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Posted: 5/29/2013 6:14:59 PM EDT
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The nurse practitioner at my cardiologist's office says I should eat about 60 grams of protein a day. The guys at my cardiac workout say you need a gram for every pound of body weight.
Following that reasoning I would need 187 grams of protein a day, seems like a hell of a lot. What do you think? |
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it depends on how much you're working out, specifically weightlifting. if you're not tearing the muscle fibers regularly (in a good, growth-oriented way), you don't need the 1 per pound, but 60 is far too low for anyone who is doing anything, imo...
basically, if you need to repair tissue, you need more protein. ETA: it also depends on how your body responds to different macronutrient mixes... I feel best when my carbs and protein are about equal, and my fat is fairly high... when my carbs are much higher than my protein, or I have a low-fat day, I feel like crap. some people do well on 60% carbs, some on 30%. the best thing you can do is know your own body... |
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Excess protein consumption is bad for your livers and kidneys. A gram per pound of body weight is excessive protein for anyone, including competitive bodybuilders. No. http://www.biolayne.com/uncategorized/myths-surrounding-high-protein-diet-safety/ |
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The nurse practitioner at my cardiologist's office says I should eat about 60 grams of protein a day. The guys at my cardiac workout say you need a gram for every pound of body weight. Following that reasoning I would need 187 grams of protein a day, seems like a hell of a lot. What do you think? Do you lift weights? Either way your diet needs a balance of protein/carbs/fat in around a 40/40/20 ratio (depending on your goals and needs) One gram of protein per lean pound of body weight is not excessive if you are lifting. |
| 30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. Wrong again. http://youtu.be/mjmV8BlsJTQ |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. No, it just takes longer for the body to digest it. Its not simply wasted by the body.... |
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Excess protein consumption is bad for your livers and kidneys. A gram per pound of body weight is excessive protein for anyone, including competitive bodybuilders. Buuu, buuu, BULLSHIT. Sustainability is a consideration, people on roids or on endless supplement cycles have different needs and those needs are artificially high. That aside maintaining gram per-pound day in day out is very hard to do. |
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The nurse practitioner at my cardiologist's office says I should eat about 60 grams of protein a day. The guys at my cardiac workout say you need a gram for every pound of body weight. Following that reasoning I would need 187 grams of protein a day, seems like a hell of a lot. What do you think? 
Working out, whatever the workout may be, breaks down tissues. Protein intake is how the body repairs those tissues damaged by exercise. 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body weight is going to ensure you don't lose muscle and may be a bit overkill in the protein department in terms of maintenance of existing muscle mass. If you're going for hypertrophy I think something like 1.5-1.8/lb lean body weight per day is going to work for you. High protein diets also may have some positive impact on metabolism and shedding excess adipose. |
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Excess protein consumption is bad for your livers and kidneys. A gram per pound of body weight is excessive protein for anyone, including competitive bodybuilders. Buuu, buuu, BULLSHIT. Sustainability is a consideration, people on roids or on endless supplement cycles have different needs and those needs are artificially high. That aside maintaining gram per-pound day in day out is very hard to do. No really... You put food in front of you and eat it. I do it everyday. Eggs, fish, beef, pork, turkey, venison, chicken. Its pretty damn easy to get 200+ grams of protein. |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. Wrong again. http://youtu.be/mjmV8BlsJTQ Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. Within 2 minutes he said maximizing anabolic response plateaus for average males is 30-40 grams per sitting. |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. Wrong again. http://youtu.be/mjmV8BlsJTQ Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. He has a doctorate. |
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The gram per lb is a bodybuilding rule of thumb when you're beating your muscles down like crazy and trying to add muscle mass. If you've got a cardiologist and go to the gym for cardio, 60 probably fills your needs. FPNI For the average workout 60-80 grams a day is about right. |
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Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. PHD in nutritional sciences who did his dissertation work studying protein synthesis. Considered one of the world's leading experts in protein synthesis. I'm thinking he knows what he's talking about. As for selling, he isn't selling anything. He makes his money as a coach setting up personalized nutrition and workout plans for competitors. |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. Wrong again. http://youtu.be/mjmV8BlsJTQ Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. He has a Ph.D. 
Isn't his PhD in something like protein synthesis as well? He probably has a little more knowledge than some of the BS getting posted in this thread.
