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7/8/2013 8:46:47 PM EDT
Ok lets say im hooking up a DC/DC SSR to a 24v 200W heater. Im seeing that I need a diode across the Load to keep the SSR happy. What Size Diode would I need? Is a 24v 5KW too large?
7/8/2013 8:53:57 PM EDT
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It will depend on the inductance of the coil in the heating element.  I'm assuming the diode is there to dissipate the back-EMF generated from switching off the heater with the SSR.

7/8/2013 8:55:33 PM EDT
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It will depend on the inductance of the coil in the heating element.  I'm assuming the diode is there to dissipate the back-EMF generated from switching off the heater with the SSR.


its a Klapton heater element. How can I find out?
7/8/2013 9:11:30 PM EDT
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hmm.. looks like i might have to look for a 36v 600W ish one. Correct?
7/8/2013 9:23:25 PM EDT
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Anything in that range would probably be fine- even with an unrealistically high inductance for the heater, you're still only dissipating Edit: ~0.003 J, and in around 20 us.   The specific thing you're looking for here, if you don't have something laying around already, is a TVS diode.  Anything similar to here is probably fine: Digikey
7/8/2013 9:30:18 PM EDT
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Am I missing something here? The heater element would be pretty much straight resistive, right? Why would there be much/any inductance?
7/8/2013 9:30:41 PM EDT
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In all honesty, you're probably OK with any small silicon diode with >36v reverse breakdown voltage and a dissipation rating >20W.  I typically use bidirectional TVS for motors, so I end up using varistors most of the time, and those are easier to size.
7/8/2013 9:32:59 PM EDT
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Am I missing something here? The heater element would be pretty much straight resistive, right? Why would there be much/any inductance?


A really long wirewound heater would have some small inductance, but probably not very much.  I'm actually surprised the SSR wants external protection for a load like that- they've usually got a lot built in.
7/8/2013 9:35:26 PM EDT
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Am I missing something here? The heater element would be pretty much straight resistive, right? Why would there be much/any inductance?


A really long wirewound heater would have some small inductance, but probably not very much.  I'm actually surprised the SSR wants external protection for a load like that- they've usually got a lot built in.

It's a Kapton element, so not wirewound, right?

My guess is you're good to go.
7/8/2013 9:42:35 PM EDT
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Am I missing something here? The heater element would be pretty much straight resistive, right? Why would there be much/any inductance?


A really long wirewound heater would have some small inductance, but probably not very much.  I'm actually surprised the SSR wants external protection for a load like that- they've usually got a lot built in.

It's a Kapton element, so not wirewound, right?

My guess is you're good to go.


Just looked up what these Kapton elements are.  OP, you shouldn't need any diode for one of those.
7/8/2013 10:35:04 PM EDT
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Am I missing something here? The heater element would be pretty much straight resistive, right? Why would there be much/any inductance?


A really long wirewound heater would have some small inductance, but probably not very much.  I'm actually surprised the SSR wants external protection for a load like that- they've usually got a lot built in.

It's a Kapton element, so not wirewound, right?

My guess is you're good to go.


Just looked up what these Kapton elements are.  OP, you shouldn't need any diode for one of those.


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