[ARCHIVED THREAD] - They hate us (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/10/2013 12:38:11 AM EDT
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I think we can all agree upon that.
But why do they hate us? Not just 2nd Amendment supporters, but taxpayers. They seem to have an agenda, socialism, certainly. But when before in our country's history has there been a pogrom waged against the people who foot the bill? I don't understand this, the way things are going. It's not a sustainable model of anything. I truly don't mean to be a tin-foiled asshole, but what good can come from all of this? Am I insane to think that something I would have never considered possible again in this country is brewing? My heart aches to think of it. |
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........My heart aches to think of it. I was going through my mental equations to a better life this evening, such as "reduce stress" and was thinking how I've done that. Tuning out those who are upsetting, cooking, living my life to my standards........... .......................and then the current political picture came back to mind. For how I reduce my stress, there seems to be other things to replace such. _________________________________________________________________________________ (" There's a growing imbalance of body functions, as if in our bodies huge amounts of adrenalin were constantly being pumped into our bloodstreams. Now, I can't trace it down in my biocomps. Spock won't tell me what it is. But if it isn't stopped somehow, the physical and emotional pressures will simply kill him. "--McCoy, (w,stte), ST:TOS, "Amok Time") |
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Short term instant gratification funded by someone else? It's an inevitability. Why would America be immune from the same fucking stupidity that has infected almost every other free nation on the planet. Quite fucking true! I don't think the majority of Americans realize just how "Obama-care" is going to rape them directly and individually though. Truly fucking rape all of us. Oh, and btw, give up your 2A rights, 'cause it's for the children and shit. Hand 'em over though, no foolies... yeah... nothing good... nothing good goin' on around here... |
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Its reality. They want it, and they're no longer pretending or beating around the bush about it. The thing that they want is complete control over you. They crave that control so much that liberal lawmakers aren't even fearing or pretending to listen to the public anymore while making their decisions to steal more from you or take your rights away. I think if America hasn't learned by November 2014 what they need to do, then we are all looking at disasterous consequences far worst than what you could have imagined. I honestly would rather deal with us getting bombed or attacked by another country in the middle of a war right now then have to deal with anymore of this liberal commie bullshit.
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Short term instant gratification funded by someone else? It's an inevitability. Why would America be immune from the same fucking stupidity that has infected almost every other free nation on the planet. Well our founders tried to put into place a document and system to delay that situation as long as possible. I think the lesson learned is that words can always be circumvented. Much more so than bullets. |
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........My heart aches to think of it. I was going through my mental equations to a better life this evening, such as "reduce stress" and was thinking how I've done that. Tuning out those who are upsetting, cooking, living my life to my standards........... .......................and then the current political picture came back to mind. For how I reduce my stress, there seems to be other things to replace such. _________________________________________________________________________________ (" There's a growing imbalance of body functions, as if in our bodies huge amounts of adrenalin were constantly being pumped into our bloodstreams. Now, I can't trace it down in my biocomps. Spock won't tell me what it is. But if it isn't stopped somehow, the physical and emotional pressures will simply kill him. "--McCoy, (w,stte), ST:TOS, "Amok Time") Snow, it's not in my nature to be a pessimist. Life's easier and more enjoyable, less stressful looking at the bright side. I've always tried to live along those lines. I'm realistic, but still try to see a good side in most everything. And I just can't see any good in some things anymore. Some things. |
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They do hate us very very much and it reveals the ultimate hypocrisy of the left. They march in the streets against hate, pass anti-hate laws, and preach how wrong it is to hate anyone based on race, religion, nationality, sexual orientation, etc...
And yet they are true blue haters in the first degree. With us they have simply found a group they can "safely" hate with no abandon and no conscience. To the contemporary liberal, it's somehow OK or justifiable to hate conservatives, Christians, gun owners, hunters, etc... and yet they'll happily and readily fleece us as a monetary resource. Just another example of leftist hypocrisy and agenda. I think we are now seeing the results from a flip-flop of the mainstream vs counter-culture paradigm. |
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A lot of it is a radically different view of government and people's intentions.
