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7/12/2013 9:37:56 AM EDT
So, I just binge watched all of Justified over the last two months or so.

I enjoyed the show, but there are several areas where a conscious effort to suspend disbelief must be made.  No problem. I'll play along because I like to be entertained.

One thing, what's up with Boyd being Kingpin in the making and we've only seen him have more than two or three guys in his crew on a couple of occasions?

(shootout with Dickie Bennett's crew, for example).

Is it just supposed to be implied that he has a larger organization; or is it just him and two or three guys who manage to run the county?
7/12/2013 9:43:49 AM EDT
[#1]
I got the impression he would, and could, just bring in muscle when he needed it.  Of course, one key guy betrayed him and one committed suicide by cop.
7/12/2013 9:46:43 AM EDT
[#2]
I have enjoyed the different versions of Boyd from White Power guy to Religious nut, but my favorite villian is still the old matriarch who ran the store. I especially liked her final scene.
7/12/2013 9:49:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Didn't his dad wipe out a whole bunch of his guys in season 2?

Sometimes I button my shirt all the way to the top and start talking like him to mess with my wife. He's a great character.
7/12/2013 9:50:03 AM EDT
[#4]
What, you can't run a criminal enterprise with a cripple, a woman, and a fat junky?
 
7/12/2013 9:50:04 AM EDT
[#5]
Boyd kicks ass with his philosophical bullshitting, and he's one of my favorite characters.  However I've always been under the impression that the audience only sees part of his crew and organization.
7/12/2013 9:51:12 AM EDT
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What, you can't run a criminal enterprise with a cripple, a woman, and a fat junky?  


You can when everyone else is on Oxy
7/12/2013 9:53:08 AM EDT
[#7]
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What, you can't run a criminal enterprise with a cripple, a woman, and a fat junky?  


Bill Clinton seemed to get by with about that.
7/12/2013 9:53:34 AM EDT
[#8]
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I have enjoyed the different versions of Boyd from White Power guy to Religious nut, but my favorite villian is still the old matriarch who ran the store. I especially liked her final scene.


Her and the guy who played Buck Compton from BoB were probably the two greatest TV villians in the last 20 years of so of TV (I didn't watch the Wire, so I can comment).

Having both in the same series was impressive.

The Buck Compton guy, no spoilers here, but he had the potential to be Raylan Givens version of the Joker. I think they could have done more with him.
7/12/2013 9:56:20 AM EDT
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I got the impression he would, and could, just bring in muscle when he needed it.  Of course, one key guy betrayed him and one committed suicide by cop.


Two guys betrayed him and there was the suicide by cop.  That's why I was wondering if the had a bench to fall back on.
7/12/2013 9:56:22 AM EDT
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What, you can't run a criminal enterprise with a cripple, a woman, and a fat junky?  


Bill Clinton seemed to get by with about that.




Outfukingstanding!
7/12/2013 10:20:37 AM EDT
[#11]



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What, you can't run a criminal enterprise with a cripple, a woman, and a fat junky?  




Bill Clinton seemed to get by with about that.






 
7/12/2013 10:27:09 AM EDT
[#12]
You are focused on the wrong Crowder.














7/12/2013 10:30:40 AM EDT
[#13]
First counties in Kentucky are small.  We have 120 counties here. The rural counties have small populations.  So when he is "running the county" that a county of only 29,000 people.  What makes Boyd a Kingpin is that he knows everyone, has connections that let him skirt the law, and he will kill you if you challenge him.  Take him out and Eva will hunt you down and kill you and probably your family.  Unless you plan on killing a lot of people you don't challenge those in charge.  If you remember early on Boyd and Maggs had an understanding and controlled different aspects of the illicit trades.
7/12/2013 10:43:51 AM EDT
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7/12/2013 10:46:23 AM EDT
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Didn't he get iced at the end of last season?


I was trying to limit spoilers.



 
7/12/2013 12:02:07 PM EDT
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I was trying to limit spoilers.
 


Hey-o!!!

Whoops, deleted my post
7/12/2013 12:06:26 PM EDT
[#17]



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One thing, what's up with Boyd being Kingpin in the making and we've only seen him have more than two or three guys in his crew on a couple of occasions?



