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Posted: 9/2/2013 7:55:14 PM EDT
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Who carries a BUG?
What is your primary and secondary carry pieces? |
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When I was taking my CCW class here in NV, I brought my S&W 1911 with me to use to qualify. I also brought a SIG P226, just in case. Now, that 1911 had NEVER had a single hiccup. Ran perfectly, every time. I go to take my first shot of the day...click. Eject round, VERY light strike on the primer. Tried the next round. Click. And so on, for five or six rounds. Put it aside, and finished the day with the SIG. When I got home, I REALLY wanted to know what'd made my old reliable .45 choke, so I took it all the way down, and found out, and then realized why. A while previous to that, I'd done something stupid and, with one of those plastic "dry fire" barrels installed, had dropped the slide into battery. I wasn't thinking, and that plastic didn't stand up to the stress of the slide dropping home. It took me quite a while to get the jammed up mess free, get the gun cleaned up, oiled, and reassembled. What I hadn't noticed, because I didn't do the "pencil trick", was that the lever that deactivates the FP safety was slightly bent. It moved the safety, but not enough for free travel of the pin, so I got light strikes. That "click" was VERY loud to my ears, just at the range. I can't imagine how loud it'd have been if I'd needed the gun to save my life, even moreso if I didn't have a back up. Now, while that all could have been avoided by me not being dumb and jamming it up in the first place, or by more carefully examining the inner workings afterwords, I very clearly got the point that mechanical things fail, and you may be totally unaware until you need it. So, yes, BUG. |
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Taurus PT111 Millenium Pro 9mm backup, also with one extra magazine. Those little Mil Pros are nifty little inexpensive pistols. I may buy one someday..... I am considering a S&W Model 60 for a BUG. How do y'all think carrying two weapons would play out in front of a jury, if it came to that? |
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Quoted: When I was taking my CCW class here in NV, I brought my S&W 1911 with me to use to qualify. I also brought a SIG P226, just in case. Now, that 1911 had NEVER had a single hiccup. Ran perfectly, every time. I go to take my first shot of the day...click. Eject round, VERY light strike on the primer. Tried the next round. Click. And so on, for five or six rounds. Put it aside, and finished the day with the SIG. When I got home, I REALLY wanted to know what'd made my old reliable .45 choke, so I took it all the way down, and found out, and then realized why. A while previous to that, I'd done something stupid and, with one of those plastic "dry fire" barrels installed, had dropped the slide into battery. I wasn't thinking, and that plastic didn't stand up to the stress of the slide dropping home. It took me quite a while to get the jammed up mess free, get the gun cleaned up, oiled, and reassembled. What I hadn't noticed, because I didn't do the "pencil trick", was that the lever that deactivates the FP safety was slightly bent. It moved the safety, but not enough for free travel of the pin, so I got light strikes. That "click" was VERY loud to my ears, just at the range. I can't imagine how loud it'd have been if I'd needed the gun to save my life, even moreso if I didn't have a back up. Now, while that all could have been avoided by me not being dumb and jamming it up in the first place, or by more carefully examining the inner workings afterwords, I very clearly got the point that mechanical things fail, and you may be totally unaware until you need it. So, yes, BUG. Are 1911s really worth all the bullshit? I mean, really? I know some of you will say yes but come on. |
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Quoted: Are 1911s really worth all the bullshit? I mean, really? I know some of you will say yes but come on. Quoted: Quoted: When I was taking my CCW class here in NV, I brought my S&W 1911 with me to use to qualify. I also brought a SIG P226, just in case. Now, that 1911 had NEVER had a single hiccup. Ran perfectly, every time. I go to take my first shot of the day...click. Eject round, VERY light strike on the primer. Tried the next round. Click. And so on, for five or six rounds. Put it aside, and finished the day with the SIG. When I got home, I REALLY wanted to know what'd made my old reliable .45 choke, so I took it all the way down, and found out, and then realized why. A while previous to that, I'd done something stupid and, with one of those plastic "dry fire" barrels installed, had dropped the slide into battery. I wasn't thinking, and that plastic didn't stand up to the stress of the slide dropping home. It took me quite a while to get the jammed up mess free, get the gun cleaned up, oiled, and reassembled. What I hadn't noticed, because I didn't do the "pencil trick", was that the lever that deactivates the FP safety was slightly bent. It moved the safety, but not enough for free travel of the pin, so I got light strikes. That "click" was VERY loud to my ears, just at the range. I can't imagine how loud it'd have been if I'd needed the gun to save my life, even moreso if I didn't have a back up. Now, while that all could have been avoided by me not being dumb and jamming it up in the first place, or by more carefully examining the inner workings afterwords, I very clearly got the point that mechanical things fail, and you may be totally unaware until you need it. So, yes, BUG. Are 1911s really worth all the bullshit? I mean, really? I know some of you will say yes but come on. Are there some 1911s that need work to function right? Yes, but there are 1911s made by so many companies, of so many varied levels of QC and competence, that there's bound to be a LOT of bad apples in the overall bunch. If Glock clones were made by as many companies, there'd be a crapton of Glock clones misbehaving, too. I don't have anything against Glock, in fact I own 3 and I really dig the fact that you can carry a smaller BUG in the same caliber, but use the bigger magazines, if need be. I do like my 1911s, and I trust them as much as I'd trust any other competently built and reliable arm, with the added benefit that they're more comfortable in my hand and I'm more familiar with them. |
