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Posted: 9/27/2002 12:22:47 PM EDT
This is disgusting. [url]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=11&u=/ap/20020927/ap_on_re_us/bank_slayings[/url]
All the suspects have criminal records, mostly involving drugs and weapons charges. [red]Vela was charged a week ago with carrying a concealed weapon,[/red] while Sandoval and Rodriguez spent time in prison for burglary.
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They won't let their people even have PERMITS and then when they catch a CARRER CRIMINAL with violating the law-they let him go to commit murder! The citizens of that state need to clean house!
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 12:25:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: The citizens of that state need to clean house!
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Actually, this whole Fing country needs to clean house. Sgtar15
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 12:45:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/27/2002 12:46:38 PM EDT by osprey21]
Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: The citizens of that state need to clean house!
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Actually, this whole Fing country needs to clean house. Sgtar15
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[size=6]Sí Señor..[/size=6]
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 1:51:49 PM EDT
[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020927/lthumb.1033133579.bank_slayings_xne101.jpg[/img]murder victim Lisa Bryant, 29, shown here with her husband. One of the 4 bank employees murdered. Her killers: [img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020927/lthumb.1033153732.bank_slayings_xne107.jpg[/img]Jorge Alberto Galindo [img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020927/lthumb.1033153639.bank_slayings_xne108.jpg[/img]Erick Fernando Vela (the one who was arrested and released) [img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020927/lthumb.1033153481.bank_slayings_xne110.jpg[/img]Gabriel Alan Rodriguez [img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020927/lthumb.1033153410.bank_slayings_xne109.jpg[/img]Jose Mario Sandoval
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 2:48:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: This is disgusting. [url]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=11&u=/ap/20020927/ap_on_re_us/bank_slayings[/url]
All the suspects have criminal records, mostly involving drugs and weapons charges. [red]Vela was charged a week ago with carrying a concealed weapon,[/red] while Sandoval and Rodriguez spent time in prison for burglary.
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They won't let their people even have PERMITS and then when they catch a CARRER CRIMINAL with violating the law-they let him go to commit murder! The citizens of that state need to clean house!
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Armd, Keep in mind that he was [i]charged[/i] last week, [i]not convicted[/i]. Was he out on bail until his trial? Did the weapon he was carrying warrant him being locked up and bail denied? The CCW ban is just one of the laws that need to change. The state's definition of a weapon needs to change, too, and that will happen before we get CCW. If a person is carrying a folding knife with a blade of 3.5" or more in his pocket covered up by a coat, he is carrying a concealed "weapon." For crying out loud, my Benchmade Axis 710 has a blade longer than that (3.9")! Is it [i]really[/i] a weapon? In Louisiana, that same knife can be carried concealed, and it's not considered a weapon (I did just that when I lived there). Now that I've moved to Nebraska (Norfolk to be exact. I knew Samuel Sun), I can't carry it concealed and would be considered a criminal. All because of .4" of steel. I can't even carry a decent knife to defend myself with, let alone a gun! While I would love to remove a couple certain state senators from office, we don't need to "clean house."
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 2:52:45 PM EDT
damn those fucks look like criminals! i say hang 'em. then shoot their nuts off.
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:07:05 PM EDT
Redray, you got it backwards...[devil]
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:07:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By redray: damn those fucks look like criminals! i say hang 'em. then shoot their nuts off.
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Reverse the order, redray!
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:09:51 PM EDT
Banning concealed weapons is supposed to be a preventive measure. Obviously it is a failure. Permits are just a compromise, Vermonts laws are what are really needed.
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:12:43 PM EDT
somebody please tell me they're illegals. please. 'cause then maybe we can finally [b][size=6][red]do something about illegal immigration.[/red][/size=6][/b]
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:19:41 PM EDT
You know I thought the whole friggin' country learned, oh, let's say last Sept 11th, that the borders needed to be closed and those who are in this country illegally rounded up and deported, ASAP. I suppose not. If Sept 11th ain't gonna change anyone's mind, what the Hell will it take? Eric The(F***TheGovernment!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:26:05 PM EDT
Eric, I just have to wonder why we don't do the logical thing, and control our borders. Is there an agenda at work? Did the DEMs really allow it to happen so they can get votes? If so, why is GW allowing it to happen? What in the HEdoublehockeysticks is going on? [stick][stick][stick][stick][stick][stick] [stick][stick][stick][stick][stick][stick] [stick][stick][stick][stick][stick][stick]
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:40:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/27/2002 3:48:23 PM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
They weren't illegal. Their parents might have been though. Update, Vela was arrested for carrying a 9mm handgun concealed: [url]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=15&u=/ap/20020927/ap_on_re_us/bank_slayings[/url]
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:46:28 PM EDT
I get the feeling they came here legally to work in the meatpacking plants, but they may be illegals. I heard from my relatives in Iowa that quite a lot of Mexicans are up there as well also working in the meatpacking plants. Apparently, the locals don't want to work there, so they're importing Mexicans to do the work.
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:50:29 PM EDT
More proof we need to stop the infestation of this country. They need to be killed..slowly and publicly.
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 3:56:33 PM EDT
The problem is the meat packing industry insists on using obsolete plants. The mexicans are the only people they can get to work in them. There is no technical reason for a human hand to ever touch a chicken, cow, or pig from the time its killed till its canned or shipped to the supermarket butcher. Robots exist that can do the job. Then not only would we not have illegal immigration, we wouldn't have the food poisoning outbreaks either:[url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020927/sc_nm/food_recall_cargill_dc_2[/url]
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 4:03:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: If Sept 11th ain't gonna change anyone's mind, what the Hell will it take?
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Revolution. Republicans and Democrats are the same thing in two different speeds, fast, and faster. The end will be the same. Scott
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 4:05:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By loonybin:
All the suspects have criminal records, mostly involving drugs and weapons charges.
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Keep in mind that he was [i]charged[/i] last week, [i]not convicted[/i].
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"Criminal Records" involves conviction, no? Scott
Link Posted: 9/27/2002 4:05:39 PM EDT
Norfolks' Hispanic community scheduled a "healing service" for Friday night at a local church. All the suspects are Hispanic and some local leaders expressed concerned that some would see the killings as a racial issue.
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Gee...ya think some people might?[;D]
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