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4/25/2013 1:10:52 PM EDT
Would you buy one in .357 mag if offered in a frame size and barrel length you liked?

One of the sales reps claimed that one just might be forth coming...

so consider it an un-official rumor...

who knows he might have been joking just to see if it popped up on the web somewhere..

Here is to hoping..
4/25/2013 1:13:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Sounds cool, but I'd buy a Glock carbine first.
4/25/2013 1:13:32 PM EDT
[#2]
That's stupid

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4/25/2013 1:16:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho
4/25/2013 1:16:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Rather it be in .44


4/25/2013 1:17:04 PM EDT
[#5]
Been done. Sauer Western Marshal .44
4/25/2013 1:18:56 PM EDT
[#6]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


But you still could use the moonclips, right?  Because moonclips fucking rule.

And make the cylinder just long enough for the 9mm round, and the frame just big enough for the cylinder.
4/25/2013 1:20:41 PM EDT
[#7]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


Now that is something I would buy
4/25/2013 1:21:44 PM EDT
[#8]
What about an 8 shot Sig .357 magnum that would shoot .38s, .380, and 9mm? That'd be cool
4/25/2013 1:22:12 PM EDT
[#9]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


The 9mm pitbull is available. Gun Tests liked it.
4/25/2013 1:22:47 PM EDT
[#10]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with....


Now that sounds interesting.  I carry a Glock 19 and my wife carries a J-frame (M60, 2", 158gr .38 +Ps).  If we could share ammo in a wheelgun with same dimension as what she's used to - yeah, I'd spend money on that if it could handle +P.
4/25/2013 1:24:05 PM EDT
[#11]
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The 9mm pitbull is available. Gun Tests liked it.


Isn't that closer to K-frame dimensions, though?
4/25/2013 1:24:59 PM EDT
[#12]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


But you still could use the moonclips, right?  Because moonclips fucking rule.

And make the cylinder just long enough for the 9mm round, and the frame just big enough for the cylinder.


Not sure if using them is an option or not...google charter arms bulldog I think is the model, it's a 5 shot "mid sized" revolver they started making a few years ago chambered in .40. It uses springs if I remember right one in each chamber of the cylinder and one on each cutout on the extractor to keep the rimless cartridge from moving


Here's the page on the 9mm version

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Pitbull_79920.asp

The sob is 22 oz unloaded tho, and looks to be the same size frame as the 40 version, they need to do it in a light weight snubbie version intended for ankle or pocket carry, like the airweight j frames smith makes
4/25/2013 1:26:21 PM EDT
[#13]
They need to up the game and offer several calibers from the pedestrian stuff up to 445 Super Mag. They need to it right though and not have the end user beta test them.

I'd certainly buy a DA/SA in 41 Mag, 44 Mag and 445.
4/25/2013 1:29:28 PM EDT
[#14]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


Now that is something I would buy


Smith 547
4/25/2013 1:32:58 PM EDT
[#15]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


Now that is something I would buy


Smith 547


That's neither j-frame sized (or is it, I thought j frames were only offered as snubbies) nor moon clip free is is?
4/25/2013 1:35:30 PM EDT
[#16]
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The 9mm pitbull is available. Gun Tests liked it.


Isn't that closer to K-frame dimensions, though?


Yeah, it's the a little chunky.
4/25/2013 1:36:06 PM EDT
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4/25/2013 1:36:09 PM EDT
[#18]
Lightweight in 38/357.

Along the same lines as the Airweight Smiths or Ruger LCR

Shameless Sig fanboy that is me would buy one. (if not an $800 wheelgun)
4/25/2013 1:36:42 PM EDT
[#19]
I've been suffering from revolveritis for months now, and I've decided that pre-lock S&Ws are my revolver of choice, but I'd at least like to see what they have to offer.

