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6/28/2013 5:33:19 AM EDT
The Mrs. had her recruiting package accepted and it looks like we will be moving next year.

She got a list of available locations around CONUS, and there are quite a few (about 126 if I counted right).  There are 23 available offices throughout CA, NY, NJ, and CO.  Those were immediately ruled out.

She has been advised by a SNCO mentor of hers to select a major city, as it will give her more opportunity for success and progression.  I am perfectly fine with this as I may have to find a school in the area to finish my last semester or 2 of college, and then find a big boy career/job.

All that said, gun laws and the ability to shoot at nice ranges (while also potentially connecting with some ARFCOMMERS) is one of my top priorities.  Here are what we pulled as places we would be most interested in going:

-Greensboro, NC
-Phoenix, AZ
-Glendale, AZ
-Jacksonville, FL
-Knoxville, TN
-College Station, TX
-Frisco, TX


There are many others on the list, but these are what we've come up with thus far.  She needs to submit her Dream Sheet ASAP, so I'm reaching out in hopes to get some individual opinions from people who have been to these areas.  Now, for you mil guys, she does have a BOP but I'm not sure how that works when it comes to being a recruiter.  I'm also not sure if priority is given based on rank/TIG/TIS.  

Anyway, thanks for your input
6/28/2013 5:35:38 AM EDT
[#1]
I currently work in Jax, live in GA; ask away.
6/28/2013 5:38:33 AM EDT
[#2]
How long you will be in this location? For example, College Station is currently pretty nice, but what will happen there and on the other border states if a general amnesty for illegals is passed?
6/28/2013 5:38:58 AM EDT
[#3]
College Station or Frisco.
6/28/2013 5:45:32 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
College Station or Frisco.


Frisco is basically part of Dallas/Fort Worth, and fulfills the "big city" component. Dallas/Fort Worth is in the Bible Belt, so you may encounter things you aren't used to from the rest of Texas like dry counties and needing to join a "private club" in order to have a beer in a restaurant. There are several handgun ranges in Dallas and west of town you can find longer range rifle ranges.

College Station is a much smaller town but isn't that far from Houston by Texas standards (85+ miles). There was pretty much only one range when I lived there in college.

ETA: College Station and Frisco both get enough regular heavy winds and heavy rains that hurricanes heading up from the Gulf shouldn't be an issue. (The regular winds and rains, in conjunction with the power company) keep any weak branches, etc down, so you don't have trees and stuff falling over and hitting power lines.)

Dallas will get colder--think one or two deep freezes a year, compared to College Station.
6/28/2013 5:46:12 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I currently work in Jax, live in GA; ask away.


Here's all of the GA and FL listings:

-Albany, GA
-Brunswick, GA
-Centerville, GA
-Columbus, GA
-Marietta, GA
-Valdosta, GA

and aside from Jacksonville in FL, there's Pace and Titusville.


I wouldn't be at all opposed to moving to Georgia, either.  As an aside..........Georgia has a lot of city names the same as Ohio.
6/28/2013 5:49:52 AM EDT
[#6]
College station.     Frisco would be nice nice, but it costs $$$
6/28/2013 5:50:03 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
How long you will be in this location? For example, College Station is currently pretty nice, but what will happen there and on the other border states if a general amnesty for illegals is passed?


They are 4 year assignments.  She will have about 6 years left before hitting 20 once we get there.  If we like it, we may extend until she finishes.  If not, we'll likely move one more time.
6/28/2013 5:50:07 AM EDT
[#8]
The tried area of NC is ok, (Greensboro/Winston-Salam)High Point.) NC is a peculiar state, it's in some areas very, very blue but most of the state is Red. Of the list you gave, I'd say College Station TX but I've never been to Frisco, TX so take that for what it's worth. If I were going to move to anywhere, TX would be it.
6/28/2013 5:53:00 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I currently work in Jax, live in GA; ask away.


Here's all of the GA and FL listings:

-Albany, GA
-Brunswick, GA
-Centerville, GA
-Columbus, GA
-Marietta, GA
-Valdosta, GA

and aside from Jacksonville in FL, there's Pace and Titusville.


I wouldn't be at all opposed to moving to Georgia, either.  As an aside..........Georgia has a lot of city names the same as Ohio.


Of that list, Brunswick or Marietta would be the choice. Bruswick is very close to Savannah and the coast which is quite nice; Marietta is in the Atlanta area and if you get into the right suburb it's a nice area.
6/28/2013 5:55:55 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
College Station or Frisco.


