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9/23/2013 10:21:44 AM EDT
Anyone have any recommendation for any cheap night vision devices?  Around $100-300.  Its for my son to play in the woods.   I do not need any PVS 7s or PVS 14s nor do I have that much money to spend on a kids toy.  

Thanks
9/23/2013 10:23:27 AM EDT
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$300?

Just get a pair of green sunglasses.

9/23/2013 10:24:20 AM EDT
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That budget is not even close.
9/23/2013 10:24:20 AM EDT
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You should probably post this question here unless you want 90% off your answers to be smart ass responses.
9/23/2013 10:24:37 AM EDT
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1. Go here http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_6/18_Night_Vision.html
2. Read
3. ????
4. Profit

Seriously though, cheap and night vision do not go hand in hand.  That amount of $ will not get you anything usable.  You are better of getting a really nice light for that $.
9/23/2013 10:27:06 AM EDT
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$300?

Just get a pair of green sunglasses badass flashlight.

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Any "NOD" you could get for that price would be a waste of circuitry.
9/23/2013 10:27:46 AM EDT
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Huge +1
9/23/2013 10:28:32 AM EDT
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With that budget?

9/23/2013 10:36:35 AM EDT
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Thanks, I couldnt find the Night vision folder.  I am thinking of getting it just to let my kids play infantryman.  I don't want to give them my pair of PVS 14s.
9/23/2013 10:41:16 AM EDT
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I know, I know, should be in a tech forum and all but I spit Coke on my keyboard thanks to you.
9/23/2013 10:41:36 AM EDT
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I began that rout in the cheap end of the pool and (very quickly) returned the cheap shit and worked an extra year at my 2nd job after paying for my kid's school.

That gave me the 6-K for totally rebuilt, PVS-7's and $3-K Thermals.

Worth every f-king minute!

9/23/2013 10:43:22 AM EDT
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At 90% off he might be able to get something for $300.

9/23/2013 10:45:07 AM EDT
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9/23/2013 10:46:14 AM EDT
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I began that rout in the cheap end of the pool and (very quickly) returned the cheap shit and worked an extra year at my 2nd job after paying for my kid's school.

That gave me the 6-K for totally rebuilt, PVS-7's and $3-K Thermals.

Worth every f-king minute!

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$3k for thermals?  What and where?
9/23/2013 10:46:21 AM EDT
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Thanks, I couldnt find the Night vision folder.  I am thinking of getting it just to let my kids play infantryman.  I don't want to give them my pair of PVS 14s.
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In the OP you said you didn't need PVS-7's or 14's, and couldn't afford them. Now you suddenly own a pair of PVS-14's?
9/23/2013 10:47:35 AM EDT
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If you've got 14s, let your kids use them, just make sure they are secured to the helmet.  If the military can't fuck them up that easily, your kids won't either.
9/23/2013 10:48:50 AM EDT
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Get yourself a quality light. Any "NVD" even relevantly close to that amount is gonna be a waste of money
9/23/2013 10:50:29 AM EDT
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You could probably find the call of duty 4 special edition NVG's on ebay.
9/23/2013 10:50:30 AM EDT
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I bought a 200 pair of russian gen 1 NVD's.  they are an interesting toy but not too useful.  for that money honestly, get a few really good flashlights.
I hate to say that but I'm a cheap bastard and want good stuff cheap. in this case though, there is not much functional NV gear for 200 bucks.  

I finally saved up and bought gen3 and those are actually useful.
9/23/2013 10:51:14 AM EDT
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Thanks, I couldnt find the Night vision folder.  I am thinking of getting it just to let my kids play infantryman.  I don't want to give them my pair of PVS 14s.




In the OP you said you didn't need PVS-7's or 14's, and couldn't afford them. Now you suddenly own a pair of PVS-14's?


Yeah, I'm confused too.  



 
9/23/2013 10:53:18 AM EDT
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I said i didn't need a pair of PVS 14s.  I just wanted something cheap of the kids to play around with.  He is 10.  I have seen plenty of soldiers destroy their PVS 14s at night.  You will be surprised what an infantryman can do just walking around at night in the woods.
9/23/2013 10:54:40 AM EDT
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I have my money tied up in other projects.  I don't want to spend 4 grand for a kids toy.
9/23/2013 10:55:02 AM EDT
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Nope. I got into NV with a D-300 milspec unit, which many consider the bottom line of getting into night vision. It's nice for Gen 2+; but the limitations of it start showing once a lack of moonlight or a lot of cloud cover start blocking ambient starlight and moonlight. Then you need a way to mount it to your noggin.

