[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Cyclists (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 6/9/2013 9:27:19 AM EDT
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Do they piss you off?? It's a real problem in Colorado. I fucking hate these ass holes that take up the whole road, don't signal, don't stop at lights and stop signs..... They seriously think they are something special. I come from the thought that roads are for motor vehicles with insurance, that pay taxes.
I know when I was a little kid, before I left on my bike my parents would say "watch out for cars". I seriously wonder if a cyclist would tell there kid "get in the way of as many cars as possible and try to get hit" Rant over. |
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I find that here in CO there are two kinds of cyclists: courteous ones and morons.
The morons are the ones that you will find on any number of the canyon roads thinking they own the road. Riding two-four abreast around blind curves (not on the side of the road, either), riding in the middle of lanes, not moving over when cars go to pass, moving farther into the lane when cars go to pass, etc. Those kinda bikers tick me off. But the courteous ones don't bother me at all. Like the ones who ride up 36 outside of Boulder towards Lyons. Those folks are usually great. |
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What really pisses me off Is when you crest over a hill and they are right there in the middle of the road. Slam on the brakes and hope you don't wreck. FU Just to play devil's advocate, what if it was a disabled vehicle or a wreck over the crest? Wouldn't it be prudent to slow down if you can't see? |
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You know what pisses me off? Drivers who think that cyclists don't pay for anything. Yep, there are some dick cyclists who epitomize what you posted and as a cyclist myself I hate those people. But most of us are just really trying to not be killed by the @ssclowns who think they own the road. Just because I'm on my bike doesn't mean I don't have a car at home that I drive to/from work and run errands in...which requires gas & insurance & registration.
Oh and roads were initially paved for cyclists...not cars. 
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Roads are for transportation. Bicycles are legal means of transportation. Road taxes, insurance, registration and licenses all followed the advent of motor vehicles because of the costs associated with the motor vehicle. There are limited access highways etc where bicycle traffic is prohibited BUT they must provide parallel roads where bicycle traffic is legal. True, there are asshole cyclists out there. But far many more asshole motorists. |
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I've not seen one single cyclist in The Austin area obey traffic laws while "sharing the road". The only time I've seen them put their fancy pedal shies on pavement is when they were forced to stop for traffic at an intersection of two highways.
I don't believe they're all that way. I've just never seen one behave any differently. I'm fine with ignoring them completely, however they seem intent on making traffic worse on purpose. I truly don't understand the cult of personality of cycling. |
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I find that here in CO there are two kinds of cyclists: courteous ones and morons. The morons are the ones that you will find on any number of the canyon roads thinking they own the road. Riding two-four abreast around blind curves (not on the side of the road, either), riding in the middle of lanes, not moving over when cars go to pass, moving farther into the lane when cars go to pass, etc. Those kinda bikers tick me off. But the courteous ones don't bother me at all. Like the ones who ride up 36 outside of Boulder towards Lyons. Those folks are usually great. I am not familiar with CO law, but two-abreast is legal in AZ (not always smart, but legal). Also, we will ride in the middle of the lane when it isn't safe and we are trying to prevent people from passing. There's some areas I ride that are curvy and don't have a shoulder, in those cases I will move over so I don't end up with idiots who want to pass me with oncoming traffic. (Like when some idiot decided that I wasn't descending a mountain fast enough - I was doing 35 - and that it would be brilliant to pass me with a car coming and no real shoulder for me to swerve to. If the cyclists are holding you up for more than a few seconds, then either there is a reason or they are your morons. |
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I find that here in CO there are two kinds of cyclists: courteous ones and morons. The morons are the ones that you will find on any number of the canyon roads thinking they own the road. Riding two-four abreast around blind curves (not on the side of the road, either), riding in the middle of lanes, not moving over when cars go to pass, moving farther into the lane when cars go to pass, etc. Those kinda bikers tick me off. But the courteous ones don't bother me at all. Like the ones who ride up 36 outside of Boulder towards Lyons. Those folks are usually great. I am not familiar with CO law, but two-abreast is legal in AZ (not always smart, but legal). Also, we will ride in the middle of the lane when it isn't safe and we are trying to prevent people from passing. There's some areas I ride that are curvy and don't have a shoulder, in those cases I will move over so I don't end up with idiots who want to pass me with oncoming traffic. (Like when some idiot decided that I wasn't descending a mountain fast enough - I was doing 35 - and that it would be brilliant to pass me with a car coming and no real shoulder for me to swerve to. If the cyclists are holding you up for more than a few seconds, then either there is a reason or they are your morons. The canyons I am talking about have specific rules that cyclists are not allowed to ride two-abreast around curves. Only in the straightaways. |