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Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. PHD in nutritional sciences who did his dissertation work studying protein synthesis. Considered one of the world's leading experts in protein synthesis. I'm thinking he knows what he's talking about. Unfamiliar with the source??????? |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. Wrong again. http://youtu.be/mjmV8BlsJTQ Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. He has a Ph.D.
Isn't his PhD in something like protein synthesis as well? He probably has a little more knowledge than some of the BS getting posted in this thread.
The Broscience abounds... |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. Wrong again. http://youtu.be/mjmV8BlsJTQ Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. Lol, Dr. Layne Norton has a Phd in nutrition, and did his research on protein synthesis. He is one of the top guys in the world regarding protein research. NOBODY believes in the limited amount of protein digested thing. It's not even a logical myth. |
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30+ per meal 4-5X per day. You can only process so much protein in a sitting the body wastes the rest, unless you are a roided out freak there is no point in eating a 20 ounce steak for instance. How much protein you can uptake is governed by your natural metabolism, more muscle, more uptake simply put. Wrong again. http://youtu.be/mjmV8BlsJTQ Whats he selling??? Nutshell it I am not listening to a 15 rant from a guy whose creds I cannot verify. He has a doctorate. So does Ben Bernanke. 
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I'm not necessarily saying your cardiologist is wrong, but doctors are commonly really poor nutritionists. This is true. People think, "O he/she is a doctor. They know everything." But doctors are usually barely trained, if at all, on nutrition. The 50-60g a day thing is the bare minimum recommended for survival. |
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I'm not necessarily saying your cardiologist is wrong, but doctors are commonly really poor nutritionists. This is the correct answer. My doctor warned me that I was consuming too much protein my observing my raised creatinine levels. She warned that I was putting my kidneys in risk of failure. The problem was that this was done through a blood test, not a urine test like it should have been. That and the fact that there are basically NO studies or cases of protein being a contributing cause to kidney damage. |
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----> http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20030317/high-protein-diets-can-hurt-kidneys There certainly is some evidence to suggest a high protein diet is unhealthy for some people. Yea, SOME people with specific diseases/conditions. If you are a healthy individual a high protein diet is not harmful at all. |
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The nurse practitioner at my cardiologist's office says I should eat about 60 grams of protein a day. The guys at my cardiac workout say you need a gram for every pound of body weight. Following that reasoning I would need 187 grams of protein a day, seems like a hell of a lot. What do you think? Do you lift weights? Either way your diet needs a balance of protein/carbs/fat in around a 40/40/20 ratio (depending on your goals and needs) One gram of protein per lean pound of body weight is not excessive if you are lifting. You don't need carbs. Do they help, yes, but they are not needed. |
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----> http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20030317/high-protein-diets-can-hurt-kidneys There certainly is some evidence to suggest a high protein diet is unhealthy for some people. If someone has liver or kidney problems, absolutely...a high protein diet can be problematic. ...but often elevated blood markers are confused with having those issues. I've had to do a full kidney function test based on a slightly elevated creatnine level in my blood because the first quack said I was in the early stages of kidney failure. Turns out I just had slightly higher blood markers...not kidney failure. |
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----> http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20030317/high-protein-diets-can-hurt-kidneys There certainly is some evidence to suggest a high protein diet is unhealthy for some people. "Therefore, people on high-protein diets may be unknowingly damaging their kidneys." Yeah, real concrete evidence there...
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The nurse practitioner at my cardiologist's office says I should eat about 60 grams of protein a day. The guys at my cardiac workout say you need a gram for every pound of body weight. Following that reasoning I would need 187 grams of protein a day, seems like a hell of a lot. What do you think? Do you lift weights? Either way your diet needs a balance of protein/carbs/fat in around a 40/40/20 ratio (depending on your goals and needs) One gram of protein per lean pound of body weight is not excessive if you are lifting. You don't need carbs. You don't, but it is the body's preferred energy source and they are particularly helpful for exercise/lifting weights. |
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The nurse practitioner at my cardiologist's office says I should eat about 60 grams of protein a day. The guys at my cardiac workout say you need a gram for every pound of body weight. Following that reasoning I would need 187 grams of protein a day, seems like a hell of a lot. What do you think? Do you lift weights? Either way your diet needs a balance of protein/carbs/fat in around a 40/40/20 ratio (depending on your goals and needs) One gram of protein per lean pound of body weight is not excessive if you are lifting. You don't need carbs. Maybe you don't. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. You won't be building muscle successfully on protein alone. |