I have family members who are upper middle class (wealthy enough to own a boat, and have a comfortable retirement). Retired military. Well educated. Federal empoyee who bitches all the time about how shitty government bosses and coworkers are. Yet, they are very liberal. They don't think they will pay for Obamacare because "well, we're not really that rich. We're not the 1%." They are ok with common-sense gun control like "may issue" permits because they trust the authorities to make good, reasonable decisions ("well, the DA wouldn't actually put someone in jail for years over magazines, which nobody needs anyways, because that'd be mean!"). They're ok with more spending ("well, my government coworkers suck and waste money but these other dollars will be wisely spent!") and taxes ("we're not the 1%, they wouldn't hit us"). They refuse to believe that inflation is being used already to pay for debs; even if you point out that fuel is up 6-9% per year over the last decade, not 2-3% as CPI would have you believe, using easily verifiable statistics -- "the government wouldn't do that intentionally to pay down debts, that's foolish." On the other hand, I look at every law from the perspective of "how could this fuck me?" I realize that a lot of the new taxes are NOT indexed to inflation, meaning that more and more people will fall into the "wealthy" bracket every year (surprise, Obamacare!). I look at "may issue" and see a history of racism and discrimination. I don't trust police officers or DAs with much discretion, and I know that ridicilous sentences are used to extract plea bargains and void jury trials. A lot of it has to do with the MSM, I think. I don't watch much MSM TV but I catch some occasionally and am always shocked at how vapid it is. I think most MSM programs are prepared at a 7th grade level and they definitely have an AgitProp political agenda. The average American watches hours of TV every day. Sit down one day and make yourself watch an hour of a stupid morning show before work, turn on an episode of Oprah when you get home, suffer through an episode of "the View" and tune in for two hours of evening news programs. Now imagine absorbing that filth every day... for years. 
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I don't care what anyone watches on the tv. They need to open their eyes and understand not just that this thing will inconvenience them, but how it will attempt to bankrupt ALL of us. Your parents, you, me, all of us.
If this shit is allowed to continue we'll ALL OF US be dependent upon the gov't within three years. ALL OF US.. 
Things have taken a wrong turn, yes? |
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When you remove the shame for being on welfare, you remove any shame they might have in demanding more of whatever they feel entitled to. At some point that morphs into something being wrong with YOU for objecting to their ever-increasing demands ( you're 'heartless/ racist/ classist/ white-privileged", etc)
The latest section 8 complex in my county has opened its doors, and I had to go there yesterday looking to serve a resident with some paperwork. I stopped in at the main office, and the person there had the audacity to chirp up about not having to tell the police where the person I was looking for was living in the complex. I said, "you'd better get used to seeing us, given who your clientele is". She rolled her eyes and said they'd already spoken to the local PD that will be the primary agency for that area.The people who build these complexes pitch them as affordable housing for blue collar workers and then fill them with section 8 tenants. Then we wind up having to spend wayyyy too much time in those complexes. As soon as I left the complex office I ran into three criminals I know from trailer parks elsewhere in the county. That poor village PD is going to be running its ass off due to the infusion of new crooks into their tiny village. They tried warning the village mayor who pushed the project through...."blue collar folks need affordable housing, dontcha know..." Why we feel the need to put people who have no idea of how to properly live into nice section 8 complexes, I'll never know. |
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Yes the hate is strong with them.
They see now as the time to make the final break and reign in the non-believers. No one should believe they are too stupid to see the outcome at the end. Most of them are not stupid. But faith in a system of beliefs will always cloud out reasoning. |
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They hate us because they hate Humanity as a whole.
