Posted: 8/14/2013 1:55:05 PM EDT
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Numerous people are saying its a Copperhead. I'm pretty sure it's a Northern Watersnake judging by the round pupils.
What say ye?? 
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Thanks for the help.
I just wanted to double check being the only one out of like 12 people calling it a water snake ( and still are) and I am no expert. Not my picture, but I'm sure no snakes were harmed in the taking of the photo. Which brings me to my next question: If you were bitten by that snake and went to the ER and got treated with copper head anti-venom what would happen, would you get sick? |
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Thanks for the help. I just wanted to double check being the only one out of like 12 people calling it a water snake ( and still are) and I am no expert. Not my picture, but I'm sure no snakes were harmed in the taking of the photo. Which brings me to my next question: If you were bitten by that snake and went to the ER and got treated with copper head anti-venom what would happen, would you get sick? I was treated with "Horse-Serum" years ago after being bitten twice by a Water Moccasin.....I thought the hives would never go away. Yeah, I got sick really bad because I'm apparently allergic to horse blood anti-bodies. (Two weeks in the ICU kind of sick). |
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Quoted: Thanks for the help. I just wanted to double check being the only one out of like 12 people calling it a water snake ( and still are) and I am no expert. Not my picture, but I'm sure no snakes were harmed in the taking of the photo. Which brings me to my next question: If you were bitten by that snake and went to the ER and got treated with copper head anti-venom what would happen, would you get sick? |
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looks like a water snake to me but you cant really see the head.
all these people judging the snake by the pattern are idiots, patterns adapt to environment and can change. coloration is something to watch for to help narrow it down but you should always pay 90% attention to the head and 10% to the pattern. look for a pit viper shaped head and venom glands to ID a copperhead, not because it looks "coppery" 
example: when you try to ID a deer as male or female when antlers are shed do you look for nubs on its head where antlers were, or the nut sack hanging down |
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all these people judging the snake by the pattern are idiots There are a lot that do.. I was talking with a co-worker who has been an outdoor enthusiast all his life (60 years in North and South GA) about ID'ing snakes in this area. He looked me square in the eye and said "if its brown, its poisonous"
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Which brings me to my next question: If you were bitten by that snake and went to the ER and got treated with copper head anti-venom what would happen, would you get sick? You would only be given anti venom if you are showing severe reaction to a copperhead bite. My 3 year old daughter was bitten on her foot 2 weeks ago by a copperhead. Luckily the snake only injected a very small amount of venom. The ER doc just keep close watch on her for 7 hours and then released her. He keep having her foot and leg checked for swelling and had blood drawn to check her liver function. Once the swelling started to come down and blood test were good she was released. No anti venom was given. All the swelling was gone after a day and she had a little bit of bruising in her foot that went away after less than a week. |
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You would only be given anti venom if you are showing severe reaction to a copperhead bite. My 3 year old daughter was bitten on her foot 2 weeks ago by a copperhead. Luckily the snake only injected a very small amount of venom. The ER doc just keep close watch on her for 7 hours and then released her. He keep having her foot and leg checked for swelling and had blood drawn to check her liver function. Once the swelling started to come down and blood test were good she was released. No anti venom was given. All the swelling was gone after a day and she had a little bit of bruising in her foot that went away after less than a week. Quoted:
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Which brings me to my next question: If you were bitten by that snake and went to the ER and got treated with copper head anti-venom what would happen, would you get sick? You would only be given anti venom if you are showing severe reaction to a copperhead bite. My 3 year old daughter was bitten on her foot 2 weeks ago by a copperhead. Luckily the snake only injected a very small amount of venom. The ER doc just keep close watch on her for 7 hours and then released her. He keep having her foot and leg checked for swelling and had blood drawn to check her liver function. Once the swelling started to come down and blood test were good she was released. No anti venom was given. All the swelling was gone after a day and she had a little bit of bruising in her foot that went away after less than a week. That's good to hear, glad your daughter is ok! |
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looks like a water snake to me but you cant really see the head. all these people judging the snake by the pattern are idiots, patterns adapt to environment and can change. coloration is something to watch for to help narrow it down but you should always pay 90% attention to the head and 10% to the pattern. look for a pit viper shaped head and venom glands to ID a copperhead, not because it looks "coppery"
