[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Life Below Zero (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/25/2013 5:21:32 PM EDT
| Is anybody else watching this? I don't know her name but the eskimo girl is a total badass. What rifle is she shooting? |
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Pretty cool show. Have seen 4-5 episodes. The one lady that lives all alone at the supply station - something like 9 mos of the year - is pretty remarkable. Not a young woman but must be fairly handy and a bit different to thrive w/out human companionship for that long.
The native eskimo family (w/ caucasion husband) has something like 12 people living in what appears to be about 800 sq ft. Rough. Looking forward to more episodes. |
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Pretty sure it's a 91/30. I think so. I saw the episode where she was plinking away at several running caribou. Nobody bothered to even walk over to look for blood after she repeatedly "missed". I wonder how many of them took one up the rear and wandered around for a couple days before croaking. I was NOT impressed, "subsistence hunters" or not. 
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| The chick that lives alone is a little weird..., always talking about being smarter than her predators. ?..i.e. the wolves and wolverine.....talking like they know im a female and that she walks with a bit of a limp....the eskimo people with the white guy...hmm anyone wonder why he never shoots? Or has a gun...the young kid is cool as hell...he actually rents his cabin out and does hunting guides...pretty cool but definitely a tuff life but they all love it...all eat natural fresh food without big brothers additives in it....cool show....mountain men is good too.... |
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I think the old gal living in Kavik may have a touch of the crazy. They may not show everything, most likely the couple would have gone down to look for signs of a hit. That was their food and they know they might not get another chance at it on that hunt. Yeah, it may have gotten edited out, but it still bugs me...the editors should have made a point to note that the shots were properly followed up and confirmed as clean misses if in fact they were. And they shouldn't have been missed in the first place. Those should have been relatively easy kills for a decent rifleman/ woman, even though they were moving. |
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Yeah, it may have gotten edited out, but it still bugs me...the editors should have made a point to note that the shots were properly followed up and confirmed as clean misses if in fact they were. And they shouldn't have been missed in the first place. Those should have been relatively easy kills for a decent rifleman/ woman, even though they were moving. Quoted:
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I think the old gal living in Kavik may have a touch of the crazy. They may not show everything, most likely the couple would have gone down to look for signs of a hit. That was their food and they know they might not get another chance at it on that hunt. Yeah, it may have gotten edited out, but it still bugs me...the editors should have made a point to note that the shots were properly followed up and confirmed as clean misses if in fact they were. And they shouldn't have been missed in the first place. Those should have been relatively easy kills for a decent rifleman/ woman, even though they were moving. Can't argue with that although I have missed a few easy shots to, and I had a better rifle. |
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Pretty cool show. Have seen 4-5 episodes. The one lady that lives all alone at the supply station - something like 9 mos of the year - is pretty remarkable. Not a young woman but must be fairly handy and a bit different to thrive w/out human companionship for that long. The native eskimo family (w/ caucasion husband) has something like 12 people living in what appears to be about 800 sq ft. Rough. Looking forward to more episodes. They have a few cabins and follow the bou and fish runs. |
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I think the husband might be a felon, he never shoots anything, she's always the one that does. The older single women sure does have a unique vocabulary. The younger guy (trapper), has a cool job. I couldn't hang living off the land only, I need an H.E.B..
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I think so. I saw the episode where she was plinking away at several running caribou. Nobody bothered to even walk over to look for blood after she repeatedly "missed". I wonder how many of them took one up the rear and wandered around for a couple days before croaking. I was NOT impressed, "subsistence hunters" or not.
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Pretty sure it's a 91/30. I think so. I saw the episode where she was plinking away at several running caribou. Nobody bothered to even walk over to look for blood after she repeatedly "missed". I wonder how many of them took one up the rear and wandered around for a couple days before croaking. I was NOT impressed, "subsistence hunters" or not.
They jump from ice floats to ice floats on the move ocean hunting seals. They take well north of 50 bou a year and a whale or two. Not a very simple life they have gas $9.75 a gallon,milk $13.00 a gallon there. |
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I think so. I saw the episode where she was plinking away at several running caribou. Nobody bothered to even walk over to look for blood after she repeatedly "missed". I wonder how many of them took one up the rear and wandered around for a couple days before croaking. I was NOT impressed, "subsistence hunters" or not.
