Posted: 4/2/2013 6:48:53 PM EDT
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Seen 0 Dark Thirty, have yet to read No Easy Day
Not at all criticizing, but whats the 'rule' about shooting the apparently unarmed in a situation like that? Just trying to understand. Bored at work. 
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| They said in the book if they could take them alive they would. First person they ran into was shooting at them. After that it was game on. I believe the khalid guy had a gun only one that didnt was UBL. The chicks that got shot ended up that way cause they leaped in front of men getting lit up. They were also nervous about suicide vests. |
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I have no knowledge of their guidelines regarding their use of force, but... I would imagine that they are never issued specific "take no prisoner" orders, but there are probably times when they are told that certain raids are focused on the goal of eliminating enemy threats. There's no way in hell that we wanted Bin Laden taken alive. |
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I would think the term "suicide bomber" was bandied about quite a bit in the planning. And with good reason. Indeed. Bin Laden publicized very often that he was going to go down fighting and not allow himself to be taken prisoner. I have no problem with anyone that takes him for his word and puts one between his running lights. |
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I'm going to assume they have very few "rules" on a raid like that. And you'd be wrong. Go on... That's why you have teams like DEVGRU and CAG, etc. They excel in executing a mission in a very specific situation. They are also comprised of operators that are very capable of executing a mission in the absence of orders or situations that demand flexability. They're the starting lineup for a reason. Edited fer spellin |
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I'm going to assume they have very few "rules" on a raid like that. And you'd be wrong. Go on... That's why you have teams like DEVGRU and CAG, etc. They excel in executing a mission in a very specific situation. They are also comprised of operators that are very capable of executing a mission in the absence of orders or situations that demand flexability. They're the starting lineup for a reason. Edited fer spellin I understand that, the original question was: but whats the 'rule' about shooting the apparently unarmed in a situation like that?
Again I'm assuming, but id think that they have a lot of latitude with regards to whatever "rules" are in place the second someone shoots at them. They're not there to pass out lollipops and teach them English. |
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I'm going to assume they have very few "rules" on a raid like that. And you'd be wrong. Go on... That's why you have teams like DEVGRU and CAG, etc. They excel in executing a mission in a very specific situation. They are also comprised of operators that are very capable of executing a mission in the absence of orders or situations that demand flexability. They're the starting lineup for a reason. Edited fer spellin I understand that, the original question was: but whats the 'rule' about shooting the apparently unarmed in a situation like that?
Again I'm assuming, but id think that they have a lot of latitude with regards to whatever "rules" are in place the second someone shoots at them. They're not there to pass out lollipops and teach them English. The best of the best don't shoot "apparently unarmed" civilians. And they are briefed very frequently by experts in international law. The last thing they wanted to do in the OBL raid was to get their dicks slapped for breaking faggoty rules. 
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I'm going to assume they have very few "rules" on a raid like that. And you'd be wrong. Go on... That's why you have teams like DEVGRU and CAG, etc. They excel in executing a mission in a very specific situation. They are also comprised of operators that are very capable of executing a mission in the absence of orders or situations that demand flexability. They're the starting lineup for a reason. Edited fer spellin I understand that, the original question was: but whats the 'rule' about shooting the apparently unarmed in a situation like that?
Again I'm assuming, but id think that they have a lot of latitude with regards to whatever "rules" are in place the second someone shoots at them. They're not there to pass out lollipops and teach them English. The best of the best don't shoot "apparently unarmed" civilians. And they are briefed very frequently by experts in international law. The last thing they wanted to do in the OBL raid was to get their dicks slapped for breaking faggoty rules. Lol agreed |
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I'm going to assume they have very few "rules" on a raid like that. And you'd be wrong. Go on... That's why you have teams like DEVGRU and CAG, etc. They excel in executing a mission in a very specific situation. They are also comprised of operators that are very capable of executing a mission in the absence of orders or situations that demand flexability. They're the starting lineup for a reason. Edited fer spellin Hands hidden, still moving= shoot, is my guess. People with that much training realize how fast they can be killed by the enemy. Bob Munden could kill anyone in the country before they were able to pull the trigger given they were waiting for him to make the first move with a holstered gun. .27 seconds from buzzer to shot on target IIRC. There used to be a number of people .5 and under. |
| They received fire, and returned fire, at the guest house killing the male occupant shooting at them. After that, the gloves came off and it was game on. Plus, from what I have been told, DEVGRU is known not to leave enemy combatants breathing, unlike their Army counterparts. |
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Anyone who runs is V.C. Anyone who doesn't run, is a well disciplined V.C. ain't war hell  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI
"How can you shoot women and children like that........It's easy you don't lead'em as much." Not cool .......but I laughed my ass off seeing that the first time. |
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Quoted: Under .5 on the draw is easy if you are the one moving first. It's the doing it in reaction to the buzzer that gets people.Hands hidden, still moving= shoot, is my guess. People with that much training realize how fast they can be killed by the enemy. Bob Munden could kill anyone in the country before they were able to pull the trigger given they were waiting for him to make the first move with a holstered gun. .27 seconds from buzzer to shot on target IIRC. There used to be a number of people .5 and under. |