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Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason.  Quoted:
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If you are paranoid enough to carry two guns, perhaps you should just stay in the basement... Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason. If your job consists of confronting violent people on a regular basis, understood. If you're the average CWWer, no. |
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If your job consists of confronting violent people on a regular basis, understood. If you're the average CWWer, no. Quoted:
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If you are paranoid enough to carry two guns, perhaps you should just stay in the basement... Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason. If your job consists of confronting violent people on a regular basis, understood. If you're the average CWWer, no. You say that like violent people never confront the "average CWWer?" Like I said, there is more than one reason to carry a BUG. |
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Every time there's this sort of discussion someone always brings up the same thing. 'You carry a BUG/Extra Magazines/Knife/Flashlight?! Why are you so paranoid?'.
I carry a gun. That means I've accepted that bad things might happen that could lead to my death or my taking a life. I want to be as prepared for it gear/skill/mindset wise as I can. You being less so doesn't grant you any moral superiority. |
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Quoted: Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason. Quoted: Quoted: If you are paranoid enough to carry two guns, perhaps you should just stay in the basement... Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason. |
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Yeah, you were there when I heard that "click". Quoted:
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If you are paranoid enough to carry two guns, perhaps you should just stay in the basement... Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason. I remember that day. You make one of my points that GADeerHunter evidently doesn't get. |
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You'll all be dual wielding after they ban semi-autos. 
http://webspace.webring.com/people/fu/um_11747/stickemup.jpg I've always wondered what those revolvers were. As for BUGs, I carry a SW .38 J-framev to b/u my glock. ckmorley |
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I've always wondered what those revolvers were. As for BUGs, I carry a SW .38 J-framev to b/u my glock. ckmorley Quoted:
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You'll all be dual wielding after they ban semi-autos.
http://webspace.webring.com/people/fu/um_11747/stickemup.jpg I've always wondered what those revolvers were. As for BUGs, I carry a SW .38 J-framev to b/u my glock. ckmorley They look like they could be French or Russian military revolvers. |
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If you are paranoid enough to carry two guns, perhaps you should just stay in the basement... Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason. I wasn't here, but I'd suspect it was something to do with "one of the loudest noises you'll hear is a click when you were expecting a bang." Would you link the original thread? ETA: Nothing wrong or paranoid about carrying more than one gun. |
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Quoted: I wasn't here, but I'd suspect it was something to do with "one of the loudest noises you'll hear is a click when you were expecting a bang." Would you link the original thread? ETA: Nothing wrong or paranoid about carrying more than one gun. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you are paranoid enough to carry two guns, perhaps you should just stay in the basement... Evidently you don't grasp why "paranoid" people carry a BUG. There is more than one reason. I wasn't here, but I'd suspect it was something to do with "one of the loudest noises you'll hear is a click when you were expecting a bang." Would you link the original thread? ETA: Nothing wrong or paranoid about carrying more than one gun. I heartily recommend him, by the way, to anyone in NV. |
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Quoted: They look like they could be French or Russian military revolvers. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You'll all be dual wielding after they ban semi-autos. http://webspace.webring.com/people/fu/um_11747/stickemup.jpg I've always wondered what those revolvers were. As for BUGs, I carry a SW .38 J-framev to b/u my glock. ckmorley They look like they could be French or Russian military revolvers. Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873Rick O'Connell (Brendan Fraser) uses a pair of Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 revolvers throughout the film. During the fight in Hamunaptra, Jonathan (John Hannah) grabs them out of Rick's shoulder holsters and fires them at Imhotep's mummified priests. Rick often dual-wields them and has an unique way of loading them by spinning the cylinders. Maybe if the ejector rod has been pulled back and the loading gate is open, all he has to do is to point the loading gate downwards,using the force of gravity and cylinder spinning to make sure all cartridges are ejected.  |