I'm willing to guess that whatever Sig is bringing to the table is probably not going to be the traditional DA revolvers we're used to. Maybe it is, and if that's the case, I'm guessing P210 level finish and pricing, but I'm betting they're going to show up with something more modern. Perhaps it'll be a Chiappa Rhino competitor.

I'm expecting aluminum construction, optional rails, and maybe some retarded special editions.
4/25/2013 1:38:32 PM EDT
[#20]
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Lightweight in 38/357.

Along the same lines as the Airweight Smiths or Ruger LCR

Shameless Sig fanboy that is me would buy one. (if not an $800 wheelgun)


I don't see Sig bringing any revolver to market under $700, unless it's polymer.

Think about it: How many guns does Sig have out in that price range?
4/25/2013 1:42:08 PM EDT
[#21]
If they make a good one, it'll be expensive and arfcom will bitch about it...  Then, they will cheapen it to 'compete', and arfcom will bitch about MIM parts...
4/25/2013 1:42:56 PM EDT
[#22]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


Now that is something I would buy


Smith 547


That's neither j-frame sized (or is it, I thought j frames were only offered as snubbies) nor moon clip free is is?


Not a Jframe, but it doesnt use moon clips.

Only 10k made.
4/25/2013 1:44:26 PM EDT
[#23]
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Lightweight in 38/357.

Along the same lines as the Airweight Smiths or Ruger LCR

Shameless Sig fanboy that is me would buy one. (if not an $800 wheelgun)


I don't see Sig bringing any revolver to market under $700, unless it's polymer.

Think about it: How many guns does Sig have out in that price range?


Don't the make a polymer Lego version, something like the p250, for like $400-$500?
4/25/2013 1:44:56 PM EDT
[#24]
<ShamWowguy> YOU KNOW THE GERMANS MAKE GOOD STUFF<ShamWow guy>
4/25/2013 1:46:11 PM EDT
[#25]
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Love to have a j-frame sized one chambered in 9x19 that you didn't have to use moon clips with...heard a rumor a few years ago that charter was working on one along the same lines as the .40 S&W they make...haven't seen anything else on it since tho


Now that is something I would buy


Smith 547


That's neither j-frame sized (or is it, I thought j frames were only offered as snubbies) nor moon clip free is is?


Not a Jframe, but it doesnt use moon clips.

Only 10k made.


That's cool, I thought no moon clips on the charter .40 were a "gamechanga" new thing, actually didn't realize it had been don't before, thanks for the info
4/25/2013 1:47:08 PM EDT
[#26]



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<ShamWowguy> YOU KNOW THE GERMANS MAKE GOOD STUFF<ShamWow guy>


By a Korth then...



 
4/25/2013 1:47:50 PM EDT
[#27]
Well they do have a lot of practice putting revolver triggers in semi-autos...
4/25/2013 1:48:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Nope.

Make mine a Smith.
4/25/2013 1:49:52 PM EDT
[#29]
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<ShamWowguy> YOU KNOW THE GERMANS MAKE GOOD STUFF<ShamWow guy>

By a Korth then...
 


pricey
4/25/2013 1:49:56 PM EDT
[#30]
I would not buy one. It would look strange with that slabside cut they put on semi auto slides.

Because they HAVE to put that in somewhere.
4/25/2013 1:50:57 PM EDT
[#31]
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That's stupid

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a gun company making guns is stupid...gotcha...there is still a very large revolver market in the U.S.
4/25/2013 1:52:19 PM EDT
[#32]
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I would not buy one. It would look strange with that slabside cut they put on semi auto slides.

Because they HAVE to put that in somewhere.


Dan Wesson says "Wassup."

4/25/2013 1:54:19 PM EDT
[#33]
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Nope.

Make mine a Smith.


