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7/13/2013 7:26:41 PM EDT
Well?

I'll have a big discount...  Will be spending a lot of money.  
7/13/2013 7:28:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Good, as good as Snap-on and MAC. I would say better than MAC, but the big 3 are pretty much on par. Only difference is Snap-on has more USA made stuff.
7/13/2013 7:28:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Not bad. I think a large portion of what you're paying more for is the fact the tool peddler comes to you. I have a few of their pneumatic angle-grinders and ratchets. Work well. I am pleased with price:performance.
7/13/2013 7:29:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Really good stuff.

7/13/2013 7:29:15 PM EDT
[#4]
Mac/MATCO/Snap-On are all "Tier 1" tools.
7/13/2013 7:30:15 PM EDT
[#5]
I have some wrenches and sockets. Never had an issue with them in the 20 years I've had them. Can't say anything about recent quality though.
7/13/2013 7:30:24 PM EDT
[#6]
Spend away.
Pretty good stuff!
7/13/2013 7:30:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Good and expensive as f*ck. Definitely a buy once cry once thing.
7/13/2013 7:35:03 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Mac/MATCO/Snap-On are all "Tier 1" tools.


and Cornwell
7/13/2013 7:40:17 PM EDT
[#9]
The Matco guy in my area is a douche, and I generally prefer snap on. The only time I bought from matco was when I got a half inch impact. It's basically an IR, and I used IR when I worked on a drill rig around salt water and sand, they are indestructible, and the snap on half inch impacts are ergonomically retarded. Aside from the impact guns, Matco and snap on are noveske/larue. Most of my business goes to snap on, same with noveske.
7/13/2013 7:45:02 PM EDT
[#10]
MAC: if I wanted stanley tools I'd goto walmart......


Matcos air impacts are basically ir. Which are awesome and have a 2 year warranty.
7/13/2013 7:48:16 PM EDT
[#11]
The only thing matco makes for themselves is their tool boxes.

Everything else is made for them. Some stuff is made by other companies. Other things is made for them by other companies that their parent company owns.


If your going through a tech school and have a cornwell dealer, you can get a better discount through him.
7/13/2013 7:49:17 PM EDT
[#12]
GOODSTUFF !
7/13/2013 7:51:17 PM EDT
[#13]
GTG
7/13/2013 7:54:43 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


MAC: if I wanted stanley tools I'd goto walmart......





Matcos air impacts are basically ir. Which are awesome and have a 2 year warranty.


This is my response to your sigline

 
7/13/2013 7:57:36 PM EDT
[#15]


SNAP-ON
7/13/2013 7:59:32 PM EDT
[#16]
Dealer support is key, snap on has the most dealers where I live so that's what I have the most of.
Wrenching for 20 plus years so I have all the brands including some China stuff that was purchased to modify.
I will take pride in passing the set down to my son someday,
7/13/2013 8:01:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Dealer support is key, snap on has the most dealers where I live so that's what I have the most of.
Wrenching for 20 plus years so I have all the brands including some China stuff that was purchased to modify.
I will take pride in passing the set down to my son someday,


But I will have a 50% discount with Matco, not Snap-On... Or you best bet I'd choose Snap-On!  
7/13/2013 8:02:26 PM EDT
[#18]
The Allen drive sockets are soft. Other wrenches and sockets are gtg.
7/13/2013 8:02:57 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Dealer support is key, snap on has the most dealers where I live so that's what I have the most of.
Wrenching for 20 plus years so I have all the brands including some China stuff that was purchased to modify.
I will take pride in passing the set down to my son someday,


But I will have a 50% discount with Matco, not Snap-On... Or you best bet I'd choose Snap-On!  


Keep in mind that 50% discount is on extreamly over inflated prices.
7/13/2013 8:03:35 PM EDT
[#20]
They got alot of my money.   GTG
7/13/2013 8:06:22 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

SNAP-ON


LOVE my snap-on electric impact ct7850. Will truck on for an entire work day on 1 battery.

I have a mix of  matco, snapon, and craftsman, with a couple kobalt chrome and impact sockets tossed into the mix and I am happy with all of them, except for some of craftsmans 1/2 in deep sockets, they suck can't even do head bolts with them cause the inner diameter isn't large enough for the bolt.

