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7/12/2013 6:48:40 AM EDT
Any mil guys use these while training? Do you have to use the spring method as shown in the manual?
7/12/2013 6:50:14 AM EDT
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Is the "second object" a "rock or something"?

 
7/12/2013 6:50:35 AM EDT
[#2]
We use these, but frequently they are off limits due to dry conditions.



I've seen people wrap the spring around a small tree. Whatever keeps it on.


7/12/2013 6:55:24 AM EDT
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Is the "second object" a "rock or something"?



 


Habahaha nah it's just a picture of a big blob looking thing jk



7/12/2013 6:56:04 AM EDT
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No, you don't have to use the spring. In fact, I've never set one up how that picture shows.
7/12/2013 6:56:11 AM EDT
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We use these, but frequently they are off limits due to dry conditions.



I've seen people wrap the spring around a small tree. Whatever keeps it on.



Do you have to use the spring though could I just tie some fishing line to it and use that?

 
7/12/2013 6:57:30 AM EDT
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No, you don't have to use the spring. In fact, I've never set one up how that picture shows.


How would you typically set it up?

 
7/12/2013 6:59:37 AM EDT
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No, you don't have to use the spring. In fact, I've never set one up how that picture shows.

How would you typically set it up?  


I usually just tack the thing to a tree and run the wire to another tree, usually using the spring straightened out and attached to the wire to get a bit more length out of it.
7/12/2013 7:06:27 AM EDT
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No, you don't have to use the spring. In fact, I've never set one up how that picture shows.


How would you typically set it up?  




I usually just tack the thing to a tree and run the wire to another tree, usually using the spring straightened out and attached to the wire to get a bit more length out of it.


Gotcha. I don't have any springs that came with mine so would line by itself work? Does it take a lot of pressure to set one off?

 
7/12/2013 7:11:50 AM EDT
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No, you don't have to use the spring. In fact, I've never set one up how that picture shows.



Yeah; Talk about making something easy difficult.
7/12/2013 7:14:34 AM EDT
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You don't have to use the spring but, if you do, you can set it up so the slightest movement of the trip wire will function it. Also, using the spring allows for pull/tension release functioning (either pulling or cutting the wire functions it).
7/12/2013 7:16:24 AM EDT
[#11]
I would think the spring is to prevent tripping injuries, not to ensure function.
7/12/2013 9:28:17 AM EDT
[#12]
It's supposed to take up the slack without setting it off, but I've never see it used that way.




7/12/2013 9:29:32 AM EDT
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Is the "second object" a "rock or something"?

 


7/12/2013 9:29:47 AM EDT
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No, you don't have to use the spring. In fact, I've never set one up how that picture shows.

How would you typically set it up?  


I usually just tack the thing to a tree and run the wire to another tree, usually using the spring straightened out and attached to the wire to get a bit more length out of it.


This. I've seen it used with the spring, but only by folks using them for the first time. Most people with experience tend to do it as said above.
7/12/2013 10:00:26 AM EDT
[#15]
I set an artillery simulator much like that during an exercise.  Ran the length of the wire down the top of a long fallen log in prep for a planned night attack against a tactical company position.





The probing attacks came and went after dark - and after about 70 minutes of that goofing around I saw and heard one of my artillery sims go off on a rise 100 meters away.





Story was later that the company CO, XO, 1SGT and an Lt. sat down on the log with an umpire to watch the attacks.  Apparently the wire had enough stretch to not trigger.  After 15 minutes the CO stood up and snagged the wire as he stood - and took out the entire command structure.  Boom.

 
7/12/2013 10:06:07 AM EDT
[#16]
Fuck I hate those things.  "Incoming!  Incoming!  North 300 meters!"  Dammit!
7/12/2013 3:37:30 PM EDT
[#17]
I didn't get the springs that would typically come with them. Is there an adequate substitute from home depot? Are they tight or loose springs typically? Or should I just not even bother?
7/12/2013 3:46:45 PM EDT
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Is the "second object" a "rock or something"?

 

Habahaha nah it's just a picture of a big blob looking thing jk



don't forget your spoon.
7/12/2013 4:00:38 PM EDT
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I didn't get the springs that would typically come with them. Is there an adequate substitute from home depot? Are they tight or loose springs typically? Or should I just not even bother?


I wouldn't bother.
 
7/12/2013 7:46:23 PM EDT
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I didn't get the springs that would typically come with them. Is there an adequate substitute from home depot? Are they tight or loose springs typically? Or should I just not even bother?


I wouldn't bother.





 


Thanks