I think modern day Sig has a shot at building better revolvers than modern day S&W. Hell, they'll have a head start by not putting holes in their frames.
4/25/2013 1:56:04 PM EDT
[#34]
They need to concentrate on their core products and stop trying to bring new shit out every week.
4/25/2013 1:59:06 PM EDT
[#35]
I'd be interested to see what they'd come up with.
4/25/2013 1:59:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Only Americans understand the Revolver.
4/25/2013 2:00:42 PM EDT
[#37]
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Would you buy one in .357 mag if offered in a frame size and barrel length you liked?

One of the sales reps claimed that one just might be forth coming...

so consider it an un-official rumor...

who knows he might have been joking just to see if it popped up on the web somewhere..

Here is to hoping..


Only if it was made in Germany (after seeing how the US totally f***ed up the Sig 551, the Walther/S&W  99 9mm, etc.).  

Sorry, the history/facts are clear on this.
4/25/2013 2:01:29 PM EDT
[#38]
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They need to concentrate on their core products and stop trying to bring new shit out every week.


Have they had any issues in the last 3 years or so?

The market is throttling back, and the industry is sitting on some capital. This is probably a good time for product development.
4/25/2013 2:03:32 PM EDT
[#39]
Uhhh....  no.
4/25/2013 2:04:29 PM EDT
[#40]
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Would you buy one in .357 mag if offered in a frame size and barrel length you liked?

One of the sales reps claimed that one just might be forth coming...

so consider it an un-official rumor...

who knows he might have been joking just to see if it popped up on the web somewhere..

Here is to hoping..


Why? Plenty of good ones out there already.
4/25/2013 2:05:35 PM EDT
[#41]
I'd take a serious look look at a Sig 357 in the interest of diversity and all....

Seriously though, it would be interesting to see what they could come up with. I've been hoping for years that somebody would come out with a wheelgun that is 357, 4" K or L frame sized, polymer framed, cut for moon clips and costs less than $500. Something like a big brother to the Ruger LCR (Ruger are you listening?.) Hell put a rail under the barrel or call it a super dooper zombie killer if you need too. It seems to me that a gun like that would be perfect for all kinds of uses from a family nightstand, woods/kitgun, truck gun etc.
4/25/2013 2:09:16 PM EDT
[#42]
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Why? Plenty of good ones out there already.


I disagree with that argument, too.

Non J-frame S&Ws are hard to get and they have those damn locks. Rugers are meh. Rhinos are kinda neat, but they're not exactly readily available, either. Pretty much everything else is shit.

We need another manufacturer or two producing decent revolvers. I kinda figured Dan Wesson would be one of those manufacturers. Sig Sauer is a suprise, if true.
4/25/2013 2:12:38 PM EDT
[#43]



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Why? Plenty of good ones out there already.




I disagree with that argument, too.



Non J-frame S&Ws are hard to get and they have those damn locks. Rugers are meh. Rhinos are kinda neat, but they're not exactly readily available, either. Pretty much everything else is shit.



We need another manufacturer or two producing decent revolvers. I kinda figured Dan Wesson would be one of those manufacturers. Sig Sauer is a suprise, if true.


Ruger is Meh?  Perhaps you are talking about those little ones...



I agree, that they are no 629 though...




 
4/25/2013 2:13:18 PM EDT
[#44]
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I'd take a serious look look at a Sig 357 in the interest of diversity and all....

Seriously though, it would be interesting to see what they could come up with. I've been hoping for years that somebody would come out with a wheelgun that is 357, 4" K or L frame sized, polymer framed, cut for moon clips and costs less than $500. Something like a big brother to the Ruger LCR (Ruger are you listening?.) Hell put a rail under the barrel or call it a super dooper zombie killer if you need too. It seems to me that a gun like that would be perfect for all kinds of uses from a family nightstand, woods/kitgun, truck gun etc.


What's the purpose of moon clips in a .357 magnum? The ability to shoot 357 sig, 9mm, .380?
4/25/2013 2:19:51 PM EDT
[#45]
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I'd take a serious look look at a Sig 357 in the interest of diversity and all....

