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8/6/2013 5:48:45 PM EDT
Alright here is the story. After several days of heavy rain my vents in the kitchen had a couple inches of water in them. It is just in the kitchen and has never happened before now. I have a slab foundation. Now after pumping it out and drying the vent piping. I noticed a little water was rising at one of the joints where the male end goes into the female end. I cleaned it out again and watched it to see if more was coming in. My thinking was if more kept coming it might be a leaky pipe under the foundation. However, it stopped and didn't happen again until the next rain we had. This leads me to conclude that it is groundwater leaking in to an imperfection in my ventilation piping. I have know where the water is coming in along the pipe. My question is, is there any sealant that I could use to seal the leak in the pipe? This weekend I will be digging up the ground around the foundation to see if there are any cracks in it that is allowing water to this spot of my house. Also who on here knows how to put in drain tile around the foundation of my house? Do i need to dig below the foundation or equal with it when I lay the piping?

Thanks

GR00VY
8/6/2013 6:15:10 PM EDT
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Vent pipe for what?
I've been in construction for almost 30 years and I don't understand what you're referring to.
8/6/2013 6:17:27 PM EDT
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Vent pipe for what?
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I'm not following this either.

Pictures might help.
8/6/2013 6:20:33 PM EDT
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Are you referring to HVAC duct work as "vents" ?
8/6/2013 6:34:27 PM EDT
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unless you have a spring under your foundation or you live in a marshy swamp, what you described isn't "groundwater". It could be rain water seeping in from somewhere.

8/6/2013 6:50:44 PM EDT
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sorry. yes i mean the hvac duct work. sorry i am not very knowledgeable when it comes to this crap. i don't live on swampy land so it has to be rain water or runoff or something.
8/6/2013 7:01:12 PM EDT
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Or condensation
8/6/2013 7:03:47 PM EDT
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Not condensation. I pumped out over 110 gallons the other day after steady rain. Plus it was dry this morning. Then it rained when i was at work and when i got home there was about 15 gallons worth i pulled out. It is also isolated to the kitchen.
8/7/2013 4:15:35 AM EDT
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Do you have gutters? And how close to the house foundation is the end of the down spouts?

You may need to add some flex pipe to the end of the gutters to get it away from the house. The kitchen end at least.

You may need to dig a trench around that end of the house and add some flex pipe that has holes in the top half. This lets water in so it will drain away.
8/7/2013 4:19:21 AM EDT
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Mind full of fuck
8/7/2013 4:48:38 AM EDT
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Not condensation. I pumped out over 110 gallons the other day after steady rain. Plus it was dry this morning. Then it rained when i was at work and when i got home there was about 15 gallons worth i pulled out. It is also isolated to the kitchen.
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Let me get this straight.



Your AC ducting is below grade?



If so just move, your place is built all worng.



 
8/7/2013 5:10:15 AM EDT
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Do you have gutters? And how close to the house foundation is the end of the down spouts?

You may need to add some flex pipe to the end of the gutters to get it away from the house. The kitchen end at least.

You may need to dig a trench around that end of the house and add some flex pipe that has holes in the top half. This lets water in so it will drain away.
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There is much wisdom in this post.
8/7/2013 2:08:11 PM EDT
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to reply to an above post. Picking up and moving is not really possible at this time. I have a lot of clay in my soil and from what i was told by a landscaper is that the clay tends to not let the water run down but instead it runs horizontal and some may be flowing back to my house.

To other posts. I was thinking about digging about an 8-12 inch wide trench starting at the foundation and going out. Make it about 18 inches deep or so lay some piping designed for drainage that runs the length of the house and then run it underground to the corner of my  yard where there is a sewer and drain it there. I would fill the the trench with gravel so that any water that drains toward the house will hit the gravel and drain down to my drain pipe and go out. While i was at it I was going to run a drain off where my gutter comes down and put it under ground with a reservoir to collect debris and run the rest of the drain with the one in the trench.
8/7/2013 2:12:12 PM EDT
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Take pictures dude... none of this is making sense.
8/7/2013 5:47:36 PM EDT
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Is there a chance that your HVAC system has a vent to the outside above your kitchen. If you have water coming out of the HVAC ducting there might be a vent thats supposed to have a chimney cover on top of it to keep rain out, this may have blown off in a storm and is allowing rain into your ductwork. this could also occur for the exhaust vent for a gas stove or oven.