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Pretty sure it's a 91/30. I think so. I saw the episode where she was plinking away at several running caribou. Nobody bothered to even walk over to look for blood after she repeatedly "missed". I wonder how many of them took one up the rear and wandered around for a couple days before croaking. I was NOT impressed, "subsistence hunters" or not.
old school hunting for food is not sport hunting. if there was a cliff to run them off of, they would do it. |
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The chick that lives alone is a little weird..., always talking about being smarter than her predators. ?..i.e. the wolves and wolverine.....talking like they know im a female and that she walks with a bit of a limp....the eskimo people with the white guy...hmm anyone wonder why he never shoots? Or has a gun...the young kid is cool as hell...he actually rents his cabin out and does hunting guides...pretty cool but definitely a tuff life but they all love it...all eat natural fresh food without big brothers additives in it....cool show....mountain men is good too.... Sue the one that lives in Kavik camp, is very cautious. A few years ago she(Sue) was attacked by a grizzly bear and drug off and was in bad shape almost 7-10 days before she could contact any in the outside world of the attack. |
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For people whose "life depends" on their hunting, I would think they would have a better rifle. It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. |
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Agnes wife of Chip Hailstone, she is native Inupiaq. If is a Finnish M39 with Chez LPS FMJ ammo. Quoted:
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Is anybody else watching this? I don't know her name but the eskimo girl is a total badass. What rifle is she shooting? Agnes wife of Chip Hailstone, she is native Inupiaq. If is a Finnish M39 with Chez LPS FMJ ammo. Yup, They are friends of mine through another forum. He laughs at some of the hunters that come up there with high dollar rigs only to find them useless in those conditions. I know Agnes has an SVT-40 that I sent up there to her but it wasn't reliable in the harsh Alaskan winter. The trusty M91 action has not failed them. |
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It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. Quoted:
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For people whose "life depends" on their hunting, I would think they would have a better rifle. It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. |
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I think the husband might be a felon, he never shoots anything, she's always the one that does. The older single women sure does have a unique vocabulary. The younger guy (trapper), has a cool job. I couldn't hang living off the land only, I need an H.E.B.. ETA: Yep, Link It is a very interesting case indeed. One thing you notice he isn't doing any jail doing time. 
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Yup, They are friends of mine through another forum. He laughs at some of the hunters that come up there with high dollar rigs only to find them useless in those conditions. I know Agnes has an SVT-40 that I sent up there to her but it wasn't reliable in the harsh Alaskan winter. The trusty M91 action has not failed them. Quoted:
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Is anybody else watching this? I don't know her name but the eskimo girl is a total badass. What rifle is she shooting? Agnes wife of Chip Hailstone, she is native Inupiaq. If is a Finnish M39 with Chez LPS FMJ ammo. Yup, They are friends of mine through another forum. He laughs at some of the hunters that come up there with high dollar rigs only to find them useless in those conditions. I know Agnes has an SVT-40 that I sent up there to her but it wasn't reliable in the harsh Alaskan winter. The trusty M91 action has not failed them.
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I think so. I saw the episode where she was plinking away at several running caribou. Nobody bothered to even walk over to look for blood after she repeatedly "missed". I wonder how many of them took one up the rear and wandered around for a couple days before croaking. I was NOT impressed, "subsistence hunters" or not.
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Pretty sure it's a 91/30. I think so. I saw the episode where she was plinking away at several running caribou. Nobody bothered to even walk over to look for blood after she repeatedly "missed". I wonder how many of them took one up the rear and wandered around for a couple days before croaking. I was NOT impressed, "subsistence hunters" or not.
Not many. When you grow up having to live off what you can catch or kill you learn what a hit or miss looks like. You know where you hit it by how the animal reacts. Chances are that any shot at a running animal was for the benefit of the show. She probably didn't even shoot at them and with a little editing you have a shoot and miss. If you have to live off what you kill you don't waste ammo. You take the shot when you are sure of a kill. And why the quotes on subsistence hunters? Many people in Alaska live in locations where you can't make a trip to the grocery store. I don't mean that they live outside of town and it is inconvenient. I mean they live in an area where it is impossible. Most of those villages are accessable only by boat or air in the summer and by sled/snowmobile or air in the winter. These people literally live mostly on what they can kill, gather, catch, or raise. |
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Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. Quoted:
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For people whose "life depends" on their hunting, I would think they would have a better rifle. It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. Add that up on the 500+ head of game that family kills a year for them and the village. Most people just take brown bear hides and leave the carcass after the kill, they bring it back to the village and it is all consumed. |
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It is a very interesting case indeed. One thing you notice he isn't doing any jail doing time. Quoted:
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I think the husband might be a felon, he never shoots anything, she's always the one that does. The older single women sure does have a unique vocabulary. The younger guy (trapper), has a cool job. I couldn't hang living off the land only, I need an H.E.B.. ETA: Yep, Link It is a very interesting case indeed. One thing you notice he isn't doing any jail doing time. I'm sure the lawyer is the reason why, he's appealing it. There's another page where he gave someone acid without them knowing it. |
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Here is video of them killing 10-15 bou swimming on the river with a .22 rifle in about 1:20 minutes flat.