I think I'm most interested in moving to TX.  Here's the other TX locations:

-Abilene
-Amarillo
-Arlington
-College Station
-El Paso
-Frisco
-League City
-McAllen
-Odessa
-Rosenberg
-San Angelo
-San Antonio
-Tyler
-Waco

We wouldn't dread having to live in San Antonio, but we've both already been there before and the whole area seemed to just revolve around the river walk, in regards to stuff to do.  Plus, I'll probably get sick of all of those basic training kids real quick.  But I know there's a lot of you mouth breathing basement dwellers out there, and I want come hang out in your dungeons.


ETA: Arlington, El Paso, McAllen, Odessa, San Angelo and Waco all have a note of "Spanish speaking highly desired."  There's other places that it's a requirement, but none that I listed thus far.  It's pretty BS, IMO.  Someone is trying to join the US military.  If they can't go to the recruiter and speak English, they should immediately be disqualified.  I don't know of any job in any branch of the US mil where you don't have to know how to speak English.  English as your second, third, fourth, fifth, etc language?  Sure, come on down.  Can't speak English at all?  Goodbye.  I served with a few South Koreans who opted for the US mil instead of the mandatory 2 years with their military.  My Wife's parents are both from PI and her dad retired after 20 in the Navy, and now decommissions ships in Hawaii.  All of them spoke English fluently as their second language.  The Spanish speaking recruiter requirement/desire is utter BS.
6/28/2013 6:01:01 AM EDT
[#11]
What service?
6/28/2013 6:03:25 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
What service?


The force of the chair.

But that sort of doesn't matter since its recruiting.
6/28/2013 6:04:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Of that list, I'd consider TN, then NC first.

I like mountains and green.
6/28/2013 6:07:02 AM EDT
[#14]
I would pick the TN office.  People are real nice around that area.
6/28/2013 6:10:50 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What service?


The force of the chair.

But that sort of doesn't matter since its recruiting.


Roger that, any preference to being in the vicinity of a base? If you could get Titusville and live at Patrick AFB, to me that would be the dream assignment.

Jacksonville and Atlanta offer the big city stuff, ATL more of course. Jax offers a shit load of saltwater activities.
6/28/2013 6:12:09 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I would pick the TN office.  People are real nice around that area.


She had to attend NCOA (Non Commissioned Officer Academy) in TN and she really liked the state.  I still have great grandparents that live in Cleveland, TN, and have also been to the Smoky Mountains a few times.  Plus, it's not too far from home (Cleveland, OH).
6/28/2013 6:14:31 AM EDT
[#17]
TN is very nice also, we lived in west TN for three years and liked it very much. Have spent time in east TN and like it even more.
6/28/2013 6:14:44 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
What service?


The force of the chair.

But that sort of doesn't matter since its recruiting.


Roger that, any preference to being in the vicinity of a base? If you could get Titusville and live at Patrick AFB, to me that would be the dream assignment.

Jacksonville and Atlanta offer the big city stuff, ATL more of course. Jax offers a shit load of saltwater activities.


Well, since I am now retired after an MEB, a Join Spouse assignment isn't necessary so we don't need to worry about being near a base.  



ETA:  I just checked and Titusville is available............but REQUIRES that she speak Spanish.  Fucking bullshit.
6/28/2013 6:25:13 AM EDT
[#19]
Knoxville.....





Only because Nashville isn't on the list.

6/28/2013 6:30:45 AM EDT
[#20]
TN is a nice place, and I am a Texan. Gun laws arent a problem here at all.
6/28/2013 6:37:13 AM EDT
[#21]
Tyler is a good compromise.  Out in the country, so living expenses are down, 97.7 miles to Dallas, 97.7 miles to Shreveport.

EDIT_ I know Tyler has almost 100,000 people in it so it's not REALLY country, but it is a hell of a lot more country than Dallas.
6/28/2013 7:10:24 AM EDT
[#22]
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TN is a nice place, and I am a Texan. Gun laws arent a problem here at all.


Yea, I like it there.

Good ranges, property around to go shoot?
6/28/2013 7:15:49 AM EDT
[#23]
I think there's a 1000 yard range in Oak Ridge, but there is a very nice range in Cookeville that is run by a precision-rifle instructor that looks very nice. Check out the TN Hometown forum for further info, as I don't feel like digging right now.
6/28/2013 7:21:22 AM EDT
[#24]
I'd choose Greensboro.  I like vegetation and mountains.