Seriously though, it would be interesting to see what they could come up with. I've been hoping for years that somebody would come out with a wheelgun that is 357, 4" K or L frame sized, polymer framed, cut for moon clips and costs less than $500. Something like a big brother to the Ruger LCR (Ruger are you listening?.) Hell put a rail under the barrel or call it a super dooper zombie killer if you need too. It seems to me that a gun like that would be perfect for all kinds of uses from a family nightstand, woods/kitgun, truck gun etc.


What's the purpose of moon clips in a .357 magnum? The ability to shoot 357 sig, 9mm, .380?


Lightning fast reloads.
4/25/2013 2:21:05 PM EDT
[#46]
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Why? Plenty of good ones out there already.


I disagree with that argument, too.

Non J-frame S&Ws are hard to get and they have those damn locks. Rugers are meh. Rhinos are kinda neat, but they're not exactly readily available, either. Pretty much everything else is shit.

We need another manufacturer or two producing decent revolvers. I kinda figured Dan Wesson would be one of those manufacturers. Sig Sauer is a suprise, if true.

Ruger is Meh?  Perhaps you are talking about those little ones...

I agree, that they are no 629 though...

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/redlow_zpsf89cd093.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/redlow_zpsf89cd093.jpg</a>
 


My first revolver was a GP100. It was a solid gun, but the DA trigger pull was kinda lame, and the fit and finish wasn't going to impress anybody.

I traded that for an old Dan Wesson, but I think I'm going to end up with an old 586.

It's also worth mentioning that the last NIB Ruger SP101 I saw was an abortion. The barrel was canted, the rear sight was poorly cut, and the hammer had some really well defined MIM marks.
4/25/2013 2:21:20 PM EDT
[#47]
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I'd take a serious look look at a Sig 357 in the interest of diversity and all....

Seriously though, it would be interesting to see what they could come up with. I've been hoping for years that somebody would come out with a wheelgun that is 357, 4" K or L frame sized, polymer framed, cut for moon clips and costs less than $500. Something like a big brother to the Ruger LCR (Ruger are you listening?.) Hell put a rail under the barrel or call it a super dooper zombie killer if you need too. It seems to me that a gun like that would be perfect for all kinds of uses from a family nightstand, woods/kitgun, truck gun etc.


What's the purpose of moon clips in a .357 magnum? The ability to shoot 357 sig, 9mm, .380?


I was thinking speedy loading but, that's not a bad idea either. There was the medusa revolver that did all that with a really complicated star systemm Not sure how it work with headpsacing either.
4/25/2013 2:22:03 PM EDT
[#48]
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Nope.

Make mine a Smith.


I think modern day Sig has a shot at building better revolvers than modern day S&W. Hell, they'll have a head start by not putting holes in their frames.


Who said anything about a "modern day" Smith?
4/25/2013 2:24:59 PM EDT
[#49]
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Nope.

Make mine a Smith.


I think modern day Sig has a shot at building better revolvers than modern day S&W. Hell, they'll have a head start by not putting holes in their frames.


Who said anything about a "modern day" Smith?


I did. Apples to apples and all that.

I kinda like the hunt, but it's a pain in the ass trying to find a nice older Smith that the owner doesn't want eleventy billion dollars for.
4/25/2013 2:26:01 PM EDT
[#50]



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My first revolver was a GP100. It was a solid gun, but the DA trigger pull was kinda lame, and the fit and finish wasn't going to impress anybody.



I traded that for an old Dan Wesson, but I think I'm going to end up with an old 586.



It's also worth mentioning that the last NIB Ruger SP101 I saw was an abortion. The barrel was canted, the rear sight was poorly cut, and the hammer had some really well defined MIM marks.


Yeah, smith double actions are hard to beat, but I rarely shoot big calibers double action.



Unless you are married to blued steel, a 686 will be easier to find.  They age better for obvious reasons...  Mine is a mid 90s 6 inch -4 model.




 
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