Just the D-300 used cost me $750; not counting the NOROTOS mount, then the J-arm mount. Thankfully I had a PASGT helmet laying around, so I didn't have to spend any money on that.
9/23/2013 11:25:26 AM EDT
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Nope. I got into NV with a D-300 milspec unit, which many consider the bottom line of getting into night vision. It's nice for Gen 2+; but the limitations of it start showing once a lack of moonlight or a lot of cloud cover start blocking ambient starlight and moonlight. Then you need a way to mount it to your noggin.

Just the D-300 used cost me $750; not counting the NOROTOS mount, then the J-arm mount. Thankfully I had a PASGT helmet laying around, so I didn't have to spend any money on that.
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Won't an IR torch really help that 2+ shine?
9/23/2013 12:42:33 PM EDT
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Won't an IR torch really help that 2+ shine?
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Nope. I got into NV with a D-300 milspec unit, which many consider the bottom line of getting into night vision. It's nice for Gen 2+; but the limitations of it start showing once a lack of moonlight or a lot of cloud cover start blocking ambient starlight and moonlight. Then you need a way to mount it to your noggin.

Just the D-300 used cost me $750; not counting the NOROTOS mount, then the J-arm mount. Thankfully I had a PASGT helmet laying around, so I didn't have to spend any money on that.


Won't an IR torch really help that 2+ shine?


It makes a gen 3 fucking awesome.  Like daytime.
9/23/2013 12:48:50 PM EDT
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xgen digital mono, about $110 with the arfcom discount at optics planet. there have been a few threads and reviews on it. the concensus is that commercial digital is toy grade, and of those available the xgen was the best value. about on par with gen 1 nv.

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9/23/2013 12:53:46 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_18/359614_DIY_Cascade_Tube_Thread___.html Check this out, I built one for about $200, but its almost as big as a roll of paper towels, and weighs about 4 pounds. He's definitely not gonna be able to wear it on his head.
9/23/2013 1:18:35 PM EDT
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My wife bought me a $100 Sightron gen1 monocular as a toy. Honestly, I'm really impressed with it and would consider their cheap goggles for your son
9/23/2013 1:20:56 PM EDT
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That's going to be your best bet for a $100. Might be less, if you buy used.
9/23/2013 1:23:13 PM EDT
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Edit: looks like OP changed his wording to clarify he was looking for a toy for his kid.

Guys I think he's just looking for a toy that works similarly to a camcorder or similar to the NVGs that came with the Modern Warfare 2 deluxe edition. Context. Jesus Christ. This is like a guy asking for advice on a power wheels car for his kid and you guys saying anything less than a REAL jeep is a waste.

9/23/2013 1:24:51 PM EDT
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That's going to be your best bet for a $100. Might be less, if you buy used.
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If you're looking for something just for the kids to play with, those are awesome.

Eta: Jakks eyeclopse is another toy nvg that I got my kid & he loves it.
9/23/2013 1:34:07 PM EDT
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Guys I think he's just looking for a toy that works similarly to a camcorder or similar to the NVGs that came with the Modern Warfare 2 deluxe edition. Context. Jesus Christ. This is like a guy asking for advice on a power wheels car for his kid and you guys saying anything less than a REAL jeep is a waste.

http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/article/104/1043319/modern-warfare-2-prestige-edition-night-vision-goggles-20091109024253554-000.jpg
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I have a real Jeep.  Just buy the big wheel.
9/23/2013 1:39:01 PM EDT
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Guys I think he's just looking for a toy that works similarly to a camcorder or similar to the NVGs that came with the Modern Warfare 2 deluxe edition. Context. Jesus Christ. This is like a guy asking for advice on a power wheels car for his kid and you guys saying anything less than a REAL jeep is a waste.

http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/article/104/1043319/modern-warfare-2-prestige-edition-night-vision-goggles-20091109024253554-000.jpg
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He edited the op and added "for my son to play in the woods"

And " kids toy."

9/23/2013 1:39:02 PM EDT
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Anyone have any recommendation for any cheap night vision devices?  Around $100-300.  
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I want a flying unicorn.
9/23/2013 1:45:52 PM EDT
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Anyone have any recommendation for any cheap night vision devices? Around $100-300.  Its for my son to play in the woods.   I do not need any PVS 7s or PVS 14s nor do I have that much money to spend on a kids toy.  

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No.  No, I don't.
9/23/2013 1:54:59 PM EDT
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$3k for thermals?  What and where?
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I began that rout in the cheap end of the pool and (very quickly) returned the cheap shit and worked an extra year at my 2nd job after paying for my kid's school.



That gave me the 6-K for totally rebuilt, PVS-7's and $3-K Thermals.



Worth every f-king minute!





