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4/16/2013 2:44:49 PM EDT
I'm sure its silly, but what the hell were shotgun shells made of before plastics?

Cardboard? Paper? Seashells?



I may have to turn in my Gun-guy card
4/16/2013 2:45:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Paper, before that brass.

I've shot paper hulled shotgun shells before.



Speed
4/16/2013 2:45:43 PM EDT
[#2]
I have seen cardboard ones and brass ones.
4/16/2013 2:49:10 PM EDT
[#3]
kraft paper.
4/16/2013 2:49:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Paper, before that brass.
I've shot paper hulled shotgun shells before.

Speed


What a trip.

I figured as much but couldn't be sure. The soon-to-be wife unit and I were watching Tombstone and the thought just hit me.
4/16/2013 2:56:30 PM EDT
[#5]
Federal still makes a Gold Med Paper round for trap and skeet shooters.  Longer life out of the hulls when reloading and shooting a lot.


 
4/16/2013 2:57:56 PM EDT
[#6]
You don't own any cardboard shells?

I have some 16 Gauge that are.
4/16/2013 3:00:21 PM EDT
[#7]
I still have some paper ones, I shot those a lot as a kid.
4/16/2013 3:00:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Cardboard.  My dad was a kid when they were still in use and said if it rained you had to punch the unfired shells out of the chamber with a stick down the muzzle, because the paper would swell up.
4/16/2013 3:00:58 PM EDT
[#9]
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You don't own any cardboard shells?

I have some 16 Gauge that are.


I saw some in cabelas.  British made.  Some clay snobs say paper patterns better
4/16/2013 3:01:08 PM EDT
[#10]
Turn it in.
Paper, I seem to recall shooting some of those years ago.
I still have a handfull of them.
4/16/2013 3:10:33 PM EDT
[#11]
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You don't own any cardboard shells?

I have some 16 Gauge that are.


I saw some in cabelas.  British made.  Some clay snobs say paper patterns better


Federal Gold Medal Paper is arguably the best clays ammunition you can have.   It does have less felt recoil than plastic hulls.
4/16/2013 3:15:42 PM EDT
[#12]
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Federal still makes a Gold Med Paper round for trap and skeet shooters.  Longer life out of the hulls when reloading and shooting a lot.
 


Explain please. Reloading paper hulls?


One of the reasons I asked this question was because I would have thought the pressure from the combustion would annihilate the paper/cardboard shell.

Sooo, I guess not, huh?
4/16/2013 3:26:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Federal still makes a Gold Med Paper round for trap and skeet shooters.  Longer life out of the hulls when reloading and shooting a lot.
 


Explain please. Reloading paper hulls?


One of the reasons I asked this question was because I would have thought the pressure from the combustion would annihilate the paper/cardboard shell.

Sooo, I guess not, huh?


The Gold Medal Paper hulls by Federal are very reloadable.   Many reloaders can get 8-12 reloads out of one.
4/16/2013 3:31:16 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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Federal still makes a Gold Med Paper round for trap and skeet shooters.  Longer life out of the hulls when reloading and shooting a lot.
 


Explain please. Reloading paper hulls?


One of the reasons I asked this question was because I would have thought the pressure from the combustion would annihilate the paper/cardboard shell.

Sooo, I guess not, huh?


Take a quality paper, you can fold it and unfold it tons of time before it rips.  Now take plastic, you can only fold plastic so many times before it becomes weak where the fold is.  What happens is when the crimps at the end of the shotgun shell fail to hold...out pours all your shot.  With paper hulls,  8-12 reloads is not a problem.  With plastic hulls 5-6 is pushing it.
4/16/2013 3:34:04 PM EDT
[#15]
I miss the smell of just fired paper hulls.   It smells like.....America as it used to be...
4/16/2013 3:37:10 PM EDT
[#16]
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I miss the smell of just fired paper hulls.   It smells like.....America as it used to be...


Red dot smells good.  
4/16/2013 3:41:18 PM EDT
[#17]



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Cardboard.  My dad was a kid when they were still in use and said if it rained you had to punch the unfired shells out of the chamber with a stick down the muzzle, because the paper would swell up.


That is the reason the military used brass or aluminum shells until plastic came on the market.



 
4/16/2013 3:41:22 PM EDT
[#18]
TY Bud and Beardog.

I have questions, Arfcom delivers. I love this place.




The reloadable paper hull is still blowin' my mind tho
4/16/2013 3:51:42 PM EDT
[#19]
Does any company currently make the brass shells?  I'd love to get a box or two to go with my coach gun
4/16/2013 3:59:22 PM EDT
[#20]



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Does any company currently make the brass shells?  I'd love to get a box or two to go with my coach gun


Try MidwayUSA. I think there are still companies (or company) making the unloaded brass hulls for the cowboy action shooters.



 
4/16/2013 4:03:43 PM EDT
[#21]
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Cardboard.  My dad was a kid when they were still in use and said if it rained you had to punch the unfired shells out of the chamber with a stick down the muzzle, because the paper would swell up.


They were covered in wax too,my dad had a few boxes that he left out in the garage for years,they all melted together.
4/16/2013 4:20:11 PM EDT
[#22]
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Paper, before that brass.
I've shot paper hulled shotgun shells before.

Speed


I have 4-5 unopened boxes a paper hulled stuff at arms length right now. Might sell it to some collectors
4/16/2013 4:22:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Wax paper but plastic ones are way better.
4/16/2013 4:26:34 PM EDT
[#24]
I used to load many federal paper hulls, a thing of pure beauty, always crimped nice.
4/16/2013 4:28:10 PM EDT
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4/16/2013 4:30:05 PM EDT
[#26]
Rolled paper.  



They are still available from numerous manufacturers.  Federal paper target loads are the choice of discriminating target shooters.  They have the finest aroma when fired, and paper shells are said to result in lower felt recoil as compared to compression or tube formed plastic hulls.  Personally, I can feel the difference.
4/16/2013 4:53:49 PM EDT
[#27]
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I miss the smell of just fired paper hulls.   It smells like.....America as it used to be...


+1
4/16/2013 5:21:00 PM EDT
[#28]

Have shot and reloaded a LOT of paper shells.  Always get the nicest crimps from paper.
4/16/2013 5:25:50 PM EDT
[#29]
My uncle and I still reload 12 gauge paper hulls. They crimp nice.
4/16/2013 5:41:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Does any company currently make the brass shells?  I'd love to get a box or two to go with my coach gun

Try MidwayUSA. I think there are still companies (or company) making the unloaded brass hulls for the cowboy action shooters.
 


The Russian companies(Silver Bear and Brown Bear) come to mind, as do CBC. Only ones I ever fored were .410 buckshot that I bought just for shots and giggles, but I think they load 12 and 20 as well.
4/16/2013 7:16:36 PM EDT
[#31]



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I miss the smell of just fired paper hulls.   It smells like.....America as it used to be...




+1




You don't have to miss it.  Go buy two boxes and shoot them.  Then put them in a mesh satchel (think onion bag) and toss them in the back seat of your ride.  



Betwixt the heavenly scents of Federal Papers, Cigars, and Old Spice I literally have women with daddy issues running down the street after my truck.



 
4/16/2013 7:22:07 PM EDT
[#32]
As others said paper. I have a few and have shot a lot over the years. Remington did a run if brass a few years back. They were in a metal tin as well.

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4/16/2013 7:25:31 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Paper, before that brass.
I've shot paper hulled shotgun shells before.

Speed


What a trip.

I figured as much but couldn't be sure. The soon-to-be wife unit and I were watching Tombstone and the thought just hit me.

Pictures of soon-to-be