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5/19/2013 11:35:23 PM EDT
Since others have taken joy in trashing my previous thread, I'm starting a new one. Be forewarned, I am not feeling very patient right now about using the ignore key.

Anyhow, we were talking about the kitchen in the movie "Kiss the Girls". On the face of it, everything in there, from the stove, to the size, to the necessities were there for one purpose: to supply the action of the story. Nicely done, but once done, the effect is somewhat lost.

Looking at the wiki description of "pot racks", the function can be for space saving (not needed in a kitchen like that), decorative (okay), or ease of selection. I can go with the latter as well where I might have the rack for those pots I use the most and the cabinets for those I use the least, once in a blue movie or so. I mean, after all, I do have a knife rack.

I do like to cook but things do get into a standard fare and use of pots for me. Sunday and Saturday was the big stove top wok for fish stews. This last week was a lot of spaghetti, so big boiling pot, small little sauce pot or the measuring cup in the microwave.

Incidently, I've recently discovered rosemary and have been using that spice a lot in my stews. Not sure about the taste but it certainly enhances the aroma.

And thinking to the life ahead? Racks in the kitchen might be the way to go, for the pots, for the knives, for the wine glasses, etc, etc, etc.
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5/19/2013 11:36:41 PM EDT
[#1]
We just hung one in out kitchen, it is ok.  It saves a lot of space.
5/19/2013 11:40:05 PM EDT
[#2]
I consider pot racks to be an abomination.

I've got "minimalist" taste. I've got cabinets in my island for pots and pans, and instead of a knife block, I've got a knife drawer. I greatly prefer it because you don't have to worry as much about stuff getting dusty over time, and there's a lot less visual clutter.
5/19/2013 11:45:46 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I consider pot racks to be an abomination.

I've got "minimalist" taste. I've got cabinets in my island for pots and pans, and instead of a knife block, I've got a knife drawer. I greatly prefer it because you don't have to worry as much about stuff getting dusty over time, and there's a lot less visual clutter.


If there's dust, there's a faucet right there.

Magnetic strip for knives.  Putting that shit in drawers dulls the fuck out of them, and I HATE dull knives.
5/19/2013 11:48:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I consider pot racks to be an abomination.

I've got "minimalist" taste. I've got cabinets in my island for pots and pans, and instead of a knife block, I've got a knife drawer. I greatly prefer it because you don't have to worry as much about stuff getting dusty over time, and there's a lot less visual clutter.


If there's dust, there's a faucet right there.

Magnetic strip for knives.  Putting that shit in drawers dulls the fuck out of them, and I HATE dull knives.


My knife block has a hone with it and it's by the sink
5/19/2013 11:51:37 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I consider pot racks to be an abomination.

I've got "minimalist" taste. I've got cabinets in my island for pots and pans, and instead of a knife block, I've got a knife drawer. I greatly prefer it because you don't have to worry as much about stuff getting dusty over time, and there's a lot less visual clutter.


If there's dust, there's a faucet right there.

Magnetic strip for knives.  Putting that shit in drawers dulls the fuck out of them, and I HATE dull knives.


My knife block has a hone with it and it's by the sink


Proper move.  And I bet your knives stay sharp as well.
5/19/2013 11:54:18 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I consider pot racks to be an abomination.

I've got "minimalist" taste. I've got cabinets in my island for pots and pans, and instead of a knife block, I've got a knife drawer. I greatly prefer it because you don't have to worry as much about stuff getting dusty over time, and there's a lot less visual clutter.


Hmmmm, a knife drawer........

Right now in the apartment kitchen, there is limited drawer space. True, I do have two kitchens, but they are in two separate but adjoining apartments. The two utensil  drawers are loaded with that, utensils. Can openers, graters, salad servers, spatulas, ladles, apple peelers, honey dippers, bar tools, serving spoons and other stuff with some I'm not sure what it's for.  So, following that line of thought, I think in the future home, the drawers will be for utensils and not knives. The knife racks are along a wall, magnetic, and generally, allow me to pull easily what I need. The blocks some sets came with are in some cabinet somewhere but some sets came in flat packs as well.

I applaud you for your minimalist taste; it's not a bad way to go. Me, however, it's sort of counter for various reasons.