Is it just supposed to be implied that he has a larger organization; or is it just him and two or three guys who manage to run the county?


It's network television... budgets are tight!



Just enjoy it for what it is... a pretty good show.



 
7/12/2013 12:09:20 PM EDT
[#18]
OP is going to love season 4

7/12/2013 12:10:08 PM EDT
[#19]
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You are focused on the wrong Crowder.





Crazy thing is there are quite a few women in Kentucky hollers who would look like that if they didn't get hooked on meth and pills.
7/12/2013 12:11:04 PM EDT
[#20]
He plays one of the best characters on television.



7/12/2013 12:11:25 PM EDT
[#21]
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What, you can't run a criminal enterprise with a cripple, a woman, and a fat junky?  


He's even down to one whore now.
7/12/2013 12:19:08 PM EDT
[#22]
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You are focused on the wrong Crowder.




Meh, she's just OK. Like maybe the best looking waitress in a given truck stop diner.

Now, Raylan's ex/baby mama...


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7/12/2013 12:25:30 PM EDT
[#23]
His organization is his family, kith and kin.  Them's clan folk down Kaintuck way.  

It gets real clannish around Appalachia, and if you get one or two families that run an organized crime racket, everyone outside of the clan participates in it, benefits from it, or just tries to stay clear of it.  

In the case of Justified, it implied that the Crowder Clan runs the criminal syndicate in that county.  When Boyd becomes the patriarch of his clan, they follow his lead.  Thus, he's the king of the county.
7/12/2013 12:40:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Walton Goggins is just a really good actor. He was awesome in The Shield too.
7/12/2013 12:42:47 PM EDT
[#25]
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His organization is his family, kith and kin.  Them's clan folk down Kaintuck way.  

It gets real clannish around Appalachia, and if you get one or two families that run an organized crime racket, everyone outside of the clan participates in it, benefits from it, or just tries to stay clear of it.  

In the case of Justified, it implied that the Crowder Clan runs the criminal syndicate in that county.  When Boyd becomes the patriarch of his clan, they follow his lead.  Thus, he's the king of the county.


Maybe. Seems like it must be a very crime ridden county, you have the butcher/loan shark/bank, Mag's crew, the Dixie mafia, etc.
7/12/2013 12:51:44 PM EDT
[#26]
Um. Well it's a TV show.
7/12/2013 12:59:55 PM EDT
[#27]
She is very nice to look at........the Best Crowder  

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You are focused on the wrong Crowder.




7/12/2013 1:01:15 PM EDT
[#28]
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Didn't his dad wipe out a whole bunch of his guys in season 2?

Sometimes I button my shirt all the way to the top and start talking like him to mess with my wife. He's a great character.


Yup. I'm guessing Boyd picked up his dad's crew when Bo got picked off.

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7/12/2013 2:23:29 PM EDT
[#29]
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Walton Goggins is just a really good actor. He was awesome in The Shield too.


And in Sons of Anarchy.

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7/12/2013 3:43:24 PM EDT
[#30]
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Um. Well it's a TV show.


Got it.  There's a thing called backstory that effects another thing called context.  I was curious as to how that one thing impacted the other.

7/12/2013 5:14:20 PM EDT
[#31]
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What, you can't run a criminal enterprise with a cripple, a woman, and a fat junky?  


When that woman is Ava Crowder, I would be too busy banging her to run the criminal enterprise effectively.
7/12/2013 6:22:04 PM EDT
[#32]
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His organization is his family, kith and kin.  Them's clan folk down Kaintuck way.  

It gets real clannish around Appalachia, and if you get one or two families that run an organized crime racket, everyone outside of the clan participates in it, benefits from it, or just tries to stay clear of it.  

In the case of Justified, it implied that the Crowder Clan runs the criminal syndicate in that county.  When Boyd becomes the patriarch of his clan, they follow his lead.  Thus, he's the king of the county.


Maybe. Seems like it must be a very crime ridden county, you have the butcher/loan shark/bank, Mag's crew, the Dixie mafia, etc.

Wouldn't be a very interesting marshal show if it was full of Mayberry folks.

7/12/2013 6:22:47 PM EDT
[#33]
Kentucky is simpler than we think?

Either way I really enjoy watching Boyd on Justified.