I do like that MATCO's 88 tooth ratchets are much thinner than the snapon.
7/13/2013 8:06:58 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Dealer support is key, snap on has the most dealers where I live so that's what I have the most of.
Wrenching for 20 plus years so I have all the brands including some China stuff that was purchased to modify.
I will take pride in passing the set down to my son someday,


But I will have a 50% discount with Matco, not Snap-On... Or you best bet I'd choose Snap-On!  


I'd double check that. Snap-on's SEP program is over 50%.

MATCO still works out to be cheaper, but look into the snapon sep
7/13/2013 8:07:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Some stuff better than other. Their tool boxes are, IMO, the best in the business. Their chrome and shape on hand tools are not as nice as Snap-On. Their new generation of swivel impact sockets are the best.

They are pretty tough tools. Definitely up there with the best in the business. I own thousands of dollars of their product. A huge part was the support that I got on my route.
7/13/2013 8:09:41 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:

Quoted:
MAC: if I wanted stanley tools I'd goto walmart......


Matcos air impacts are basically ir. Which are awesome and have a 2 year warranty.

This is my response to your sigline  





7/13/2013 8:16:59 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Dealer support is key, snap on has the most dealers where I live so that's what I have the most of.
Wrenching for 20 plus years so I have all the brands including some China stuff that was purchased to modify.
I will take pride in passing the set down to my son someday,


But I will have a 50% discount with Matco, not Snap-On... Or you best bet I'd choose Snap-On!  


I'd double check that. Snap-on's SEP program is over 50%.

MATCO still works out to be cheaper, but look into the snapon sep


Great, now you're gunna have me spending more money.    Although their website says "[e]ach Student may purchase up to $9,000 worth of Snap-on SEP product at List price."

Not sure what kind of discount that would come out to...
7/13/2013 8:20:57 PM EDT
[#26]
their cordless line is pretty decent, i have the cordless 1/4 in ratchet, 3/8 ratchet, 1/2 in impact, 3/8 impact, 1/4 in impact, and the 12v infnium screwdriver and LED light.  along with ratchets, air tools, etc...not bad stuff, just be mindful and aware that a lot of it is just rebranded.  their ratchets are armstrong, most air tools are ingersoll rand, and some other stuff is gear wrench.
7/13/2013 8:26:33 PM EDT
[#27]
I have a 3 way mix of Snap On, Matco and Cornwell. I'd say 50% Snap On, 30% Matco, 20% Cornwell. Snap On and Matco are pretty much evenly matched and given a choice I would honestly pick either one and bet on it. Cornwell, not so much. Alot of their stuff is poorly executed and not really dependable like the Snap On/Matco stuff. As far as warranty goes they are all pretty much the same but I still want Snap On or Matco over Cornwell.
7/13/2013 8:47:59 PM EDT
[#28]
I mostly spend money with Matco, though I prefer Snap-on tools. It's all about the dealer. If you can get a guy that will show up every week, warranty what breaks, cut you occasional deals and bail you out if you come up needing a tool through the week, buy from him. Right now that's the Matco dealer for me. The Snap-on guy is pretty regular when it's time to charge my card, but when I need something from him he's nowhere to be found.
7/13/2013 8:49:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Their tools are good. Just ask about warrenty. Most of them have a

lifetime warrenty, but pnumatics and electronic stuff is limited. I had

a left hand drill bit/easy-out set that the drill bits broke, they weren't

covered. After that I checked warrenty on everything I bought.
7/13/2013 8:51:26 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Quoted:
MAC: if I wanted stanley tools I'd goto walmart......


Matcos air impacts are basically ir. Which are awesome and have a 2 year warranty.

This is my response to your sigline  




7/13/2013 8:53:02 PM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:


I mostly spend money with Matco, though I prefer Snap-on tools. It's all about the dealer. If you can get a guy that will show up every week, warranty what breaks, cut you occasional deals and bail you out if you come up needing a tool through the week, buy from him. Right now that's the Matco dealer for me. The Snap-on guy is pretty regular when it's time to charge my card, but when I need something from him he's nowhere to be found.


This trait must be required for Snap On dealer consideration because I had the same problem with my Snap On guy whereas the Matco and Cornwell guys would bend over backwards to help even if it didn't immediately benefit them.

