gun. I hope to get some trigger time with one some time.
9/25/2013 9:11:10 AM EDT
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BIGGER NUMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111!!!!!!!!!
9/25/2013 9:13:44 AM EDT
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that's gonna be hella expensive to feed
9/25/2013 9:16:45 AM EDT
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338 Nora Mag?









Damn sweet rig right there . What a hoot to shoot ......do want !
"It puts a lot of energy on the target; it doesn’t compare to the .50
cal which is a 650 grain bullet, but we are not trying to replace the
.50 cal,” the GD official said. The LWMMG isn’t being marketed as a
replacement for the M240 either even though it’s about 4 pounds lighter.
The heavier, .338NM ammo weighs about 9 pounds for every 100-round box.
One hundred rounds of 7.62mm weights about seven pounds.




"You can mount this anywhere an M240 will mount,” he said. "You can
put effective fire on targets at extended ranges, and that is why we
chose that round; we built the weapon around the round.”


The plan
was to build the LWMMG in the same round as U.S. Special Operations
Command’s new Precision Sniper Rifle, which Remington is now building in
.338 Lapua magnum, GD officials said. While the company is pleased with
the performance of the shorter .338NM cartridge, it would not be
difficult to convert it to .338 Lapua
, GD officials maintain.

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9/25/2013 9:17:17 AM EDT
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and to rebarrel

in other news i have a friend currently manufacturing a .50BMG 1911A1 conversion...

Yes, a 1911A1 in .50BMG..
9/25/2013 9:20:43 AM EDT
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9/25/2013 9:23:22 AM EDT
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The LWMMG fires a 300 grain .338 caliber bullet and is capable of effective fire out to 1,700 meters, compared to the M240 round which is effective out to 1,100 meters.

Read more: http://kitup.military.com/2013/09/gds-long-range-machine-gun.html#ixzz2fvQoMHbn
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Max effective range for the 240 is 1800 meters.
9/25/2013 9:23:46 AM EDT
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and to rebarrel

in other news i have a friend currently manufacturing a .50BMG 1911A1 conversion...

Yes, a 1911A1 in .50BMG..


I don't usually befriend masochists, but I like 1911s.  
9/25/2013 9:24:15 AM EDT
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Bullets that are 3-5 times the weight in an MG that will mount in the same space as 5.56 & 7.62 rigs would normally occupy .



 
9/25/2013 9:25:06 AM EDT
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It's only money, and it's the gov's money - not yours. So why worry? They'll print more if they run out. Oh, well it WAS your money. Not any more.




Besides, you'll never get one but your local PD will.
9/25/2013 9:29:36 AM EDT
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Can I trade in some of my shares for two of those and a pallet of ammo?
9/25/2013 9:35:06 AM EDT
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If I wanted an MG chambered in $5 bills, I would just pick the .50

Kharn

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9/25/2013 9:38:37 AM EDT
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.338 LM makes a shitload of sense in an MG platform... even more so, IMHO, than in a precision rifle platform.

If manufactured in large quantities (which it would be if chambered in a bunch of MGs), .338LM wouldn't be that much more expensive than 7.62X51.... economy of scale FTW!
9/25/2013 9:45:03 AM EDT
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The LWMMG fires a 300 grain .338 caliber bullet and is capable of effective fire out to 1,700 meters, compared to the M240 round which is effective out to 1,100 meters.



Read more: http://kitup.military.com/2013/09/gds-long-range-machine-gun.html#ixzz2fvQoMHbn

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Max effective range for the 240 is 1800 meters.

Not sure where that information comes from, but I would guess 150gr 7.62x151 out of a 24 in barrel would become subsonic around 1000 meters.



 
9/25/2013 9:45:59 AM EDT
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Can you imagine shooting it while using match ammo?
9/25/2013 9:47:50 AM EDT
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Yes, a 1911A1 in .50BMG..


A 50 BMG 1911A1 is.... mindblowing.
9/25/2013 9:51:40 AM EDT
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This.

And the 338 LM would be much cheaper and more practical than 50 BMG.
9/25/2013 9:57:13 AM EDT
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.
9/25/2013 10:04:13 AM EDT
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You're leaving out the MG itself though.  The M2 is a big mutha... the .338LM can be squeezed into a much, much more portable platform.  

9/25/2013 10:05:07 AM EDT
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Sometimes weight savings are more important that cost savings.


Light weight is expensive.


9/25/2013 10:05:51 AM EDT
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In before Sylvan
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He's right. The last thread we had on it was a great thread filled with intelligent and experienced discourse. This thread on the other hand...
9/25/2013 10:08:53 AM EDT
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That sucker looks heavy.
9/25/2013 10:11:16 AM EDT
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More range for less weight.

right now the Taliban and NATO forces are equal in the MG department as far as range.  pkm and 240 even out.

this gives me "stand off" 600m where I can shoot him and he can't shoot me.

this is the shit that sells itself.

and I don't have to resupply or carry 50 cal to do it.
9/25/2013 10:11:47 AM EDT
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you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?
9/25/2013 10:12:47 AM EDT
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its a weapon that can do alot more damage to a structure or vehicle than 7.62x51 but it doesn't weigh 120 lbs. the problem with 50s is they aren't portable and every time someone tries to build a light weight one, the 50 rounds tears it up, they don't last. this is a good compromise.
9/25/2013 10:15:21 AM EDT
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A 50 BMG 1911A1 is.... mindblowing.