First of all, I like to food shop, I like to kitchen shop. One of those things that gives me joy (AND WHAT WOMAN DOESN'T LIKE TO SHOP?). Of course, these days I do it reasonably and on the CHEAP but not too cheap for there is a lot of cheap stuff out there not worth the buck one paid for it. Anyhow, every so often, I go out and get more.

Secondly, I am of the mentality that between enough odds and ends, I ought to come up with something to do what I want to do.

About pot racks, what do you find so abdominal about them?
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5/20/2013 12:07:29 AM EDT
[#7]
You just tried rosemary??

Thyme? Sage?

Divide some new or red potatoes in halves or quarters.
Strip a couple of stalks of rosemary, chop coarsely.
Season the potatoes with kosher salt and pepper and place in a gallon sized zip-loc bag.
Add enough extra virgin olive oil to coat and then add the chopped rosemary. Move it all around to evenly coat.

Heat the oven to 375.

Place the potatoes on a baking sheet and bake for 12 minutes. Use a spatula to stir them around and bake for another 10 minutes.

Sooooooo good!!
5/20/2013 12:16:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
You just tried rosemary??

Thyme? Sage?

Divide some new or red potatoes in halves or quarters.
Strip a couple of stalks of rosemary, chop coarsely.........


What can I say? I had a neglected childhood in the kitchen.

As it is, I am talking about rosemary spice in the bottle.

I guess I will have to try out thyme and sage.

Here's a little tidbit. When my father was undergoing cancer treatment, the rest of the family ate at a Steak & Ale or something of the like. I had to drive back to work that night and when it came time for dessert, the waiter rattled off a few things and one that I "heard" was "Bay Leaf" coffee. I thought that sounded odd but interesting so I was about to order a mug before Mom said she didn't think  that was very wise for someone who to drive a distance.........

........3 guesses to what he actually said.
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5/20/2013 12:26:28 AM EDT
[#9]
I like a big rack in the kitchen sort I had to.


I'd love a cast iron pot rack over a center island. They are so expensive when done properly I have seen them almost exclusively as decorative pieces when I do see them, complete with cookware that is never used

putting cookware in a cupboard is just a waste, but society has shaped people into style > function.



5/20/2013 12:28:02 AM EDT
[#10]
Bay Leaf coffee? Never heard of it... What are the ramifications of such a brew? It doesn't sound good...

But please don't use dried rosemary. Or dried thyme or sage. They're all easy to find fresh in any grocery store and aren't expensive. And they'll keep for a couple of weeks in the fridge.
5/20/2013 12:35:10 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Bay Leaf coffee? Never heard of it... What are the ramifications of such a brew? It doesn't sound good...


The waiter said "Bailey's"...........

Quoted:
I like a big rack in the kitchen sort I had to.


I'd love a cast iron pot rack over a center island. They are so expensive when done properly I have seen them almost exclusively as decorative pieces when I do see them, complete with cookware that is never used

putting cookware in a cupboard is just a waste, but society has shaped people into style > function.


Not surprising, really. It is not only Madison Avenue that teaches us that the kitchen, cooking, and eating is something to be done with friends, but also literature and history.

As to the subject, well, since I am looking at Texas Hill country, I am not too worried about earthquakes bringing the whole kit and kaboodle down on top of me. And what I do have to worry about, well, if I'm there, it will probably kill me anyhow.

Further, of course, I plan to build a strong house. I mean, I'm not going to be like that exiled king with the throne. Do it properly and put the bolts through the beams.......which when she pulled the rack down in the movie, she was either one heck of a woman.....or one lousy builder.
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5/20/2013 12:45:36 AM EDT
[#12]
A well placed pot rack, properly secured, can be used for more than just holding pots

Proper counter space is really something else that's been ruined. Slowly split into small sections rather than a large open space to work with.

My girlfriend and I have talked about things like this. Remember laundry chutes? Those things were everywhere and awesome. You never see them in houses anymore, and the only thing we can come up with is that it has been quietly removed by designers engineering the modern home for style rather than comfort or efficiency.
5/20/2013 6:38:42 PM EDT
[#13]
Well, another rack that occurred to me tonight.

I need a spice rack.

Most of my spices are on a pantry shelf with those I use weekly up front, those I hardly use at all at back. Those I don't know, don't experiment with at the back.