Its all about survival not hunting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KOJPax8OI |
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Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. Quoted:
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For people whose "life depends" on their hunting, I would think they would have a better rifle. It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. Think about this. What we would call a good rifle in a readily available caliber is in the $500.00-$1,500.00 range in the lower 48. You can easily triple that amount in Alaska. Now you have $10,000 per year to spend on necessities. You will easily burn through 500 gallons of fuel and heating oil in the winter. Figure $2,500.00. Then there is equipment upkeep, housing repairs, etc. Let's say $2,000.00. Any food that you cannot obtain elsewhere like vegetables, fruit, bread, etc. easily another $2000.00. Then add the cost to fly all that stuff in and there is probably another $2,000.00. Now you are down to $1,500.00. If you buy a "better" gun there goes your money. OR you can but that old surplus Russian gun for $400.00 and 400 rounds of ammo for another $200.00. That would leave you $600.00 for a cushion until you can sell some furs. |
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I'm sure the lawyer is the reason why, he's appealing it. There's another page where he gave someone acid without them knowing it. Quoted:
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I think the husband might be a felon, he never shoots anything, she's always the one that does. The older single women sure does have a unique vocabulary. The younger guy (trapper), has a cool job. I couldn't hang living off the land only, I need an H.E.B.. ETA: Yep, Link It is a very interesting case indeed. One thing you notice he isn't doing any jail doing time. I'm sure the lawyer is the reason why, he's appealing it. There's another page where he gave someone acid without them knowing it. In the end the real truth will come out and he will do very well in the end. |
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Think about this. What we would call a good rifle in a readily available caliber is in the $500.00-$1,500.00 range in the lower 48. You can easily triple that amount in Alaska. Now you have $10,000 per year to spend on necessities. You will easily burn through 500 gallons of fuel and heating oil in the winter. Figure $2,500.00. Then there is equipment upkeep, housing repairs, etc. Let's say $2,000.00. Any food that you cannot obtain elsewhere like vegetables, fruit, bread, etc. easily another $2000.00. Then add the cost to fly all that stuff in and there is probably another $2,000.00. Now you are down to $1,500.00. If you buy a "better" gun there goes your money. OR you can but that old surplus Russian gun for $400.00 and 400 rounds of ammo for another $200.00. That would leave you $600.00 for a cushion until you can sell some furs. Quoted:
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For people whose "life depends" on their hunting, I would think they would have a better rifle. It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. Think about this. What we would call a good rifle in a readily available caliber is in the $500.00-$1,500.00 range in the lower 48. You can easily triple that amount in Alaska. Now you have $10,000 per year to spend on necessities. You will easily burn through 500 gallons of fuel and heating oil in the winter. Figure $2,500.00. Then there is equipment upkeep, housing repairs, etc. Let's say $2,000.00. Any food that you cannot obtain elsewhere like vegetables, fruit, bread, etc. easily another $2000.00. Then add the cost to fly all that stuff in and there is probably another $2,000.00. Now you are down to $1,500.00. If you buy a "better" gun there goes your money. OR you can but that old surplus Russian gun for $400.00 and 400 rounds of ammo for another $200.00. That would leave you $600.00 for a cushion until you can sell some furs. |
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In the end the real truth will come out and he will do very well in the end. Quoted:
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I think the husband might be a felon, he never shoots anything, she's always the one that does. The older single women sure does have a unique vocabulary. The younger guy (trapper), has a cool job. I couldn't hang living off the land only, I need an H.E.B.. ETA: Yep, Link It is a very interesting case indeed. One thing you notice he isn't doing any jail doing time. I'm sure the lawyer is the reason why, he's appealing it. There's another page where he gave someone acid without them knowing it. In the end the real truth will come out and he will do very well in the end. I have nothing against him, I don't even know him. I'm was trying to figure out why he never shot anything in the show. It was easy to figure out. If he's a good guy I hope he comes out ahead. |
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Just water and sewer run $250.00 a month there and electric is $250.00+ per month. With Cargo barge or cargo shipping is 5X-10X the cost of the cost of the -48. Quoted:
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For people whose "life depends" on their hunting, I would think they would have a better rifle. It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. Think about this. What we would call a good rifle in a readily available caliber is in the $500.00-$1,500.00 range in the lower 48. You can easily triple that amount in Alaska. Now you have $10,000 per year to spend on necessities. You will easily burn through 500 gallons of fuel and heating oil in the winter. Figure $2,500.00. Then there is equipment upkeep, housing repairs, etc. Let's say $2,000.00. Any food that you cannot obtain elsewhere like vegetables, fruit, bread, etc. easily another $2000.00. Then add the cost to fly all that stuff in and there is probably another $2,000.00. Now you are down to $1,500.00. If you buy a "better" gun there goes your money. OR you can but that old surplus Russian gun for $400.00 and 400 rounds of ammo for another $200.00. That would leave you $600.00 for a cushion until you can sell some furs. I figured I was a little on the conservative side. |
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I've seen it a few times. Pretty cool show, but what's with the sudden fascination with living in Alaska?
