[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Adam -12 (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/19/2013 5:24:53 PM EDT
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Malloy is arresting people without reading them their miranda rights.
A 1971 episode. Could Jack Webb really make such a mistake? |
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I do that every once in awhile, just to see who gets it. "See the man, 1300 block of Topanga."" one Adam 12 see the man......" Fewer and fewer people get it every time.
"And in a moment, the results of those trials" Wrong show. That was DRAGNET. |
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An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. This is the correct answer. Adam 12 was lauded for years because of the high level of technical accuracy the producers of the show went to regarding their use of police procedure. The show was so successful in this regard episodes were actually used by many police departments as training films for a long time. In fact the show had such a influence during its time on the air that officers would actually use California Penal Code numbers in jurisdictions outside of California when referring to crimes such as burglary or a disturbance. |
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I do that every once in awhile, just to see who gets it. "See the man, 1300 block of Topanga."" one Adam 12 see the man......" Fewer and fewer people get it every time.
"And in a moment, the results of those trials" Wrong show. That was DRAGNET. Damn it - I knew that - OP's Jack Web reference fucked me up. |
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"...a four eleven fight group, with knives and chains." ETA: Just glanced out the window and see a cruiser has someone pulled over down the road aways. I wonder if it is Reed and Malloy?  No, it was a 4-15 fight group with chains and knives. Yep. Thanks for the correction. |
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An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. This is the correct answer. Adam 12 was lauded for years because of the high level of technical accuracy the producers of the show went to regarding their use of police procedure. The show was so successful in this regard episodes were actually used by many police departments as training films for a long time. In fact the show had such a influence during its time on the air that officers would actually use California Penal Code numbers in jurisdictions outside of California when referring to crimes such as burglary or a disturbance. The hired an actual LAPD dispatcher to doo the show for them to get the right sound on the radio 
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"...a four eleven fight group, with knives and chains." ETA: Just glanced out the window and see a cruiser has someone pulled over down the road aways. I wonder if it is Reed and Malloy? No, it was a 4-15 fight group with chains and knives. Yep. Thanks for the correction. Hey, I grew up watching that show. 
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An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. This is the correct answer. Adam 12 was lauded for years because of the high level of technical accuracy the producers of the show went to regarding their use of police procedure. The show was so successful in this regard episodes were actually used by many police departments as training films for a long time. In fact the show had such a influence during its time on the air that officers would actually use California Penal Code numbers in jurisdictions outside of California when referring to crimes such as burglary or a disturbance. Still to this day, in my mind, when I think of what an ideal professional police officer should be, I conjure the images of Reed and Malloy. |
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"...a four eleven fight group, with knives and chains." ETA: Just glanced out the window and see a cruiser has someone pulled over down the road aways. I wonder if it is Reed and Malloy? No, it was a 4-15 fight group with chains and knives. Yep. Thanks for the correction. Hey, I grew up watching that show.
Me too, but I'm just getting too senile to remember the details right.
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Miranda is not a "right" per se. It's a warning or advisory.
It is correct that unless the officer wanted to question the subject, that no reading of Miranda is necessary. I once started reading the Miranda and halfway through, I said forget it. I don't want a statement. I had the guy on tape and that was good enough. It must have sunk his heart.
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"...a four eleven fight group, with knives and chains." ETA: Just glanced out the window and see a cruiser has someone pulled over down the road aways. I wonder if it is Reed and Malloy? No, it was a 4-15 fight group with chains and knives. Yep. Thanks for the correction. Hey, I grew up watching that show.
Me too, but I'm just getting too senile to remember the details right. It's funny (not) that I can remember that but not what I had for lunch yesterday. |
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First year law students are some of the best for zingers like that.
I loved it when they'd pound on the booking counter when I worked in the jail, and demand I release them because they weren't read their rights. Or, when they'd demand their phone call. I'd tell them that they had no Constitutional right to a phone call, but I'd get them all the paper, stamps, and envelopes they'd like. |
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An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. This is the correct answer. Adam 12 was lauded for years because of the high level of technical accuracy the producers of the show went to regarding their use of police procedure. The show was so successful in this regard episodes were actually used by many police departments as training films for a long time. In fact the show had such a influence during its time on the air that officers would actually use California Penal Code numbers in jurisdictions outside of California when referring to crimes such as burglary or a disturbance. The hired an actual LAPD dispatcher to doo the show for them to get the right sound on the radio http://blogs.visaliatimesdelta.com/alternatingcurrents/files/2012/10/ShaaronClaridgeAdam12.jpg I love me some Sharon Claridge ... She also made an on camera appearance in one episode , they partially concealed her face using camera angles because they were concerned about her being on camera for her safety since she was a real dispatcher. |
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Malloy is arresting people without reading them their miranda rights. A 1971 episode. Could Jack Webb really make such a mistake? Was the court ruling about the requirement to read Miranda even in effect when Adam 12 was being produced? Yes the Miranda case was ruled on in 1965 by SCOTUS Miranda v Arizona . |
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An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. This is the correct answer. Adam 12 was lauded for years because of the high level of technical accuracy the producers of the show went to regarding their use of police procedure. The show was so successful in this regard episodes were actually used by many police departments as training films for a long time. In fact the show had such a influence during its time on the air that officers would actually use California Penal Code numbers in jurisdictions outside of California when referring to crimes such as burglary or a disturbance. Still to this day, in my mind, when I think of what an ideal professional police officer should be, I conjure the images of Reed and Malloy. Truth , I think many used Malloy and Reed as a yard stick for what professional police officers should look like and do. Kent McCord was an actual LAPD school district reserve Lt who retired from the force. |
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One Adam-12...A Blanket????