But NC is a weird state.

Knoxville would be choice 2.
6/28/2013 7:22:34 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
I think there's a 1000 yard range in Oak Ridge, but there is a very nice range in Cookeville that is run by a precision-rifle instructor that looks very nice. Check out the TN Hometown forum for further info, as I don't feel like digging right now.


LOL and you don't have to.  You're right, I should have head on over to those HTF's already.  I've just been so busy at work, I can only really grab a couple of minutes every hour to refresh this thread and comment.

It's been a busy summer thus far.  My ARFCOM time has suffered and I am not happy about it.
6/28/2013 7:23:27 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I'd choose Greensboro.  I like vegetation and mountains.

But NC is a weird state.

Knoxville would be choice 2.


My Mom seems to like Greensboro as our best option.
6/28/2013 7:33:46 AM EDT
[#27]
Having grown up in Marietta, GA I have lots of good memories but like any metro Atlanta town it has changed a good bit. If you go to look around you will want to live in East Cobb County or West Cobb County (Marietta is the county seat) These are the nicer areas and East Cobb wins hands down for access to I-75, aka how to get to Atlanta. All of the other cities you listed for Georgia are south of the gnat line. Do you know what a gnat is?? These are small flying insects that get right up in your face, fly in your nose and mouth and every now and then land in your eye. Some people get used to them and some people go crazy. When looking at a map of GA the gnat line runs from Columbus, east to Macon and then over to Savannah. Hope this helps
6/28/2013 11:47:50 AM EDT
[#28]
Knoxville for sure. Just for the 4-seasons climate and the educational opportunities you can have available.  The question would simply be where to look to settle that would be convenient for both of you as well as not an urban problems area.
6/28/2013 11:50:14 AM EDT
[#29]
Frisco, Texas.
DO IT!!!!

You won't regret it.
6/28/2013 12:38:12 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Frisco, Texas.
DO IT!!!!

You won't regret it.


Would we be able to play tummy sticks?
6/28/2013 12:41:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Come to the west side! Glendale,Az born and raised! Even if she works in Phoenix live in Glendale! I live in Glendale and work in Scottsdale.
6/28/2013 1:40:35 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Frisco, Texas.
DO IT!!!!

You won't regret it.


Would we be able to play tummy sticks?


I live in Plano, very close.
Lot's of ARFCOMers here.

And Remember!!!! ARFCOM is moving here to this part of Texas.
6/28/2013 1:45:13 PM EDT
[#33]
of those choices I'd go with either TN or TX

I spent five and a half years at Dyess in Abilene TX. Texas isn't a bad place, save for Wichita Falls and Arlington
6/28/2013 2:23:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Phoenix Az is a good place to be in general, and is a very big city.

good conservative/borderline libertarian state, and its probably one of the most free states in the union.

You can shoot anywhere out here, and I mean anywhere.

Weather is perfect all but 3 months of the year, and cool temps in the summer are only 2 hours away.

constitutional carry, and 2nd only to Utah in gun laws (No CCW on college campus)

If you have any questions about AZ feel free to ask.

6/28/2013 6:00:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Frisco, Texas.
DO IT!!!!

You won't regret it.


Would we be able to play tummy sticks?


I live in Plano, very close.
Lot's of ARFCOMers here.

And Remember!!!! ARFCOM is moving here to this part of Texas.


My Mother has been looking up places and augmenting my research.  She told me that Frisco was voted top city in the country or something.  Sounds nice there.  Not too far from Houston, which I have a few buddies there.
6/28/2013 6:07:40 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Frisco, Texas.
DO IT!!!!

You won't regret it.


Would we be able to play tummy sticks?


I live in Plano, very close.
Lot's of ARFCOMers here.

And Remember!!!! ARFCOM is moving here to this part of Texas.


My Mother has been looking up places and augmenting my research.  She told me that Frisco was voted top city in the country or something.  Sounds nice there.  Not too far from Houston, which I have a few buddies there.


It may be the highest income for any city under 50k stat she is referring to. It's a good town. My friend's dad is the city manager.

Tenn. ain't a bad choice either. Gun la
Gun laws are better and probably more places to shoot.

Our BBQ is better.
If y'all  get out here, post in TXHTF,  you will get a nice ARF welcome, we'll make sure.
6/28/2013 6:08:04 PM EDT
[#37]
California
6/28/2013 6:44:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
California


6/28/2013 6:45:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Frisco, Texas.
DO IT!!!!