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I find that here in CO there are two kinds of cyclists: courteous ones and morons. The morons are the ones that you will find on any number of the canyon roads thinking they own the road. Riding two-four abreast around blind curves (not on the side of the road, either), riding in the middle of lanes, not moving over when cars go to pass, moving farther into the lane when cars go to pass, etc. Those kinda bikers tick me off. But the courteous ones don't bother me at all. Like the ones who ride up 36 outside of Boulder towards Lyons. Those folks are usually great. I am not familiar with CO law, but two-abreast is legal in AZ (not always smart, but legal). Also, we will ride in the middle of the lane when it isn't safe and we are trying to prevent people from passing. There's some areas I ride that are curvy and don't have a shoulder, in those cases I will move over so I don't end up with idiots who want to pass me with oncoming traffic. (Like when some idiot decided that I wasn't descending a mountain fast enough - I was doing 35 - and that it would be brilliant to pass me with a car coming and no real shoulder for me to swerve to. If the cyclists are holding you up for more than a few seconds, then either there is a reason or they are your morons. The canyons I am talking about have specific rules that cyclists are not allowed to ride two-abreast around curves. Only in the straightaways. In that case, they are stupid 
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Roads are for transportation. Bicycles are legal means of transportation. Road taxes, insurance, registration and licenses all followed the advent of motor vehicles because of the costs associated with the motor vehicle. There are limited access highways etc where bicycle traffic is prohibited BUT they must provide parallel roads where bicycle traffic is legal. True, there are asshole cyclists out there. But far many more asshole motorists. Why do I have to register a trailer then? It's not a motor vehicle. Most of the cyclists in this area are good folks, I find the country riders are more aware of what is going on around them, and accommodate the situation as best possible. Downtown is a whole different experience however. They just don't give a flip what is going on, and it's almost like the are trying to get a payout somehow. Perhaps it's the reduced speeds of the cars or something. |
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Well my tax dollars pay for hundreds of miles of bike trails throughout the city of Denver. Most of the time they are empty. I cannot get to work on time because because I am stuck behind a biker brigade 5 bikes wide with no room to pass, so all I can do is stare at there spandex and coexist shirt.
Really annoying. I wonder what would happen if I drove my truck on the bike trails? We have to share with the bikes but they don't share with us! |
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I find that here in CO there are two kinds of cyclists: courteous ones and morons. The morons are the ones that you will find on any number of the canyon roads thinking they own the road. Riding two-four abreast around blind curves (not on the side of the road, either), riding in the middle of lanes, not moving over when cars go to pass, moving farther into the lane when cars go to pass, etc. Those kinda bikers tick me off. But the courteous ones don't bother me at all. Like the ones who ride up 36 outside of Boulder towards Lyons. Those folks are usually great. This is completely intentional and done to make themselves "appear bigger" and "force motorists to move over." It's passive-aggressive bullshit and dangerous. |
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Quoted: Well my tax dollars pay for hundreds of miles of bike trails throughout the city of Denver. Most of the time they are empty. I cannot get to work on time because because I am stuck behind a biker brigade 5 bikes wide with no room to pass, so all I can do is stare at there spandex and coexist shirt. Really annoying. I wonder what would happen if I drove my truck on the bike trails? We have to share with the bikes but they don't share with us! I never see cyclists like you describe, around here most cyclists are considerate of other road users and obey traffic laws. I think cyclists are a lot like open carriers - a small minority give the majority a bad reputation.
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I find that here in CO there are two kinds of cyclists: courteous ones and morons. The morons are the ones that you will find on any number of the canyon roads thinking they own the road. Riding two-four abreast around blind curves (not on the side of the road, either), riding in the middle of lanes, not moving over when cars go to pass, moving farther into the lane when cars go to pass, etc. Those kinda bikers tick me off. But the courteous ones don't bother me at all. Like the ones who ride up 36 outside of Boulder towards Lyons. Those folks are usually great. Same thing goes for drivers... people in general. |
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In Chicago they recently passed an ordinance to increase fines on cyclists who break traffic laws (just about all of them). It would be great if they would actually enforce it. They really do need the revenue. So you'd rather have police enforce minor traffic laws instead of doing quality police work? |
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Certain groups are using terror tactics of mass civil disobedience of the rules of the road. They will claim they are just getting back at cagers who treat them like slalom poles but we all know how well revenge works... Watch your six either way. I've heard exactly that sentiment quite often from the cycling activist I have to work with. |
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cyclists believe that they have the right of way in every situation.
most of them are self-righteous cunts. i've been hit on the sidewalk as a pedestrian by a cyclist. i've been hit in my car standing still by a cyclist. they have a "three feet" slogan i.e. they demand three feet of space from passing motorists, but they never extend the courtesy back. i'm sick of the fuckers hanging off my bumper and swarming around me (yes they travel in packs) while i am driving in the city. they intentionally delay motorist traffic to show how clever they are. anyone who defends cyclists is a communist asshole. |
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whatever.