Not to derail, but where the fuck is the build thread on this??!?!?!?!

 
9/25/2013 10:15:45 AM EDT
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.


you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?

An M2 and its tripod is, what, 90-100lbs?
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And the 338 LM would be much cheaper and more practical than 50 BMG.


This.

And tt should become cheaper for the civilian market also, if adapted.
9/25/2013 10:16:38 AM EDT
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you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?

An M2 and its tripod is, what, 90-100lbs?

that's without the tripod.
and no ammo
9/25/2013 10:16:42 AM EDT
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.
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The two phrases 'Cost savings' and 'Machine Gun' dont really belong in the same sentence to begin with



 
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you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?


Not in A-stan, but the 7.62 does fine.......after that you pull out sniper gear/air support or artillery.  This is a novelty being promoted by gun enthusiasts......nothing more
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And the 338 LM would be much cheaper and more practical than 50 BMG.




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And tt should become cheaper for the civilian market also, if adapted.


Cool.



I'll start brainstorming an AR10 in 338 Normag
 
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.
The two phrases 'Cost savings' and 'Machine Gun' dont really belong in the same sentence to begin with
 


Only when the Army is getting trigger time........those pogues shoot at nothing A LOT
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.


you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?

An M2 and its tripod is, what, 90-100lbs?

that's without the tripod.
and no ammo

Wait, all of a sudden, ARFCOM's "LOL work out more you faggit" don't work?

I'm disappoint
9/25/2013 10:20:47 AM EDT
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.


you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?


Not in A-stan, but the 7.62 does fine.......after that you pull out sniper gear/air support or artillery.  This is a novelty being promoted by gun enthusiasts......nothing more


lulz.

so where did you hump a 240?
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And the 338 LM would be much cheaper and more practical than 50 BMG.


This.

And tt should become cheaper for the civilian market also, if adapted.


Mass produced 338LM would be awesome even if it was 2MOA ammo like most M80 equivalent.  

300 grains and supersonic past 1200 meters?  
9/25/2013 10:21:44 AM EDT
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More wallop!
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.


you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?


Not in A-stan, but the 7.62 does fine.......after that you pull out sniper gear/air support or artillery.  This is a novelty being promoted by gun enthusiasts......nothing more


lulz.

so where did you hump a 240?


You are trying hard bro..........If I had the choice my gunner would have a 50 over this.  You know we are mechanized.  If you are truly light infantry you aren't lugging this (ETA this being the 338 machine gun) anyway.  
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you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?

An M2 and its tripod is, what, 90-100lbs?

that's without the tripod.
and no ammo


the entire system without ammo is 128 lbs.

gun reciever is 62, tripod is 44, barrel is 22. this does not count the pintle and t & e
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You are trying hard bro..........If I had the choice my gunner would have a 50 over this.  You know we are mechanized.  If you are truly light infantry you aren't lugging this (ETA this being the 338 machine gun) anyway.  
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.


you ever humped an mg in Afghanistan?


Not in A-stan, but the 7.62 does fine.......after that you pull out sniper gear/air support or artillery.  This is a novelty being promoted by gun enthusiasts......nothing more


lulz.

so where did you hump a 240?


You are trying hard bro..........If I had the choice my gunner would have a 50 over this.  You know we are mechanized.  If you are truly light infantry you aren't lugging this (ETA this being the 338 machine gun) anyway.  


This is gonna be fun.
9/25/2013 10:28:23 AM EDT
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.  The 338 Lapua is great b/c it's more accurate then a 50 BMG.  I'm all for continuing to develop our sniping off it.    In a hitt'em long and far machine gun the 50 is superior.  7.62 NATO to 50 BMG serves us well.  When talking about cost savings and machine guns you should never include the 338.
The two phrases 'Cost savings' and 'Machine Gun' dont really belong in the same sentence to begin with

 




Only when the Army is getting trigger time........those pogues shoot at nothing A LOT

I'd rather give them the money than LaDronda and her 87 crotch fruit



 
9/25/2013 10:28:25 AM EDT
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Did they finally put a flash suppressor on it?

Smith Enterprises makes a Vortex for .338 that should work with this thing, if anyone at GD needs an idea.

Definitely want a flash suppressor on that thing. .338 Norma Mag at night cyclic with a plain muzzle is going to be a fucking flamethrower.

Or maybe that's the idea?


Anyway, I find that gun to be cool as hell, and fully support its fielding.
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