You won't regret it.


Would we be able to play tummy sticks?


I live in Plano, very close.
Lot's of ARFCOMers here.

And Remember!!!! ARFCOM is moving here to this part of Texas.


My Mother has been looking up places and augmenting my research.  She told me that Frisco was voted top city in the country or something.  Sounds nice there.  Not too far from Houston, which I have a few buddies there.


It may be the highest income for any city under 50k stat she is referring to. It's a good town. My friend's dad is the city manager.

Tenn. ain't a bad choice either. Gun la
Gun laws are better and probably more places to shoot.

Our BBQ is better.
If y'all  get out here, post in TXHTF,  you will get a nice ARF welcome, we'll make sure.


Yup, that sounds about right.


Thank you very much.  That would be awesome.  I would love to come there and link up with the TX crew.
6/28/2013 6:51:33 PM EDT
[#40]
If you move to Centerville, GA, I'll buy you a beer. But I wouldn't say I recommend the town.

FL or AZ of your original locations listed.

Georgia is a 2A friendly state though, so I wouldn't cross it off your list.
6/28/2013 9:58:42 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
College Station or Frisco.


I think I'm most interested in moving to TX.  Here's the other TX locations:

-Abilene
-Amarillo
-Arlington
-College Station
-El Paso
-Frisco
-League City
-McAllen
-Odessa
-Rosenberg
-San Angelo
-San Antonio
-Tyler
-Waco

We wouldn't dread having to live in San Antonio, but we've both already been there before and the whole area seemed to just revolve around the river walk, in regards to stuff to do.  Plus, I'll probably get sick of all of those basic training kids real quick.  But I know there's a lot of you mouth breathing basement dwellers out there, and I want come hang out in your dungeons.


ETA: Arlington, El Paso, McAllen, Odessa, San Angelo and Waco all have a note of "Spanish speaking highly desired."  There's other places that it's a requirement, but none that I listed thus far.  It's pretty BS, IMO.  Someone is trying to join the US military.  If they can't go to the recruiter and speak English, they should immediately be disqualified.  I don't know of any job in any branch of the US mil where you don't have to know how to speak English.  English as your second, third, fourth, fifth, etc language?  Sure, come on down.  Can't speak English at all?  Goodbye.  I served with a few South Koreans who opted for the US mil instead of the mandatory 2 years with their military.  My Wife's parents are both from PI and her dad retired after 20 in the Navy, and now decommissions ships in Hawaii.  All of them spoke English fluently as their second language.  The Spanish speaking recruiter requirement/desire is utter BS.


I think the Spanish speaking may be intended toward conversing with the parents of the recruits moreso than the recruits themselves.

FWIW I would do Frisco, TX or AZ
7/1/2013 5:18:58 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
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College Station or Frisco.


I think I'm most interested in moving to TX.  Here's the other TX locations:

-Abilene
-Amarillo
-Arlington
-College Station
-El Paso
-Frisco
-League City
-McAllen
-Odessa
-Rosenberg
-San Angelo
-San Antonio
-Tyler
-Waco

We wouldn't dread having to live in San Antonio, but we've both already been there before and the whole area seemed to just revolve around the river walk, in regards to stuff to do.  Plus, I'll probably get sick of all of those basic training kids real quick.  But I know there's a lot of you mouth breathing basement dwellers out there, and I want come hang out in your dungeons.


ETA: Arlington, El Paso, McAllen, Odessa, San Angelo and Waco all have a note of "Spanish speaking highly desired."  There's other places that it's a requirement, but none that I listed thus far.  It's pretty BS, IMO.  Someone is trying to join the US military.  If they can't go to the recruiter and speak English, they should immediately be disqualified.  I don't know of any job in any branch of the US mil where you don't have to know how to speak English.  English as your second, third, fourth, fifth, etc language?  Sure, come on down.  Can't speak English at all?  Goodbye.  I served with a few South Koreans who opted for the US mil instead of the mandatory 2 years with their military.  My Wife's parents are both from PI and her dad retired after 20 in the Navy, and now decommissions ships in Hawaii.  All of them spoke English fluently as their second language.  The Spanish speaking recruiter requirement/desire is utter BS.


I think the Spanish speaking may be intended toward conversing with the parents of the recruits moreso than the recruits themselves.

FWIW I would do Frisco, TX or AZ


You're probably right.