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7/5/2013 9:34:14 AM EDT
[#1]
In For The Train Wreck!
7/5/2013 9:35:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Oh, why not. It's a day off. In.

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7/5/2013 9:35:53 AM EDT
[#3]
Needs a poll for the number of locks, bans, timeouts, butt hurts, etc.
7/5/2013 9:42:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Raidmap

nice interactive raid map!



7/5/2013 9:43:03 AM EDT
[#5]
Is it Thursday already?  Actually considering the holiday, this might be proper timing.
7/5/2013 9:45:06 AM EDT
[#6]

It all started with cargo pockets.



John
7/5/2013 9:46:14 AM EDT
[#7]
Tip of the iceberg.
7/5/2013 9:46:37 AM EDT
[#8]
ABC "agents" are a special breed.

And they certainly aren't the "police".
7/5/2013 9:47:20 AM EDT
[#9]
That little underage b@#$* got alcohol, Craig!  We Top flight Security of the World, Craig!
7/5/2013 9:50:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Raidmap

nice interactive raid map!





Looks like I have to move the family to North Dakota.
7/5/2013 9:51:14 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Raidmap

nice interactive raid map!





CATO Institute is full of shit.  Why don't you just post a National Inquirer article along with it?





John
7/5/2013 9:56:19 AM EDT
[#12]
Is there a map for non-botched paramilitary police raids?



You know, to compare and contrast.
7/5/2013 9:56:36 AM EDT
[#13]
Yeah, this should get interesting.

And for all the 'isolated incidents', they do seem to be increasing, over the years.  As for equipment used?  As long as it's available for their fellow citizens, I really don't care what gear they (the police) have.  Now.  Where's the article on policy changes after the departments/agencies get their collective peckers slapped?
7/5/2013 10:01:35 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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Raidmap

nice interactive raid map!





CATO Institute is full of shit.  Why don't you just post a National Inquirer article along with it?

John


And what exactly makes them full of shit in reference to their map? They list their sources.
7/5/2013 10:03:08 AM EDT
[#15]
7/5/2013 10:04:16 AM EDT
[#16]
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That little underage b@#$* got alcohol, Craig!  We Top flight Security of the World, Craig!

"I got action !!!"
7/5/2013 10:09:16 AM EDT
[#17]



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Raidmap



nice interactive raid map!













 
7/5/2013 10:09:44 AM EDT
[#18]


Keep joking guys.  
When this shit happens to someone you care about, you will feel differently.
7/5/2013 10:10:07 AM EDT
[#19]



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Raidmap



nice interactive raid map!











CATO Institute is full of shit.  Why don't you just post a National Inquirer article along with it?



John




And what exactly makes them full of shit in reference to their map? They list their sources.


Their sources are crap, and the data they use is BS.
 
7/5/2013 10:14:52 AM EDT
[#20]
7/5/2013 10:15:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

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Raidmap

nice interactive raid map!





CATO Institute is full of shit.  Why don't you just post a National Inquirer article along with it?

John


And what exactly makes them full of shit in reference to their map? They list their sources.

Their sources are crap, and the data they use is BS.


 


This.

AND they write their own summery of the "raid" (whatever that is???) and spin it to their agenda.  Basically, the police are at fault for anything that goes wrong during a warrant no matter what the suspects action were.  Fucking stupid.



John
7/5/2013 10:23:55 AM EDT
[#22]
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Keep joking guys.  
When this shit happens to someone you care about, you will feel differently.


I already feel differently.

Where do I get in line for my turn to set these motherfuckers straight?
7/5/2013 10:27:04 AM EDT
[#23]
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Keep joking guys.  
When this shit happens to someone you care about, you will feel differently.


I already feel differently.

Where do I get in line for my turn to set these motherfuckers straight?


Go ahead, be the first to get in line.

This has now started to get good.
7/5/2013 10:29:24 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Is there a map for non-botched paramilitary police raids?



You know, to compare and contrast.

Yes, it contains 64 blank pages.

7/5/2013 10:33:31 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
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Is there a map for non-botched paramilitary police raids?



You know, to compare and contrast.

Yes, it contains 64 blank pages.



<redacted>
7/5/2013 10:35:08 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:

It all started with cargo pockets.

John


I blame MarPat.
7/5/2013 10:46:55 AM EDT
[#27]
So just looking through some of the "Botched Raids" map, and I see that according to the map the following would deem the raid "Botched":

1) not finding drugs
2) not finding weapons
3) not finding "enough" drugs or weapons
4) Looking through anything by "Rifleing"
5) If the person/suspect/resident has "no prior record of violence"
6) Anything gets broken
7) The resident is not home
8) EVERY SINGLE RAID involves people being "thrown"
9) If anyone gets a gun pointed at them
7/5/2013 11:03:16 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
So just looking through some of the "Botched Raids" map, and I see that according to the map the following would deem the raid "Botched":

1) not finding drugs
2) not finding weapons
3) not finding "enough" drugs or weapons
4) Looking through anything by "Rifleing"
5) If the person/suspect/resident has "no prior record of violence"
6) Anything gets broken
7) The resident is not home
8) EVERY SINGLE RAID involves people being "thrown"
9) If anyone gets a gun pointed at them


You forgot;

10) door being kicked in
11) harsh language being used
12) children at the location
13) children not at the location
14) only drug paraphernalia found
15) feelings hurt





John
7/5/2013 11:43:24 AM EDT
[#29]
I'm confused. Is it ok for the Police to be militarised at raids where they get it right, but not at ones where they get it wrong, or is this just a 'the Police shouldn't be militarised at all' thread?
7/5/2013 12:50:21 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Keep joking guys.  
When this shit happens to someone you care about, you will feel differently.

