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Posted: 8/6/2013 4:32:26 PM EDT
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I picked up a nail in the tread section of the rear driver tire. The nail is about 3/4" to 1" from the sidewall. The dealer and Walmart both told me they wouldn't repair it because it's too close to the sidewall. The tires are 3 months old and have less than 5000 miles on them. The dealer quoted me $300.00 for the tire. Can the tire be plugged / patched? Is this a ploy to get me to buy a new tire? The nail is clearly in the tread section of the tire. |
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I had an indy shop patch one from the inside cost $20. I've plugged other tires, and it worked for awhile until it wears out.
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Pic? There are guidelines that dealers and Walmart abide to in order to avoid liability. We have a big chart that shows what's acceptable. That said an independent shop might "help" you out.  |
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Pic? There are guidelines that dealers and Walmart abide to in order to avoid liability. We have a big chart that shows what's acceptable. That said an independent shop might "help" you out. http://i43.tinypic.com/2hf5gzr.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2wmhwgj.jpg I JUST had the same thing happen yesterday. Using the green slime. No issue with 30 miles of driving today. |
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If it was my personal car I'd try a plug. A properly done patch might work but the edge will be in the area that flexes a lot. Again, I would trust a plug there but not so much a patch. Customer car that would be a no no where I work. this man knows of what he speaks...... Plug it and be done..... until you develop a wobble from a slipped belt A patch or a plug and patch would fail that close to the shoulder |
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Quoted: I JUST had the same thing happen yesterday. Using the green slime. No issue with 30 miles of driving today. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pic? There are guidelines that dealers and Walmart abide to in order to avoid liability. We have a big chart that shows what's acceptable. That said an independent shop might "help" you out. http://i43.tinypic.com/2hf5gzr.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2wmhwgj.jpg I JUST had the same thing happen yesterday. Using the green slime. No issue with 30 miles of driving today. What's green slime? |
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Yep. My good ol' small town tire shop wouldn't even have to take it off your vehicle. 10 minutes* & $15 and you are on your way. *8 minutes to bullshit with the tire guy about guns & 2 minutes to fix it. 
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Fixable. My good ol' small town tire shop wouldn't even have to take it off your vehicle. 10 minutes* & $15 and you are on your way. *8 minutes to bullshit with the tire guy about guns & 2 minutes to fix it.
Lulz...I used to be the one fixing them in a small-town shop. <<chuckles>> |
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Pic? There are guidelines that dealers and Walmart abide to in order to avoid liability. We have a big chart that shows what's acceptable. That said an independent shop might "help" you out. http://i43.tinypic.com/2hf5gzr.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2wmhwgj.jpg I JUST had the same thing happen yesterday. Using the green slime. No issue with 30 miles of driving today. What's green slime? slime |
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The shop I work at would refuse that also. About 2 years ago though, we still did them as long as they weren't in the sidewall. I've probably put a patch plug in hundreds of tires in the "no go" zone and never had one come back, so it can be done, it's just liability for the shops.
Call around and see if anybody will do it, somebody might still be willing to but more and more shops aren't going to. I worked at a walmart about 6 years ago for a little while, and at that time they were the only place I knew of with that policy. I frequently sent customers to the shop I currently work in when I couldn't patch one for them, and now we're the same way. 
Occasionally I can convince somebody above me to sign off on a "no go" repair because we don't have a replacement tire, maybe use that angle and see if a manager will approve of it, possibly ask to sign a waiver for liability, sometimes we do that at our shop also. |
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Quoted: It can be done,even sidewalls can be repaired if you are willing to send it away to a specialty place. I'm going to be crucified for this, but I have patched my own tires in the middle of the sidewall. I used to run a tire shop so don't think I don't know what I was doing. It's very easy, find the smallest patch possible. I used small tube patches (no shit). The smaller the patch, the less likely it is to flex off. Then again I was running 10 ply tires on a 3/4 ton so it wasn't like there was much flex. Yes, a cap shop should be able to do a section repair on any sidewall. It costs a few bucks but is worth it in the end, and is the right way to do it. Some of us don't have that much time on our hands. To the OP: I would fix that without thinking twice, but then again I worked in an inpependent shop. I didn't have the corporate rule book to follow. Disclaimer: Patching sidewalls causes tires to blow out for absolutely no reason at all and this is a very dangerous practice. You will more than likely kill yourself. |
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Take it to a shop that does truck tires. Not those dinky little pickup things, <<<---- TRUCK tires. They will grind out the hole, back to fresh material, and insert a plug. Then the interior will be ground down and a small patch placed over it. If the hole is within 20 deg. of vertical, an integral plug/patch can be used, otherwise the 2 piece technique is used. Dont use a simple plug DIY kit for a permanent repair. They sometimes dont last the life of the tire, 'cause they MAY allow water to get into the steel belts, that then rust out. Catastrophic tire failures can spoil your whole afternoon. We have all seen those 'alligators' that those asshole truckers leave lying around on freeways. $20 +/- is all it should cost. |
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Take it to a shop that does truck tires. Not those dinky little pickup things, <<<---- TRUCK tires. They will grind out the hole, back to fresh material, and insert a plug. Then the interior will be ground down and a small patch placed over it. If the hole is within 20 deg. of vertical, an integral plug/patch can be used, otherwise the 2 piece technique is used. Dont use a simple plug DIY kit for a permanent repair. They sometimes dont last the life of the tire, 'cause they MAY allow water to get into the steel belts, that then rust out. Catastrophic tire failures can spoil your whole afternoon. We have all seen those 'alligators' that those asshole truckers leave lying around on freeways.
$20 +/- is all it should cost. This. A proper tyre repair includes removal of the damaged belts in the hole. An external plug can be cut by the motion of the belts in the damaged area; grinding it out and filling the hole is the only way to do a proper repair (when paired with an internal patch). |
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Hate to say it but those 'Road Hazard' warranties come into play here. Could be the dealer is looking to get another tire out of you but I'll wager they're looking at it from a liability point of view; you could try another shop. If the tires are so new, see if the dealer will let you buy their Road Hazard pkg on your set and replace this one?
As a victim of this shit in the past, I always opt for the Road Hazard option as long as its a good policy. |
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Take it to a shop that does truck tires. Not those dinky little pickup things, <<<---- TRUCK tires. They will grind out the hole, back to fresh material, and insert a plug. Then the interior will be ground down and a small patch placed over it. If the hole is within 20 deg. of vertical, an integral plug/patch can be used, otherwise the 2 piece technique is used. Dont use a simple plug DIY kit for a permanent repair. They sometimes dont last the life of the tire, 'cause they MAY allow water to get into the steel belts, that then rust out. Catastrophic tire failures can spoil your whole afternoon. We have all seen those 'alligators' that those asshole truckers leave lying around on freeways.
$20 +/- is all it should cost. I'd agree with most of that. I don't kno wwhat kind of tire it is however. The above is good for steel belted tires...but if you are not using these I dunno. And lots of tires for passenger cars are not steel belted. |
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I would have yanked the nail, reamed the hole and plugged it proper in less than 5 minutes. I would feel guilty taking $10 from you for that job. I like the gooey rope style plugs. I keep a plug kit and mini air compressor in my Vette for just such occasions. |