Posted: 3/28/2013 6:29:58 PM EDT
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Just curious as to why all the hate for the SERPA holsters?
Are they causing ND's into peoples thighs or some shit? I don't own one, but I see alot of them... And also hear alot of haters hatin on em. Thoughts? |
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it's the go-to open carry holster for my sig, but the ability for debris to jam the mechanism (requiring the holster to be cut apart to retrieve the gun) means that i wouldn't want to be banging around the woods with it. the ND aspect is not something that i worry too much about.
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Quoted: I love mine. The USMC issues them now. I think people complained that the retention system can get jammed with debris causing you to not be able to draw the weapon. That plus the design can make it more likely that a careless person can shoot himself SERPA and objecting to muzzle up are issues where I am surprised that people who seem to be obviously much more knowledgeable than I seem, to me, to be completely in left field. The thread above hashes out the usual arguments on both sides. |
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Quoted: I Personaly don't like the SERPA but the hate seems to stem from Internet teir 1 bullsh1t Um, no. they are shit holsters*with a history of failing but some military units use them plus either 1 the Olympic arms defense: "mine never broke" or 2 "I am too bad ass to get knocked down in some gravel in a fight" Honestly the defense of these things stumps me. [scratches head] * I mean there are plenty of reliable reports of them jamming.
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I love mine. The USMC issues them now. I think people complained that the retention system can get jammed with debris causing you to not be able to draw the weapon. That plus the design can make it more likely that a careless person can shoot himself People who fit this description don't need to be around guns regardless of what holster they choose. |
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Word on the internet is that the apparatus that holds it to the belt is weak enough that they can break in a disarm attempt. I can tell you first hand that this is not true any more so than any other polymer holster, so that's a null argument. 
And other issues: http://www.hillpeoplegear.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=btDNeHTpjpI%3D |
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I don't like them because of their weak system of attaching the shank to the holster. I broke 3 with very little effort. The claim of fouling the lock is a very real concern, especially in an area that gets snow. If you're using it to carry a pellet gun or air soft I guess it would be fine. No, I don't like the serpa. I'll stick with Safariland.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love mine. The USMC issues them now. I think people complained that the retention system can get jammed with debris causing you to not be able to draw the weapon. That plus the design can make it more likely that a careless person can shoot himself People who fit this description don't need to be around guns regardless of what holster they choose. Holsters need to be designed in a way so as to make accidental discharges less likely. People make mistakes with guns, chainsaws and cars. No one sells holsters with exposed triggers anymore, cars come with seat belts and safety glass. If you sell x thousands of holsters to the military and police part of the bell curve of those users are going to be careless people.
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Quoted: I was part of testing holsters for my department. The SERPAs were easily broken by pushing down and forward. I tried in earnest to break the Safariland off the shank. I even hung my gun belt on a tree and did pull ups holding on to the holster. It held fast. Quoted: Word on the internet is that the apparatus that holds it to the belt is weak enough that they can break in a disarm attempt. I can tell you first hand that this is not true any more so than any other polymer holster, so that's a null argument. The Safariland is polymer too. Their mounting system is just that much better. The SERPA imbeds 3 nuts into the plastic (if I remember correctly it was .078" covering the nuts). Safariland uses a t nut type of apparatus under 2 layers of holster material ( if I remember correctly) .23" not including the shank. That's a significant difference! |
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i bought 6 of the police duty type holster for sig 226, from uncle sam surplus ( drmo). i got them for a great price, ( $25.00 each), gunshop sells them for $75.00 or so. I was thinking of getting the thigh adapter for carrying them that way. i have never ad any problems, and like tem, but have not really beat around with them a lot. just range use.
the firearm getting " locked", into the holster due to debris, is very troubling to me. im thinking about getting some of the safariland thigh holsters to replace them. |
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I FUCKING ROST    
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I was part of testing holsters for my department. The SERPAs were easily broken by pushing down and forward. I tried in earnest to break the Safariland off the shank. I even hung my gun belt on a tree and did pull ups holding on to the holster. It held fast.
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Word on the internet is that the apparatus that holds it to the belt is weak enough that they can break in a disarm attempt. I can tell you first hand that this is not true any more so than any other polymer holster, so that's a null argument. The Safariland is polymer too. Their mounting system is just that much better. The SERPA imbeds 3 nuts into the plastic (if I remember correctly it was .078" covering the nuts). Safariland uses a t nut type of apparatus under 2 layers of holster material ( if I remember correctly) .23" not including the shank. That's a significant difference! This. I have 2-3 serpas that I've had for several years. I have 2 safariland holsters that I use for duty holsters. The safarilands are clearly more solidly constructed. I don't care for the serpa, mainly because all I ever used them for was for off-duty carry, and they do not conceal particularly well. Especially when compared to a pancake style kydex holster. |