There was this episode where this old guy that had partially flipped out. He was running around minus his clothes. You couldn't see anything thanks to camera positions, props, etc. So when Malloy radioed in that they needed a blanket for this one perp.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. This is the correct answer. Adam 12 was lauded for years because of the high level of technical accuracy the producers of the show went to regarding their use of police procedure. The show was so successful in this regard episodes were actually used by many police departments as training films for a long time. In fact the show had such a influence during its time on the air that officers would actually use California Penal Code numbers in jurisdictions outside of California when referring to crimes such as burglary or a disturbance. The hired an actual LAPD dispatcher to doo the show for them to get the right sound on the radio http://blogs.visaliatimesdelta.com/alternatingcurrents/files/2012/10/ShaaronClaridgeAdam12.jpg Damn. None of our dispatchers look like that! |
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I enjoyed looking at the police hardware. Supposedly they were spot on with what was actually in use at the time. Cars, radios, gas guns, shottys, handguns, etc.
Early shows had them carrying S&W M-14s with break front holsters. Then transitioned to M-15 S&Ws. And the scenes at the police range for quals was supposedly correct as well. It takes a lot of work to get all those details right. |
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I enjoyed looking at the police hardware. Supposedly they were spot on with what was actually in use at the time. Cars, radios, gas guns, shottys, handguns, etc. Early shows had them carrying S&W M-14s with break front holsters. Then transitioned to M-15 S&Ws. And the scenes at the police range for quals was supposedly correct as well. It takes a lot of work to get all those details right. The holsters they used were actual holsters then in use with the LAPD. The Safety Speed Clamshell, a very fast holster to draw from but also somewhat dangerous to use. Still it was very popular on the West Coast with law enforcement, it never caught on in the rest of the country. Through the series they carried model 10 revolvers initially the LAPD issued revolvers with a 6 inch barrel as they felt they were more accurate, later they transitioned to 4 inch barrels . |
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An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. There it is... ETA: Jack Webb did Dragnet too. It was a radio serial before TV came along. And only if those answers would be incriminating, and only if that person is in custody or a reasonable person would assume that they are not free to leave or end the interview. BTW: Ernesto Miranda was convicted again at his second trial. He went back to prison after violating his parole by possessing a handgun. Once released, he was stabbed to death in a bar fight. |
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I enjoyed looking at the police hardware. Supposedly they were spot on with what was actually in use at the time. Cars, radios, gas guns, shottys, handguns, etc. Early shows had them carrying S&W M-14s with break front holsters. Then transitioned to M-15 S&Ws. And the scenes at the police range for quals was supposedly correct as well. It takes a lot of work to get all those details right. The holsters they used were actual holsters then in use with the LAPD. The Safety Speed Clamshell, a very fast holster to draw from but also somewhat dangerous to use. Still it was very popular on the West Coast with law enforcement, it never caught on in the rest of the country. Through the series they carried model 10 revolvers initially the LAPD issued revolvers with a 6 inch barrel as they felt they were more accurate, later they transitioned to 4 inch barrels . I don't remember seeing the 10s, will have to look closer next time. I liked the SP1s when they went all SWAT once or twice. |
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Okay, inspired by this thread, I just dug out my DVDs of Season Two and watched an episode.
Curious about what kind of revolvers Reed and Malloy were packing, I did some searching, and found... ...this gem... ...which should be of high interest to all fans on ARFCOM. |
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I enjoyed looking at the police hardware. Supposedly they were spot on with what was actually in use at the time. Cars, radios, gas guns, shottys, handguns, etc. Early shows had them carrying S&W M-14s with break front holsters. Then transitioned to M-15 S&Ws. And the scenes at the police range for quals was supposedly correct as well. It takes a lot of work to get all those details right. The holsters they used were actual holsters then in use with the LAPD. The Safety Speed Clamshell, a very fast holster to draw from but also somewhat dangerous to use. Still it was very popular on the West Coast with law enforcement, it never caught on in the rest of the country. Through the series they carried model 10 revolvers initially the LAPD issued revolvers with a 6 inch barrel as they felt they were more accurate, later they transitioned to 4 inch barrels . I don't remember seeing the 10s, will have to look closer next time. I liked the SP1s when they went all SWAT once or twice. The 6 inch gun you see them with was a K38 Model 14 , Later on you see them using a Combat Masterpiece Model 15 . Both guns are part of the Model 10 line. Technically you are correct . They are also seen in many episodes carrying Model 36 revolvers when off duty. What is interesting is that all LAPD revolvers were DAO due to liability concerns. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: An officer is only required to read the suspect his rights only if he wishes to question him or her. This is the correct answer. Adam 12 was lauded for years because of the high level of technical accuracy the producers of the show went to regarding their use of police procedure. The show was so successful in this regard episodes were actually used by many police departments as training films for a long time. In fact the show had such a influence during its time on the air that officers would actually use California Penal Code numbers in jurisdictions outside of California when referring to crimes such as burglary or a disturbance. The hired an actual LAPD dispatcher to doo the show for them to get the right sound on the radio http://blogs.visaliatimesdelta.com/alternatingcurrents/files/2012/10/ShaaronClaridgeAdam12.jpg Shaaron Claridge was her name, now retired. Here she is in a cameo in the episode, "Suspended".   |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgjfi1DU1mQ
What Do You Want From Life - The Tubes (Reference to Randolph Mantooth) Another Jack Webb show - Emergency! |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgjfi1DU1mQ What Do You Want From Life - The Tubes (Reference to Randolph Mantooth) Another Jack Webb show - Emergency! Another show I loved! "Give him 50cc's of ringers lactate!" |