 
7/13/2013 9:17:42 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I mostly spend money with Matco, though I prefer Snap-on tools. It's all about the dealer. If you can get a guy that will show up every week, warranty what breaks, cut you occasional deals and bail you out if you come up needing a tool through the week, buy from him. Right now that's the Matco dealer for me. The Snap-on guy is pretty regular when it's time to charge my card, but when I need something from him he's nowhere to be found.

This trait must be required for Snap On dealer consideration because I had the same problem with my Snap On guy whereas the Matco and Cornwell guys would bend over backwards to help even if it didn't immediately benefit them.  


I've met about half a dozen different Snap On dealers here and they're all pricks. At least the current guy is a gun guy and owns a few AR's (have some Spikes and Magpul stickers on one of my boxes). The Cornwell guy has definitely been the most reliable, and he's easily the best guy to do business with. We just got a new Matco guy after not having one for a year or so, the last one didn't last long, this new guy doesn't seem like he could sell coke to a hooker.

I've got a good mix of Cornwell, Mac, and Matco, and there are quite a few guys in the shop with much more than me in Snap On, Mac, Matco, and Cornwell. A lot of those guys leave tools with me to get warrantied when they take off early, I've seen too much shit break from all of them to really say that any one one is "better" than the other. If you like the features or ergonomics of tool from one of those brands, just get it and don't worry if it's "as good" as another brands. Just make sure it can be warrantied when the time comes. Like I said, we didn't have a Matco guy for awhile, guess who got a truck load of warranties dumped on him the first day he showed up? I don't think our Cornwell guy has missed more than couple of weeks the entire 5 years he's been coming, and he also comes twice a week.
7/13/2013 9:22:42 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Some stuff better than other. Their tool boxes are, IMO, the best in the business. Their chrome and shape on hand tools are not as nice as Snap-On. Their new generation of swivel impact sockets are the best.

They are pretty tough tools. Definitely up there with the best in the business. I own thousands of dollars of their product. A huge part was the support that I got on my route.


I found one person, who really knows whats up, their impact swivels are leaps and bounds ahead of the others.
7/13/2013 9:29:13 PM EDT
[#34]
I think their pnumatic grinders and other high torque air tools beat snap on personally.  they aren't as noisy and run smoother and stronger.
7/13/2013 9:31:27 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
I think their pnumatic grinders and other high torque air tools beat snap on personally.  they aren't as noisy and run smoother and stronger.


Good to know, thanks!
7/13/2013 9:33:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mac/MATCO/Snap-On are all "Tier 1" tools.


and Cornwell


I use all of them.
7/13/2013 9:44:14 PM EDT
[#37]
MATCO has the best tool boxes by far. The tools...on par with any of the other big brands. We researched every company and bought well over a million bucks worth of MATCO tools and boxes for the wing I was assigned to. Company reps were pleasant to work with and everything was delivered as promised.
7/13/2013 11:36:48 PM EDT
[#38]
they are good tools.
7/14/2013 4:25:10 PM EDT
[#39]
I hauled many truckloads of MAC, MATCO, Snap-On and Proto tools and boxes out of the same factory in Iowa to distribution warehouses all over the country.  I tend to think they're all on the same par as one another.
7/14/2013 4:42:17 PM EDT
[#40]
Snap-on

Everything else is also ran.
7/14/2013 4:44:02 PM EDT
[#41]
I read the thread title as "How are Choco Tacos?" and wanted to give my opinion, but nevermind...  
7/14/2013 4:48:20 PM EDT
[#42]
I would not throw a Matco tool out of my box.
7/14/2013 4:59:22 PM EDT
[#43]
Matco are OK, I never liked them as well as Snap-On or MAC.
Matco tools always seemed to me to be more along the lines of high end Craftsman than Snap-On or MAC, but that is just my opinion. I voted with my wallet and my vote didn't go to Matco.
For air tools I never drank the Snap-On Kool-Aid, I like IR and have no complaints about the quality, durability or longevity of any of the IR tools I have owned.





ETA: I know for sure that a lot of guys in the shops I worked in went with Snap-On air tools because they could buy them off the truck on credit, where they would have had to pay cash for IR. That is a big reason that the truck tools are as expensive as they are. Yes building quality costs more, but the vast majority of their customers are either large accounts that get special pricing in bulk, or guys paying whatever the salesman wants because they need it now and he will give it to them on credit. I knew lots of guys who after years of working were still giving half of their paycheck to the tool guys.