Abortion Easy Divorce Dehumanizing State Education Soul Crushing Conformity State Enforced Slavery Through High Taxes Health Care By Cost, Not Compassion Euthanasia For The Elderly State Confiscation Of All Inheritance At every point in a person's life, from birth until even after death, Leftists choose the way that causes the greatest damage and pain to the human spirit. |
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Quoted: They have been told, and believe (partly because it relieves them of the responsibility) that those that have got it by stealing from those that do not.I think we can all agree upon that. But why do they hate us? Not just 2nd Amendment supporters, but taxpayers. They seem to have an agenda, socialism, certainly. But when before in our country's history has there been a pogrom waged against the people who foot the bill? I don't understand this, the way things are going. It's not a sustainable model of anything. I truly don't mean to be a tin-foiled asshole, but what good can come from all of this? Am I insane to think that something I would have never considered possible again in this country is brewing? My heart aches to think of it. Of course, anyone who can critically think past the level of a 6 grader would know that is BS, but see the parentheses above. So of course they hate you, you owe them plenty and you gripe at being force to give your fair share. |
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They hate us because they hate Humanity as a whole. Abortion Easy Divorce Dehumanizing State Education Soul Crushing Conformity State Enforced Slavery Through High Taxes Health Care By Cost, Not Compassion Euthanasia For The Elderly State Confiscation Of All Inheritance At every point in a person's life, from birth until even after death, Leftists choose the way that causes the greatest damage and pain to the human spirit. If gay marriage passes, I'll marry my son and he can keep my estate as community property. 
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I think we can all agree upon that. But why do they hate us? Not just 2nd Amendment supporters, but taxpayers. They seem to have an agenda, socialism, certainly. But when before in our country's history has there been a pogrom waged against the people who foot the bill? I don't understand this, the way things are going. It's not a sustainable model of anything. I truly don't mean to be a tin-foiled asshole, but what good can come from all of this? Am I insane to think that something I would have never considered possible again in this country is brewing? My heart aches to think of it. These are the same idiots that voted someone in with a campaign of "Hope and Change", instead of focusing on what once was one of the most successful nations in the world they think they can make it better and us "Old Thinkers" are interfering with all the "Change" |
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Rules for Radicals.
The Media. The Education System. Those elected by those whom are dumbed down, fed disinfo, enter a 5th generation into their school of thought, backed with the stupidity on TV. yes. we'll have people to ... .....
I don't know what else to say. That's the herd on that side. Thankfully 
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They hate us because they hate Humanity as a whole. Abortion Easy Divorce Dehumanizing State Education Soul Crushing Conformity State Enforced Slavery Through High Taxes Health Care By Cost, Not Compassion Euthanasia For The Elderly State Confiscation Of All Inheritance At every point in a person's life, from birth until even after death, Leftists choose the way that causes the greatest damage and pain to the human spirit. If gay marriage passes, I'll marry my son and he can keep my estate as community property. Play it right and the silly fucks might actually subsidize the marriage.  
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Its reality. They want it, and they're no longer pretending or beating around the bush about it. The thing that they want is complete control over you. They crave that control so much that liberal lawmakers aren't even fearing or pretending to listen to the public anymore while making their decisions to steal more from you or take your rights away. I think if America hasn't learned by November 2014 what they need to do, then we are all looking at disasterous consequences far worst than what you could have imagined. I honestly would rather deal with us getting bombed or attacked by another country in the middle of a war right now then have to deal with anymore of this liberal commie bullshit. Nailed it. Thanks. |
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These are the same idiots that voted someone in with a campaign of "Hope and Change", instead of focusing on what once was one of the most successful nations in the world they think they can make it better and us "Old Thinkers" are interfering with all the "Change" How many votes did Romney lose because he threatened to put people back to work? |
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When you start to understand the truth that socialism-Marxism-communism is really more of a crazy religious cult than a system of government it all starts to make sense, and the Kenyan is it's Pope!