I need someway to bring all to view so I can use them, know what I have, know what works....and what doesn't.
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"No, that's ginger."
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5/20/2013 6:49:28 PM EDT
[#14]
I thought you just had to hang up the pot upside down till it dried. They make racks for that? Damn
5/20/2013 7:47:31 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Well, another rack that occurred to me tonight.

I need a spice rack.

Most of my spices are on a pantry shelf with those I use weekly up front, those I hardly use at all at back. Those I don't know, don't experiment with at the back.

I need someway to bring all to view so I can use them, know what I have, know what works....and what doesn't.
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(After Phoebe asks about "billings root", "Well, you have that. It's on the bottom shelf."--Witch who takes a jar out of their cupboard.
"No, that's ginger."
"Now that's what it's called. In the old covens they called it billings root.", (w,stte), Charmed, "Exit Strategy")


Don't get hung up on those "free spices" racks. The spices they have are usually cheap and shipping for the small amount makes it almost not worth it. The racks themselves are ok in quality though.
5/20/2013 8:04:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Since others have taken joy in trashing my previous thread, I'm starting a new one. Be forewarned, I am not feeling very patient right now about using the ignore key.

Anyhow, we were talking about the kitchen in the movie "Kiss the Girls". On the face of it, everything in there, from the stove, to the size, to the necessities were there for one purpose: to supply the action of the story. Nicely done, but once done, the effect is somewhat lost.

Looking at the wiki description of "pot racks", the function can be for space saving (not needed in a kitchen like that), decorative (okay), or ease of selection. I can go with the latter as well where I might have the rack for those pots I use the most and the cabinets for those I use the least, once in a blue movie or so. I mean, after all, I do have a knife rack.

I do like to cook but things do get into a standard fare and use of pots for me. Sunday and Saturday was the big stove top wok for fish stews. This last week was a lot of spaghetti, so big boiling pot, small little sauce pot or the measuring cup in the microwave.

Incidently, I've recently discovered rosemary and have been using that spice a lot in my stews. Not sure about the taste but it certainly enhances the aroma.

And thinking to the life ahead? Racks in the kitchen might be the way to go, for the pots, for the knives, for the wine glasses, etc, etc, etc.
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("Hurry, Commander! I am not reknowned for my patience!"--Stromberg, (w,stte), "The Spy Who Loved Me")


In consideration of the post about your fathers battle with cancer, I will try to be nice.

To a speed reader( I hate that word ) your title jumps out as "Pot Rocks!"

I am no help on pot racks, inexpensive quality basic spices can be obtained if there is an Aldi store in your AO.


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"best of luck" (w, stte,) Rainerâ„¢ 5-31-13 EDT
5/21/2013 12:08:04 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Don't get hung up on those "free spices" racks. The spices they have are usually cheap and shipping for the small amount makes it almost not worth it. The racks themselves are ok in quality though.


I'm not.

I have plenty of spices all ready, in different containers, from different makers. If I get some racks, they will probably be bought from a proper kitchen store for the mounting needs that I eventually decide on. Who knows? I might just do something easy like an over the door system for the pantry door. Don't know yet, though, as that it is a galley kitchen with a cat at one end who has succeeded in removing most of the pictures on the wall behind her. (remember my warning)
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5/21/2013 12:16:49 AM EDT
[#18]
My Dad dug an old heavy duty wagon wheel rim out of our yard that was used as a planter for tulips/irises.  He cut it in half and had our local welding shop weld it to a steel plate.  It's been faithfully holding an entire set of Calphalon steel cookware for quite a while now, lids and all.
5/21/2013 12:27:38 AM EDT
[#19]
My stovetop is located on an island that is 9 or so feet long. I tried a premade iron/steel pot rack shaped in  a big oval, it sucked, all the stuff hanging on it got in the way of each other, so...



I made a pot rack out of an 8' oak handrail and a dozen and a half (or so) hooks for my kitchen.



It is real handy, the skillets, wok, and saucepans (and the lids) are right there hanging in a line, easy to grab when cooking.
5/21/2013 12:41:26 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
My Dad dug an old heavy duty wagon wheel rim out of our yard that was used as a planter for tulips/irises.  He cut it in half and had our local welding shop weld it to a steel plate.  It's been faithfully holding an entire set of Calphalon steel cookware for quite a while now, lids and all.