I burned well over a thousand calories in 2 hours yesterday. Get off your phone, cager
Most bike paths suck and wind all over the place. Sidewalks are not for bikes, except little kids moving at a snail's pace. It's really quite simple if everyone follows the rules of the road and extends some common courtesy. Try getting stuck behind a tractor instead. |
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Quoted: I've not seen one single cyclist in The Austin area obey traffic laws while "sharing the road". The only time I've seen them put their fancy pedal shies on pavement is when they were forced to stop for traffic at an intersection of two highways. I don't believe they're all that way. I've just never seen one behave any differently. I'm fine with ignoring them completely, however they seem intent on making traffic worse on purpose. I truly don't understand the cult of personality of cycling. I see these signs all over Texas that say "share the road" with pictures of motorcycles on them. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Roads are for transportation. Bicycles are legal means of transportation. Road taxes, insurance, registration and licenses all followed the advent of motor vehicles because of the costs associated with the motor vehicle. There are limited access highways etc where bicycle traffic is prohibited BUT they must provide parallel roads where bicycle traffic is legal. True, there are asshole cyclists out there. But far many more asshole motorists. Why do I have to register a trailer then? It's not a motor vehicle. Most of the cyclists in this area are good folks, I find the country riders are more aware of what is going on around them, and accommodate the situation as best possible. Downtown is a whole different experience however. They just don't give a flip what is going on, and it's almost like the are trying to get a payout somehow. Perhaps it's the reduced speeds of the cars or something. Because every single trailer tugger I saw this weekend couldn't keep their towed wheels inside the lines. Three trailers had completely non-operational lights and the trailer completely masked the towing vehicle's lights. Then they take out curbs because they don't know how to pull a trailer...  |
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Quoted: Well my tax dollars pay for hundreds of miles of bike trails throughout the city of Denver. Most of the time they are empty. I cannot get to work on time because because I am stuck behind a biker brigade 5 bikes wide with no room to pass, so all I can do is stare at there spandex and coexist shirt. Really annoying. I wonder what would happen if I drove my truck on the bike trails? We have to share with the bikes but they don't share with us! I suspect you'd have a "I cannot get to work on time" excuse if you worked on a cruise ship or the space station. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I find that here in CO there are two kinds of cyclists: courteous ones and morons. The morons are the ones that you will find on any number of the canyon roads thinking they own the road. Riding two-four abreast around blind curves (not on the side of the road, either), riding in the middle of lanes, not moving over when cars go to pass, moving farther into the lane when cars go to pass, etc. Those kinda bikers tick me off. But the courteous ones don't bother me at all. Like the ones who ride up 36 outside of Boulder towards Lyons. Those folks are usually great. This is completely intentional and done to make themselves "appear bigger" and "force motorists to move over." It's passive-aggressive bullshit and dangerous. It's done to make themselves visible so idiots don't run them over. Motorcyclists do the same thing. |
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Have you ever seen Portandia? It's hilarious. The entire show is just making fun of hipsters. "Portland, the place where 25 year olds go to retire." |
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I was vacationing in Brazil once and lost my shit. Someone caught it on video.
http://youtu.be/V3nMnr8ZirI |
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Quoted: I love it when some guy pulling a popup camper with a SUV decides he has to swing out into oncoming traffic to make a right turn, especially when I'm that oncoming traffic. You can easily kill innocent people fucking around with a trailer. You'll have a harder time on a goddamn bicycle. Quoted: Quoted: Roads are for transportation. Bicycles are legal means of transportation. Road taxes, insurance, registration and licenses all followed the advent of motor vehicles because of the costs associated with the motor vehicle. There are limited access highways etc where bicycle traffic is prohibited BUT they must provide parallel roads where bicycle traffic is legal. True, there are asshole cyclists out there. But far many more asshole motorists. Why do I have to register a trailer then? It's not a motor vehicle. Most of the cyclists in this area are good folks, I find the country riders are more aware of what is going on around them, and accommodate the situation as best possible. Downtown is a whole different experience however. They just don't give a flip what is going on, and it's almost like the are trying to get a payout somehow. Perhaps it's the reduced speeds of the cars or something. Because every single trailer tugger I saw this weekend couldn't keep their towed wheels inside the lines. Three trailers had completely non-operational lights and the trailer completely masked the towing vehicle's lights. Then they take out curbs because they don't know how to pull a trailer... |
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It drives me nuts when they are not respectful of the motorists around them or the rules of the road.
My father is a cyclist, 30 miles a day, 100 miles once a month. He is entirely lawful, stays on the side of the road, signals, gets in a lane at intersections and waits for green lights or his turn at the stop sign etc. So I try to keep an open mind. Ill tell ya though; he got wailed one day by a car moving 40mph, head on while he was going ~30mph. he went into the windshield and then up and over the car. Lifestar heli ride to the hospital, critical condition for 2 days, 30" lacerations, head injuries, the full nine. No matter how mad I get at cyclists, I would have killed the bitch that hit him if I were there to see it. . . . Share the road gentleman. ETA: I fucking HATE when they dont get in single file, like when theyre riding next to each other. Ive pulled up to a pair of cyclists riding like that more than once and had a less than friendly conversation at 30mph. When a giant ass pick up truck pulls up next to you and starts yelling "Single file you stupid mother fuckers", they tend to listen to you pretty quickly. |