You'd have to wake my local cops up first.
7/5/2013 1:07:19 PM EDT
[#31]



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I'm confused. Is it ok for the Police to be militarised at raids where they get it right, but not at ones where they get it wrong, or is this just a 'the Police shouldn't be militarised at all' thread?


Yes

 
7/5/2013 1:30:38 PM EDT
[#32]
“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.” And how is this accomplished? By the global elite’s use of police that have pledged to “protect and serve” but instead “oppress and terrorize.”
Chris Hedges
7/5/2013 1:33:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
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Keep joking guys.  
When this shit happens to someone you care about, you will feel differently.

You'd have to wake my local cops up first.


What the fuck, man?!? It's safer when you leave them asleep!! You want the panic fire of a sleeping cop being awoke on your conscience?
7/5/2013 1:34:39 PM EDT
[#34]
7/5/2013 1:36:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.” And how is this accomplished? By the global elite’s use of police that have pledged to “protect and serve” but instead “oppress and terrorize.”
Chris Hedges


Good grief...Hedges?  Do you also wear Che t-shirts?
7/5/2013 1:38:26 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I'm confused. Is it ok for the Police to be militarised at raids where they get it right, but not at ones where they get it wrong, or is this just a 'the Police shouldn't be militarised at all' thread?


It doesn't really matter because at the end of the day it is about the militarisation of the old bill, so it's a train wreck regardless.
7/5/2013 1:40:46 PM EDT
[#37]
In
7/5/2013 1:44:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.” And how is this accomplished? By the global elite’s use of police that have pledged to “protect and serve” but instead “oppress and terrorize.”
Chris Hedges


Good grief...Hedges?  Do you also wear Che t-shirts?


I love how much of GD uses shit that could have come straight out of Karl Marx now.

But, no they have no red leanings at all!
7/5/2013 1:56:45 PM EDT
[#39]
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Raidmap

nice interactive raid map!





CATO Institute is full of shit.  Why don't you just post a National Inquirer article along with it?

John


And what exactly makes them full of shit in reference to their map? They list their sources.

Their sources are crap, and the data they use is BS.


 


This.

AND they write their own summery of the "raid" (whatever that is???) and spin it to their agenda.  Basically, the police are at fault for anything that goes wrong during a warrant no matter what the suspects action were.  Fucking stupid.



John



 I remember one of these raids in my state.  It was a major shit storm after video was shown on TV of the storm troopers and their GSD's making a raid on a high school.  
7/5/2013 3:05:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
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So just looking through some of the "Botched Raids" map, and I see that according to the map the following would deem the raid "Botched":

1) not finding drugs
2) not finding weapons
3) not finding "enough" drugs or weapons
4) Looking through anything by "Rifleing"
5) If the person/suspect/resident has "no prior record of violence"
6) Anything gets broken
7) The resident is not home
8) EVERY SINGLE RAID involves people being "thrown"
9) If anyone gets a gun pointed at them


You forgot;

10) door being kicked in
11) harsh language being used
12) children at the location
13) children not at the location
14) only drug paraphernalia found
15) feelings hurt





John


...and you forgot Dogs Shot!









7/5/2013 3:08:48 PM EDT
[#41]
Clearly, someone.............can't take a joke.

Aloha, Mark
7/5/2013 3:10:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Is this similar to the law enforcementization of the military?
7/5/2013 5:23:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
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Keep joking guys.  
When this shit happens to someone you care about, you will feel differently.

You'd have to wake my local cops up first.

What the fuck, man?!? It's safer when you leave them asleep!! You want the panic fire of a sleeping cop being awoke on your conscience?

Conscience?
7/5/2013 5:37:55 PM EDT
[#44]



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Raidmap



nice interactive raid map!











CATO Institute is full of shit.  Why don't you just post a National Inquirer article along with it?



John




And what exactly makes them full of shit in reference to their map? They list their sources.


Their sources are crap, and the data they use is BS.





 


You're right.  Total bullshit:


Title: Kathryn Johnston




Type: Death of an innocent.




State: GA




Description: Acting on a tip from a confidential informant,
police conduct a no-knock raid on the home of 88 year old Kathryn
Johnston.  Johnston, described by neighbors as feeble and afraid to open
her door at night, opens fire on officers as they burst into her home.
Three of the officers are wounded before Johnston is shot and killed.  
Relatives say that Johnston lived alone, and legally owned a gun because
she was fearful of intruders. She lived in the home for 17 years.
Police claim that they find a small amount of marijuana in Johnston's
home, but none of the cocaine, computers, money, or equipment described
in the affidavit that was used to obtain a warrant.  There are now
allegations of a police cover-up.  Developing... Source Shaila Dewan and
Brenda Goodman, "Atlanta Officers Suspended in Inquiry on Killing in
Raid " The New York Times, November 28, 2006.




Date: Nov 21, 2006
This shit either never happened, or is blatantly spun to fit an agenda...
 
7/5/2013 5:44:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Another gay thread?
7/5/2013 5:48:20 PM EDT
[#46]
Raidmap.gif

RadleyBalko.doc

cargopocketssuck.jpg


Did I miss anything?
7/5/2013 5:54:59 PM EDT
[#47]
When will you people get it.  The police can do no wrong, never, no matter what happens.  They are the only class of people more protected than homo's.
7/5/2013 6:10:17 PM EDT
[#48]
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When will you people get it.  The police can do no wrong, never, no matter what happens.  They are the only class of people more protected than homo's.


Gay policemen must really have it made.
7/5/2013 6:22:47 PM EDT
[#49]
Anyone got a link to Botched Bounty Hunter Raids map?
7/5/2013 6:25:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Fuck, I thought the thread was titled the Miniaturization of Police

 











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