This is why no matter how much logic you throw @ a Socialist it does not register. The idea of Socialism as a religious cult first dawned on me years ago after watching former KGB agent Yuri Beznekov (spelling?) interview, he mentions how after the Socialist take over a nation the liberals still do not understand what has happened, "even after the rifle butt & boot of the secret police hits them". Everyone here should watch Yuris interview. |
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Short term instant gratification funded by someone else? It's an inevitability. Why would America be immune from the same fucking stupidity that has infected almost every other free nation on the planet. Well our founders tried to put into place a document and system to delay that situation as long as possible. I think the lesson learned is that words can always be circumvented. Much more so than bullets. "There is never a democracy that did not commit sucicide".....John Adams. Political Elites know and see what is coming. Tin Foil hat types might believe "they" (the ones who hate us) are causing it on purpose-My belief is that "they" don't want you on "their" planet screwing up "their" world. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and Religious people-It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other"...John Adams. "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by evil"....Plato. |
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When you start to understand the truth that socialism-Marxism-communism is really more of a crazy religious cult than a system of government it all starts to make sense, and the Kenyan is it's Pope! This is why no matter how much logic you throw @ a Socialist it does not register. The idea of Socialism as a religious cult first dawned on me years ago after watching former KGB agent Yuri Beznekov (spelling?) interview, he mentions how after the Socialist take over a nation the liberals still do not understand what has happened, "even after the rifle butt & boot of the secret police hits them". Everyone here should watch Yuris interview. You hit it pretty good on the liberals not understanding when they have a boot on their neck or worse. They always fail to understand that the intellectual elites and the propagandist are the first ones lined up against a wall and shot by a totalitarian regime. |
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When you start to understand the truth that socialism-Marxism-communism is really more of a crazy religious cult than a system of government it all starts to make sense, and the Kenyan is it's Pope! This is why no matter how much logic you throw @ a Socialist it does not register. The idea of Socialism as a religious cult first dawned on me years ago after watching former KGB agent Yuri Beznekov (spelling?) interview, he mentions how after the Socialist take over a nation the liberals still do not understand what has happened, "even after the rifle butt & boot of the secret police hits them". Everyone here should watch Yuris interview. This is no fuckin' shit. My Russian Culture's prof in college had grown up in the Soviet Union before moving here after the collapse. She had really fucked up stories from being a child. Stuff like, "They told us Stalin was always in our heart so I was afraid to sleep on my left side because I was afraid I would crush him". |
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You need to understand that Liberals, like Women, are mentally children trapped in an adult's body.
In 21st century America, they are extremely spoiled children and the political system has changed so they have more or less equal control of the country. They want whatever feels right, regardless of reality. They "hate" us because we are keeping them from having whatever shiny new toy they want this week. You can't use logic and reason with them. If you try, they just throw a temper tantrum. |
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When you start to understand the truth that socialism-Marxism-communism is really more of a crazy religious cult than a system of government it all starts to make sense, and the Kenyan is it's Pope! This is why no matter how much logic you throw @ a Socialist it does not register. The idea of Socialism as a religious cult first dawned on me years ago after watching former KGB agent Yuri Beznekov (spelling?) interview, he mentions how after the Socialist take over a nation the liberals still do not understand what has happened, "even after the rifle butt & boot of the secret police hits them". Everyone here should watch Yuris interview. You're really turning it into way more of some evil conspiracy than you need to. Some Americans have a different view on what the legitimate role of government in society is and what services should be provided by gov't. It is as simple as that. |
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When you start to understand the truth that socialism-Marxism-communism is really more of a crazy religious cult than a system of government it all starts to make sense, and the Kenyan is it's Pope! This is why no matter how much logic you throw @ a Socialist it does not register. The idea of Socialism as a religious cult first dawned on me years ago after watching former KGB agent Yuri Beznekov (spelling?) interview, he mentions how after the Socialist take over a nation the liberals still do not understand what has happened, "even after the rifle butt & boot of the secret police hits them". Everyone here should watch Yuris interview. Yep. Government flavored Kool-Aid is really really sweet. Even better then soda pop. |
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Come on guys, quit being dangerous reactionary racist subversives!! don't you know that Dear Leader has a teaspoon of pigment in his skin? that's a game changer! that means you're all racists! Stop disagreeing with him! We have the worst of everything: endless war and unpayable debt and east-german-style socialism and crony capitalism. Huge corporations and an unbelievably gigantic government are strip-mining the middle class out of existence while we all sit and watch "dancing with the stars" and make car payments on $40,000 SUVs. Ahhh.... the good life! |