It seems like every channel has some Alaska based program on it every night. Life below zero, Ultimate survival, Ice road truckers, The last frontier, Deadliest catch, Flying wild Alaska, etc. |
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Here is video of them killing 10-15 bou swimming on the river with a .22 rifle in about 1:20 minutes flat. Its all about survival not hunting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KOJPax8OI like I said before, If they have cliffs- they would run them off of it. I always laugh when I hear some bow hunter tell me that "he hunts them in the old ways" I reply- " you set a fire and run them off cliffs?" there is no hunting in substance food gathering. only killing in the most efficient, fastest method possible. |
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I've seen it a few times. Pretty cool show, but what's with the sudden fascination with living in Alaska? It seems like every channel has some Alaska based program on it every night. Life below zero, Ultimate survival, Ice road truckers, The last frontier, Deadliest catch, Flying wild Alaska, etc. People want out of the prison of the lower 48? |
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I've seen it a few times. Pretty cool show, but what's with the sudden fascination with living in Alaska? It seems like every channel has some Alaska based program on it every night. Life below zero, Ultimate survival, Ice road truckers, The last frontier, Deadliest catch, Flying wild Alaska, etc. People want out of the prison of the lower 48? That sad part is that I recently saw an episode of "Gangland" showing all of the filthy, degenerate gangs in Alaska. I guess there's no escaping that type of garbage no matter how far you move or how cold it gets. |
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Quoted: Why? Is that considered racist or derogatory in some way? Serious question. (I have a hard time keeping up...) Quoted: Quoted: I bet you wouldn't call her an "Eskimo" to her face! - Clint Why? Is that considered racist or derogatory in some way? Serious question. (I have a hard time keeping up...) Of course. In 10 years, whatever is politically correct now will be the new racist, and they'll have a new name. |
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Alaska and rednecks are the reality show staples.
I can deal with the AK survival stuff and hard life but the redneck stuff is making me cringe. Editing can really make you good and/or bad. Anything is better than the whiny rich housewife garbage. Wondering what region will be next. |
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Think about this. What we would call a good rifle in a readily available caliber is in the $500.00-$1,500.00 range in the lower 48. You can easily triple that amount in Alaska. Now you have $10,000 per year to spend on necessities. You will easily burn through 500 gallons of fuel and heating oil in the winter. Figure $2,500.00. Then there is equipment upkeep, housing repairs, etc. Let's say $2,000.00. Any food that you cannot obtain elsewhere like vegetables, fruit, bread, etc. easily another $2000.00. Then add the cost to fly all that stuff in and there is probably another $2,000.00. Now you are down to $1,500.00. If you buy a "better" gun there goes your money. OR you can but that old surplus Russian gun for $400.00 and 400 rounds of ammo for another $200.00. That would leave you $600.00 for a cushion until you can sell some furs. Quoted:
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For people whose "life depends" on their hunting, I would think they would have a better rifle. It is a lot due to the cost of ammo. A box of .375 H&H in the -48 run $60.00 per 20 and in many villages it will run $150.00+per 20 rds. That is why the .223 is very popular. Ammo costs go down if your hit percentage goes up. A surplus gun with surplus ammo is false economy. Think about this. What we would call a good rifle in a readily available caliber is in the $500.00-$1,500.00 range in the lower 48. You can easily triple that amount in Alaska. Now you have $10,000 per year to spend on necessities. You will easily burn through 500 gallons of fuel and heating oil in the winter. Figure $2,500.00. Then there is equipment upkeep, housing repairs, etc. Let's say $2,000.00. Any food that you cannot obtain elsewhere like vegetables, fruit, bread, etc. easily another $2000.00. Then add the cost to fly all that stuff in and there is probably another $2,000.00. Now you are down to $1,500.00. If you buy a "better" gun there goes your money. OR you can but that old surplus Russian gun for $400.00 and 400 rounds of ammo for another $200.00. That would leave you $600.00 for a cushion until you can sell some furs. 500 gallons! Ha I wish @ -40 your boiler doesn't stop running. |