That's a good idea!

I'll have to add such thinking to my Craigslist searches of the surplus economy.
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5/21/2013 12:50:53 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I consider pot racks to be an abomination.

I've got "minimalist" taste. I've got cabinets in my island for pots and pans, and instead of a knife block, I've got a knife drawer. I greatly prefer it because you don't have to worry as much about stuff getting dusty over time, and there's a lot less visual clutter.

I tend to agree with this.
I once dated someone who had a pot rack and I thought it was horribly ugly.

Not only was it bulky and distracting he was rather short so it was hung low which meant that at my height I would be hit in the head with pots if I took a step in the wrong direction.  
You don't get bumps when the pots are in the cabinet where they belong.
5/21/2013 10:01:29 AM EDT
[#22]
An old oak meeting hall coat rack, that I re-purposed, with a pair of straight bars and hooks from Williams-Sonoma:







 
5/21/2013 11:07:37 PM EDT
[#23]
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An old oak meeting hall coat rack, that I re-purposed, with a pair of straight bars and hooks from Williams-Sonoma:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/IMG_0085.jpg  


NICE! And I'm glad when things work for some. Me, really don't even have that much room in the main apartment for something like that. Of course, there is such room in the second apartment....just as there is a rather unfulfilled kitchen. Just use that kitchen for the stockpile pantry, more freezer space, and the frig to dump off the cold bag from the grocery until I can get to it.

Had an interesting insight today. When I was shopping at HEB the other day, I think they wanted to charge me $2.74ish for a half an ounce of thyme. Using the rosemary today, I noticed the container was 1.3ish ounce, which I bought at Big Lots, for a buck. Now maybe HEB was not so outlandish, I might want to go back and reconfirm that price but if so.....buy one's spices at Big Lots while one can....buy my tea there as I can.

And on other fronts.........of course, I am looking down the road to how I might eventually build my house, but such thoughts should be a joy, not nightmares.....but had one today. The relator, in the dream, is showing me this beautiful wood as in logs house. Two stories, wonderful bedroom, den, kitchen......but it seems rather small and I want to see the building that shares my wall. Oh, that's not part of the deal, that's the school house (big main classroom, lots of labs).

Schoolhouse? You know I use guns and you are offering me a home with a school house right next store?

Well, that's why you have the land; you can put up a "coal house" (what the dream id'd for the guns); this is a little get away. You're loaded with money, so why not? (The relator had the paperwork for my signature to buy).

I'm not that loaded and I look around some more. Apparently my "new home" is quite a place, surrounding it, there are party tables with people talking, a water wheel, an aquaduct with a roaring river leading to a tall Inca temple, but none of it is really observable from my den window. And then I am thinking, how does all this fit on my land? So I ask.

Oh, we aren't on your land. Your land is way over there! (sign here, please).......then the dream rather shifted, faded (I turned into Kara, flew away, ran into ArchAngel who had discovered a storehouse of silver artifacts, Hawke and Caitlin were arguing with him that they didn't belong to him, I woke up)

Sigh! Should have cooked the spaghetti topping more. As dreams go, today was one of unpleasant ones.
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5/21/2013 11:42:39 PM EDT
[#24]
Weird dreams...

I had one of the weirdest most vivid dreams I can ever recall last night. It even continued after waking a couple of times.

I didn't like it at all.
5/21/2013 11:52:52 PM EDT
[#25]
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Weird dreams...

I had one of the weirdest most vivid dreams I can ever recall last night. It even continued after waking a couple of times.

I didn't like it at all.


Well, as with most of my dreams, I can identify the "Triggers" of reality to what may have caused elements to come together. A belly dancing friend is very much into Supergirl, hence Kara. I referenced Alex Cord last week, hence ArchAngel. The ranch, the house, other things are all part of our current conversation. A school house, this or that disaster in the news. Have seen at least two ancient central american temples in the news recently. Money? Been looking at the family's bank accounts....and bills. By the by, talked to the lawyer the other month for 36 minutes? $240 bill. The water wheel? This discussion. Guns? Well, this is AR15, right? And the raging river? It was the need to make a head call that woke me up.

As I said, the dreams today weren't nightmares.....but they were not pleasant.
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