$3k for thermals?  What and where?


Flir PS32 anywhere.





 
9/23/2013 2:10:11 PM EDT
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Guys I think he's just looking for a toy that works similarly to a camcorder or similar to the NVGs that came with the Modern Warfare 2 deluxe edition. Context. Jesus Christ. This is like a guy asking for advice on a power wheels car for his kid and you guys saying anything less than a REAL jeep is a waste.
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Guys I think he's just looking for a toy that works similarly to a camcorder or similar to the NVGs that came with the Modern Warfare 2 deluxe edition. Context. Jesus Christ. This is like a guy asking for advice on a power wheels car for his kid and you guys saying anything less than a REAL jeep is a waste.


This is what the pre-edit OP asked

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Anyone have any recommendation for any cheap night vision devices?  Around $100-300.  


so we answered.
9/23/2013 2:12:11 PM EDT
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That budget is not even close.
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9/23/2013 2:13:33 PM EDT
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Someone posted a set of NVGS with a Skull mount for his kid that he paid under 300. Used em chasing fireflies or something.

Here they are

http://www.hayneedle.com/sale/yukonnvmt1x24gogglewithheadgearkit.cfm?source=pla&tid=YAO019&adtype=pla&kw=&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=YAO019&gclid=COSwmMHF4rkCFTFo7AodPBcARQ
9/23/2013 2:13:44 PM EDT
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You could probably find the call of duty 4 special edition NVG's on ebay.
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In the past Toys R us and Walmart carry cheap digital stuff around Christmas.
Would be the way to go, less than $100 for them.
9/23/2013 2:18:10 PM EDT
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Couldn't an IR camera and an IR light be rigged up to a eyepiece?

Those guys that make the airgun vids shoot them at night with a IR camera setup.
9/23/2013 2:20:23 PM EDT
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Again I see most in GD didn't read the post.
He said for his kid, not for the OP to use. Why the heck would he spend $1K-3k for a toy for his kid to play GI Joe with unless he's got crazy money
9/23/2013 2:21:06 PM EDT
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Nope. I got into NV with a D-300 milspec unit, which many consider the bottom line of getting into night vision. It's nice for Gen 2+; but the limitations of it start showing once a lack of moonlight or a lot of cloud cover start blocking ambient starlight and moonlight. Then you need a way to mount it to your noggin.



Just the D-300 used cost me $750; not counting the NOROTOS mount, then the J-arm mount. Thankfully I had a PASGT helmet laying around, so I didn't have to spend any money on that.




Won't an IR torch really help that 2+ shine?




It makes a gen 3 fucking awesome.  Like daytime.
If I could hunt at night, I would own a PVS14. We have them at work and, man, they're tits.



 
9/23/2013 2:28:02 PM EDT
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Any "NOD" you could get for that price would be a waste of circuitry.
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$300?

Just get a pair of green sunglasses badass flashlight.



Any "NOD" you could get for that price would be a waste of circuitry.



Depends.

I've got a gen 2 Russian hand held spotting type scope/not a weapon scope.. I bought the thing at Wal-Mart about 10 years ago and it's been solid as a rock and works pretty damn good for what it is.

It has an IR illuminator and is a lot better than what I read about in some of these posts.
9/23/2013 2:28:48 PM EDT
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Again I see most in GD didn't read the post.
He said for his kid, not for the OP to use. Why the heck would he spend $1K-3k for a toy for his kid to play GI Joe with unless he's got crazy money
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Again, I see someone didn't read the thread before posting.
9/23/2013 2:29:54 PM EDT
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Oh..  and they were about $250 back then.

INHO, it is every bit as good as the NVG's my NG unit had at the time.
9/23/2013 2:31:04 PM EDT
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These are good.

9/23/2013 2:33:39 PM EDT
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http://www.nightowloptics.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=25:xgenpro-night-vision&Itemid=4

They all seem to be GEN-1 now but mine is GEN-2 and is made a bit differently but is basically the same.

9/23/2013 2:35:59 PM EDT
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Go on Craigslist and get a set of the modern warfare nv goggles.  Great for the price and he will think they look cool.  Never pay more than 100$ for gen1 no matter who made it, because its all crap compared to gen2 and up.
9/23/2013 2:43:11 PM EDT
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I had a 1x night owl that used 123 batteries. I liked it.
9/23/2013 3:15:28 PM EDT
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My son has a set of these ($30-50 depending on coupons and sales): LINK

NOT durable, but fun!  You do NOT have depth perception, have to manually focus, and visibility is very dependent on your IR projectors but they are fun.  I can read a book in a dark room with them on, but walking without depth perception (like in the woods or on stairs) takes some practice.
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