Posted: 9/2/2013 7:57:59 PM EDT
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Today while dove hunting my 870 got stuck in battery. Hard slam on the ground while holding slide broke it free. Didn't happen again but Im curious what might have caused it. Breaking down and cleaning it all up for tomorrow just to be sure but it wasn't dirty or anything.Anyone got an idea wtf happened? |
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Remington has been having issues with tight chambers for the past few years. I've had about a dozen over 3-4 years come through my shop that needed to go back to Remington to have the chambered re-cut because it was out of spec.
Sometimes a solid cleaning with a brush will help loosen it up. |
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Yep.
Cheap rounds get stuck in my 870s chamber. Can't shoot the cheap bulk packs from w/m. Defensive loads... Buckshot and slugs work fine. When i shoot clays I have to get the high end loads... Yeah, polish the chamber is the answer... Or... If you are like me and think you will screw it up... Buy the pricey bird shot... When I do have to shoot the cheap stuff, If I wait 10 seconds, it will extract just fine... Seriously. Maybe I should just polish the chamber... |
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El Cheapo Winchester birdshot jammed mine up like that. I think they were "SuperSpeed" rounds. Nothing else has ever done it to me.
Apparently, not an isolated incident. I did some digging, and found multiple tales of 870s choking on cheaper Winchester shells. Supposedly, they're often out of spec 
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El Cheapo Winchester birdshot jammed mine up like that. I think they were "SuperSpeed" rounds. Nothing else has ever done it to me. Apparently, not an isolated incident. I did some digging, and found multiple tales of 870s choking on cheaper Winchester shells. Supposedly, they're often out of spec yup |
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself.
Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. |
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Quoted: yup Quoted: Quoted: El Cheapo Winchester birdshot jammed mine up like that. I think they were "SuperSpeed" rounds. Nothing else has ever done it to me. Apparently, not an isolated incident. I did some digging, and found multiple tales of 870s choking on cheaper Winchester shells. Supposedly, they're often out of spec yup get a customer in couple times a month with this problem the cheaper federal bulk stuff from walmart does the same thing in some guns |
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Quoted: Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. |
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. 13th post from a 13er fucking classic when you herp never forget to derp 
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. WTF?
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Quoted: Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever.  |
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. 
Give us a full report on the condition of the interior of your lower digestive tract when you get back. |
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. Yeh because all those police departments that have/and do issue 870s must be doing it wrong.... 
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. You sir are way out in the wrong field. Nothing is perfect, but the M870 is as about retard proof as it gets. |
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. Such wisdom, care to share more. |
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Quoted: Such wisdom, care to share more. Quoted: Quoted: Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. Such wisdom, care to share more. |
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Yeah... Um...
I have indeed had trouble with cheap bulks backs from wal-mart in my 870... Never had an issue with the higher-end stuff. Never had an issue with defensive loads. Trust my life, and the lives of my loved ones to my 870 loaded with defensive loads... Perfect? Not in every situation. But it is 100% trusted in my home... |
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Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. Well, bless your heart.. If it's not too much to ask, would you mind describing how you came to be such an SME? I don't mind learning when I'm wrong; I just won't take your unsubstantiated word to put my 870P under the bandsaw. |
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Well, I bought an 870 express 12-guage last summer from Wal-Mart. I have only shot it a few times and only used Federal Police Tactical 00 buckshot and Hornady TAP 00 buckshot. Both of these have worked flawlessly.
I AM NOT the world's authority on shotguns but it sounds like an ammo-based problem to me. The youtube link showing the polishing of the shell chamber seems a good idea to me. IF I ever have any problem of this type, I will get out the dremel and a cotton polishing pad and CAREFULLY do this. |
| This is a common 870 problem. In the late 90's I witnessed the purchase of a youth model 20 ga that did the same thing but on every shot. The gun was brought back to the store and the purchaser was told to try higher grade ammo. The higher grade ammo did the same thing but got stuck to the point of not being able to eject the shell at all. The gun was then brought back to the shop with a spent shell still lodged in the chamber. The shop did the right thing and exchanged the gun on the spot. Unfortunately the new gun had the exact same problem and the shop ended up giving the purchaser (a family member of mine) a full refund. I have a 12ga 870 that hangs up every 1 in 30 shells but I just deal with it. |
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I have an Express from the late eighties that has never, never or should I say never, mis-fed, locked up or had a failure to eject.
This shotgun has a body count higher than Saddam and keeps going. I even fell in a river with it once and just a little while later shot a pig in the face with it from 10 feet away. |
| When the extractor pulls on the rim, it cocks the shell slightly. Just outside the chamber is a burr or a ridge, where that cocking of the shell pushes the side opposite of the extractor into a groove before the ridge. Smooth all that out and you won't have to mortar your shotgun anymore. I saw this over at shotgunworld.com. |
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Quoted: When the extractor pulls on the rim, it cocks the shell slightly. Just outside the chamber is a burr or a ridge, where that cocking of the shell pushes the side opposite of the extractor into a groove before the ridge. Smooth all that out and you won't have to mortar your shotgun anymore. I saw this over at shotgunworld.com. |
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Sometimes after multiple shots or when the gun heats up, rounds (especially cheap-ass birdshot) it will freeze your slide forward and you have to grab the pump and beat the shit out of the stock to get the gun to unjam itself. Try more lube. While an 870 is a decent hunting arm that stands up to a low to moderate amount of abuse or usage before failure, I'm really hoping that you're not relying on one for self-defense. Much like 1911s, no matter how much your 870 costs---whether it's a hunting or decked out as a defensive arm, they all fail in the same places. Simply put: Don't trust your life to one. Ever. RL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/matrix250/media/prepareyouranus.png.html]  [/URL]
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