Posted: 9/8/2013 9:14:57 PM EDT
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So I was thinking...
After a certain amount of time in any established (democratic/republican) government people figure out how to use the system to advance themselves as opposed to those whom they are supposed to represent. Eventually leading to outright tyranny. Our system is currently being used as a type of band aid lawmaking system where a problem arises (or is outright manufactured) and we throw a law at it and some bureaucrats to "fix" the problem. Essentially we become overburdened in rules and regulations or what have you. Clearly, this is leading to tyranny. So here is an idea that I think could work; we add a constitutional amendment to... 1. Eliminate all laws and previous constitutional amendments outside of the bill of rights every sixty years (This amendment would become the 11th Amdendment) a. This would be enacted in its entirety immediately upon ratification. b. This amendment is essentially a built in reset button. 2. Ban all currently "serving" elected and or appointed State and Federal employees from ever holding office again. Lets be honest, if the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches shut down for a few weeks until new people could be elected do you really think society would fucking collapse? No it would not... 3. All 50 states (or however many there are at the current 60 year end period) would use their respective constitutions as written when originally ratified. 4. Weapons of a chemical, biological, or radiological type are prohibited from civilian possession. This issue may be one of the few that could arise including foreign policy issues that would actually need clear definitions. 5. U.S. foreign policy is a subject I'm not sure how it would be handled. With these ideas in place people might (nanny-state pussies anyway) argue that slavery or civil rights issues might arise, however people aren't going to abide by outright immoral behavior given what would be to some a free for all. After all, I think most people don't have a clue what real freedom is (myself included) and would be unsure of how to respond when their actions entirely define who they would be in this new and improved system. Okay let's see your ideas. 
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I get where you're coming from, but it would be chaos.
There would have to be a massive rebuild every sixty years. And only white male property owners would able to vote on these rebuilds. That'll go over well. And with all laws nullified there would be massive crime in the interregnum. It sure would be interesting though! |
| I thought about something like this before. Pass an amendment that requires that every law on the books dealing with criminal behavior of citizens be automatically abolished if it fails to result in at least one legitimate conviction within a 12 month period. The law also cannot be re-established within a 12 month period after being abolished. |
| Another amendment that we need is the establishment of a citizen veto vote for any law that is signed into law at any level of government. If they can get signatures of 10% of registered voters who live under the law then there is a special voting session in order to either abolish or maintain the law. |
| The abundance of laws is the effect, not the cause. When the people are this apathetic or corrupt the politicians that get elected represent that directly. Have to change the attitude of the people to have lasting change. Kind of like what the socialists have been doing for quite awhile. That right there shows you it works. |
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Quoted: This is the Truth. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: To quote DK "lol" No shit... This is why the idea of a full-blown constitutional convention terrifies me. This is the Truth. Go in with the intention of draining the swamp, come out with Free Everything for Everyone, an Emperor, and the DMV handling all firearm transactions. ETA: I would however like to see sunsets applied to all laws. That way we can pin down politicians for voting FOR shitty laws and possibly chase some out of existence. |
| One amendment that would put us on the correct course once more is restricting voting rights to TAXPAYERS, as it was originally intended. They tried to fix it, but focused on the wrong thing [white, male, property owners]. White male property owners were the only ones taxed, and we could have lasted indefinitely if we had restricted the right to vote to taxpayers, instead of opening it to all with our incorrect focus. |
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One amendment that would put us on the correct course once more is restricting voting rights to TAXPAYERS, as it was originally intended. They tried to fix it, but focused on the wrong thing [white, male, property owners]. White male property owners were the only ones taxed, and we could have lasted indefinitely if we had restricted the right to vote to taxpayers, instead of opening it to all with our incorrect focus. I agree with that. But the catch is sales tax, gasoline tax, all other state and local taxes. Property taxes. Transportation authority taxes. Community college taxes. Everyone pays those at one level or another. Robert A. Heinlein recognized the problem of "low information" voters decades ago and had some good ideas about addressing the issue. Of course, he's called a fascist now... 
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Well, real quick...................
WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF THE FEDS TO TELL ME HOW TO RUN MY STATE? The OP's point about my State Constitution has to be as when it was ratified, that my State elected officials have to be put out of a job.............................is none of Washington's business. __________________________________________________________________________ ("That's none of your business."--Amber, (w,stte), "The Running Man") |
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Well, real quick................... WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF THE FEDS TO TELL ME HOW TO RUN MY STATE? The OP's point about my State Constitution has to be as when it was ratified, that my State elected officials have to be put out of a job.............................is none of Washington's business. __________________________________________________________________________ ("That's none of your business."--Amber, (w,stte), "The Running Man") I agree, but the 10th amendment has been long nullified by the commerce clause. Or so they claim and assert. 
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The Federal Gov't is corrupt beyond redemption.
The solution is the Tenth Amendment and Nullification. We must, each and every one of us, become active at the state and local level. |
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No shit... This is why the idea of a full-blown constitutional convention terrifies me. Quoted:
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To quote DK "lol" No shit... This is why the idea of a full-blown constitutional convention terrifies me. Agree. Today's Congress will eliminate the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. |