example: when you try to ID a deer as male or female when antlers are shed do you look for nubs on its head where antlers were, or the nut sack hanging down Dr .Sean Bush 
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You would only be given anti venom if you are showing severe reaction to a copperhead bite. My 3 year old daughter was bitten on her foot 2 weeks ago by a copperhead. Luckily the snake only injected a very small amount of venom. The ER doc just keep close watch on her for 7 hours and then released her. He keep having her foot and leg checked for swelling and had blood drawn to check her liver function. Once the swelling started to come down and blood test were good she was released. No anti venom was given. All the swelling was gone after a day and she had a little bit of bruising in her foot that went away after less than a week. Quoted:
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Which brings me to my next question: If you were bitten by that snake and went to the ER and got treated with copper head anti-venom what would happen, would you get sick? You would only be given anti venom if you are showing severe reaction to a copperhead bite. My 3 year old daughter was bitten on her foot 2 weeks ago by a copperhead. Luckily the snake only injected a very small amount of venom. The ER doc just keep close watch on her for 7 hours and then released her. He keep having her foot and leg checked for swelling and had blood drawn to check her liver function. Once the swelling started to come down and blood test were good she was released. No anti venom was given. All the swelling was gone after a day and she had a little bit of bruising in her foot that went away after less than a week. I would have to have been treated for heart failure!  . Glad she is ok!
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There are a lot that do.. I was talking with a co-worker who has been an outdoor enthusiast all his life (60 years in North and South GA) about ID'ing snakes in this area. He looked me square in the eye and said "if its brown, its poisonous"
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all these people judging the snake by the pattern are idiots There are a lot that do.. I was talking with a co-worker who has been an outdoor enthusiast all his life (60 years in North and South GA) about ID'ing snakes in this area. He looked me square in the eye and said "if its brown, its poisonous"
If you actually know what a snake's pattern looks like, then you can id by pattern 99% of the time. Finding a snake patterned aberrantly enough that it looks like something else is rare. If you think that all brown snakes with bands or blotches are copperheads, then its not that pattern isn't an accurate identification feature, you just don't know what pattern differences to look for. It would probably be harder and less reliable for a person unfamiliar with snakes to try and judge head shape difference between a copperhead and a watersnake, than it would be to learn what the patterns are. One pretty simple rule is that usually works is that the dark saddles on copperheads are narrow at the top (dorsal) of the snake and get wider towards the bottom. Northern Watersnake bands are wider across the top of the back and they often have squarish blotches. |
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Quoted: looks like a water snake to me but you cant really see the head. all these people judging the snake by the pattern are idiots, patterns adapt to environment and can change. coloration is something to watch for to help narrow it down but you should always pay 90% attention to the head and 10% to the pattern. look for a pit viper shaped head and venom glands to ID a copperhead, not because it looks "coppery" example: when you try to ID a deer as male or female when antlers are shed do you look for nubs on its head where antlers were, or the nut sack hanging down |
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I would have to have been treated for heart failure! . Glad she is ok!Quoted:
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Which brings me to my next question: If you were bitten by that snake and went to the ER and got treated with copper head anti-venom what would happen, would you get sick? You would only be given anti venom if you are showing severe reaction to a copperhead bite. My 3 year old daughter was bitten on her foot 2 weeks ago by a copperhead. Luckily the snake only injected a very small amount of venom. The ER doc just keep close watch on her for 7 hours and then released her. He keep having her foot and leg checked for swelling and had blood drawn to check her liver function. Once the swelling started to come down and blood test were good she was released. No anti venom was given. All the swelling was gone after a day and she had a little bit of bruising in her foot that went away after less than a week. I would have to have been treated for heart failure! . Glad she is ok!The feeling you get when you are walking with your 3 kids and hear your 5 year old say she sees a snake and turn to her and don't see one and then your 3 year old starts crying out in pain and you turn to where she is and see a copperhead coiled up and ready to strike is not a good feeling. And then you find a bloody spot with 2 puncture wounds. .. |