Without pictures I can't make any more sense out of what you are saying.
8/7/2013 5:49:56 PM EDT
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Let me get this straight.

Your AC ducting is below grade?

If so just move, your place is built all worng.
 
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Not condensation. I pumped out over 110 gallons the other day after steady rain. Plus it was dry this morning. Then it rained when i was at work and when i got home there was about 15 gallons worth i pulled out. It is also isolated to the kitchen.


Let me get this straight.

Your AC ducting is below grade?

If so just move, your place is built all worng.
 



Pretty Much this..........Or Did You Take Bong Hits Before Posting ?
8/8/2013 2:38:57 PM EDT
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Take pictures dude... none of this is making sense.
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I will post pics tomorrow. I am out of town on business until then.
8/8/2013 2:49:15 PM EDT
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Pretty Much this..........Or Did You Take Bong Hits Before Posting ?
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Hell, I may need one trying to figure out what the hell he is describing.  











 
8/8/2013 2:50:55 PM EDT
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Hell, I may need one trying to figure out what the hell he is describing.  




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Pretty Much this..........Or Did You Take Bong Hits Before Posting ?
Hell, I may need one trying to figure out what the hell he is describing.  




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Water gets in HVAC duct work when it rains.
8/8/2013 3:05:47 PM EDT
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Vent pipe for what?
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Totally lost here too.
8/8/2013 3:11:46 PM EDT
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Totally lost here too.
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Vent pipe for what?
I've been in construction for almost 30 years and I don't understand what you're referring to.


Totally lost here too.



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Are you referring to HVAC duct work as "vents" ?



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sorry. yes i mean the hvac duct work. sorry i am not very knowledgeable when it comes to this crap. i don't live on swampy land so it has to be rain water or runoff or something.



When it rains water gets in his HVAC duct work.

8/8/2013 3:16:21 PM EDT
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You have a slab and HVAC ducts in it?????
8/8/2013 3:18:19 PM EDT
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Are your ducts buried and encased in the slab?

Are they metal or plastic material?

I have run into a lot of issues with metal ducts buried in concrete slabs. The slab gets one crack in it and the ground water and moisture from the earth will rot out the duct in no time flat, then you get moisture buildup in the ducts, then mold, then your really screwed.

There are companies that specialize in sealing, I have heard good things about it. Here is an example in the Ohio area.

Bottom line is your slab has been compromised and ground water and drain water need to be diverted away from the house, ducts sealed, and fingers crossed.
8/8/2013 3:21:01 PM EDT
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I thought that you were referring to plumbing vent pipes.
8/9/2013 6:45:21 AM EDT
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Are your ducts buried and encased in the slab?





Are they metal or plastic material?





I have run into a lot of issues with metal ducts buried in concrete slabs. The slab gets one crack in it and the ground water and moisture from the earth will rot out the duct in no time flat, then you get moisture buildup in the ducts, then mold, then your really screwed.





There are companies that specialize in sealing, I have heard good things about it. Here is an example in the Ohio area.





Bottom line is your slab has been compromised and ground water and drain water need to be diverted away from the house, ducts sealed, and fingers crossed.
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I cant even begin to understand how that would pass code.
 
8/9/2013 10:13:17 AM EDT
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I cant even begin to understand how that would pass code.


 
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Are your ducts buried and encased in the slab?

Are they metal or plastic material?

I have run into a lot of issues with metal ducts buried in concrete slabs. The slab gets one crack in it and the ground water and moisture from the earth will rot out the duct in no time flat, then you get moisture buildup in the ducts, then mold, then your really screwed.

There are companies that specialize in sealing, I have heard good things about it. Here is an example in the Ohio area.

Bottom line is your slab has been compromised and ground water and drain water need to be diverted away from the house, ducts sealed, and fingers crossed.


I cant even begin to understand how that would pass code.


 


Here in Ohio and NY where I have seen it I am unaware of any code that prohibits it. I know it was a regular practice because I have seen it many times. The idea was once the metal rotted away you still had the concrete cavity as a duct.

They used to bury all kinds of shit in concrete... Iron pipe, conduit, ducts, etc...