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3/23/2013 5:29:20 PM EDT
I give you Nuclear Fission – We hold in our hands the ability to devastate our planet and population.  I find this capability to be awe inspiring and oddly beautiful despite the perils of such power - I raise my cup to humanity this night - In our short existence as a species, we have accomplished spectacular feats of innovation and invention.  

Whether we are a unique aberration in nature or a natural progression of evolution, there is no doubt that humanity is both a remarkable and complex occurrence in this world.  Look to the future my friends and do not question what we can accomplish if given the opportunity.

3/23/2013 5:32:52 PM EDT
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Yeah.  Who knows how far we can go, if we don't destroy ourselves first.
3/23/2013 5:37:46 PM EDT
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3/23/2013 5:38:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Needs some Pink Floyd playing or Iron Butterfly Or?.....


3/23/2013 5:42:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Fallout 3 anyone?
3/23/2013 5:43:27 PM EDT
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3/23/2013 5:46:57 PM EDT
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3/23/2013 5:49:47 PM EDT
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3/23/2013 5:56:45 PM EDT
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Fission done right will give us more power than we need for 1,000 years or more.

Plenty of time to make fusion work.

3/23/2013 5:57:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.
3/23/2013 6:12:38 PM EDT
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


I figured that the specifics of the technological aspects of the topic would come into play in the thread - my point is less physics oriented and more philosophical in nature. However, I do love discussions that involve humanity's advances in physics and technology. Please feel free to share your expertise.
3/23/2013 6:15:30 PM EDT
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Fission done right will give us more power than we need for 1,000 years or more.

Plenty of time to make fusion work.



I happen to agree with you. Believe me when I say that my popularity in certain "university classes" has suffered due to my support of atomic energy.
3/23/2013 6:18:43 PM EDT
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the fear of that power has brought us an unparalled era of peace.
3/23/2013 6:22:35 PM EDT
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


It was designed as a 3-stage weapon (fission-fusion-fission) but the last stage was replaced by lead for the purpose of the test. If it had been set to the full 100MT yield the majority of the energy would have been produced by fission.
3/23/2013 6:25:58 PM EDT
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the fear of that power has brought us an unparalled era of peace.


No doubt - During one of my philosophy classes, I led an argument on the topic of "Mutually Assured Destruction" and how it had acted at a positive force for peace amongst the major world powers
3/23/2013 6:26:19 PM EDT
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We've learned a lot, but frankly, we don't know shit, so don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
3/23/2013 6:28:06 PM EDT
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


It was designed as a 3-stage weapon (fission-fusion-fission) but the last stage was replaced by lead for the purpose of the test. If it had been set to the full 100MT yield the majority of the energy would have been produced by fission.


The actual detonation was only half of that yield, correct?
3/23/2013 6:33:44 PM EDT
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We've learned a lot, but frankly, we don't know shit, so don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.


This was not an attempt to say we know it all - more a general observation, some minor extolling, and a hope for a promising future. The pursuit of knowledge and understanding is unending.
3/23/2013 6:39:47 PM EDT
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We've learned a lot, but frankly, we don't know shit, so don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.


This was not an attempt to say we know it all - more a general observation, some minor extolling, and a hope for a promising future. The pursuit of knowledge and understanding is unending.


I agree.  I was merely pointing out that what we don't know is far more impressive than what we do know.   That is what I find amazing.  Perhaps the same point you were making.  







3/23/2013 6:52:13 PM EDT
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I agree.  I was merely pointing out that what we don't know is far more impressive than what we do know.   That is what I find amazing.  Perhaps the same point you were making.  


It is.
3/23/2013 7:00:28 PM EDT
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The word you are searching for is AWE...  Something that inspires reverence, respect, dread, and wonder is AWESOME...  A word that is grossly misused these days.  

3/23/2013 7:34:59 PM EDT
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The word you are searching for is AWE...  Something that inspires reverence, respect, dread, and wonder is AWESOME...  A word that is grossly misused these days.  


Yes, I believe that the word "awe" is part of my original post.
3/24/2013 5:15:38 AM EDT
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


It was designed as a 3-stage weapon (fission-fusion-fission) but the last stage was replaced by lead for the purpose of the test. If it had been set to the full 100MT yield the majority of the energy would have been produced by fission.


The actual detonation was only half of that yield, correct?


Yes.
3/24/2013 7:41:57 AM EDT
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


It was designed as a 3-stage weapon (fission-fusion-fission) but the last stage was replaced by lead for the purpose of the test. If it had been set to the full 100MT yield the majority of the energy would have been produced by fission.


The actual detonation was only half of that yield, correct?


Yes.


I may have read that the blast from a 100MT device would have killed the bomber crew, so the yield was cut in half so it could be delivered by air.
3/24/2013 7:46:27 AM EDT
[#24]
hmm i thought this was about a girl..
3/24/2013 7:47:51 AM EDT
[#25]
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


It was designed as a 3-stage weapon (fission-fusion-fission) but the last stage was replaced by lead for the purpose of the test. If it had been set to the full 100MT yield the majority of the energy would have been produced by fission.


The actual detonation was only half of that yield, correct?


Yes.


I may have read that the blast from a 100MT device would have killed the bomber crew, so the yield was cut in half so it could be delivered by air.


It would have killed the crew, and it would have caused an amount of radioactive fallout equivalent to 25% of all nuclear tests ever performed. It would have by far been the dirtiest nuke ever.
3/24/2013 8:12:34 AM EDT
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


It was designed as a 3-stage weapon (fission-fusion-fission) but the last stage was replaced by lead for the purpose of the test. If it had been set to the full 100MT yield the majority of the energy would have been produced by fission.


The actual detonation was only half of that yield, correct?


Yes.


I may have read that the blast from a 100MT device would have killed the bomber crew, so the yield was cut in half so it could be delivered by air.


It would have killed the crew, and it would have caused an amount of radioactive fallout equivalent to 25% of all nuclear tests ever performed. It would have by far been the dirtiest nuke ever.


So instead, they made a giant fucking bomb that was only 50 megatons.

Yeah.

100,000,000,000 pounds of TNT in one go.
3/24/2013 8:15:59 AM EDT
[#27]
thats a hydrogen bomb so hydrogen fusion is the majority of the blast.

The initial nuclear explosion could be either fission (uranium) or fusion (plotonium) to fuse the hydrogen. Generally fission-fusion.

3/24/2013 8:17:32 AM EDT
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thats a hydrogen bomb so hydrogen fusion is the majority of the blast.

The initial nuclear explosion could be either fission (uranium) or fusion (plotonium) to fuse the hydrogen. Generally fission-fusion.



The initiator is always a fission device. Either Uranium or Plutonium is fissioned.
3/24/2013 8:20:03 AM EDT
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thats a hydrogen bomb so hydrogen fusion is the majority of the blast.

The initial nuclear explosion could be either fission (uranium) or fusion (plotonium) to fuse the hydrogen. Generally fission-fusion.



The initiator is always a fission device. Either Uranium or Plutonium is fissioned.


plutonium is a sphere with tritium in the center imploded. Fusion.
3/24/2013 8:22:02 AM EDT
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thats a hydrogen bomb so hydrogen fusion is the majority of the blast.

The initial nuclear explosion could be either fission (uranium) or fusion (plotonium) to fuse the hydrogen. Generally fission-fusion.



The initiator is always a fission device. Either Uranium or Plutonium is fissioned.


plutonium is a sphere with tritium in the center imploded. Fusion.


The Plutonium isn't fusioned, and the tritium used in the pit (without deuterium) serves only to boost the fission.
3/24/2013 8:23:09 AM EDT
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thats a hydrogen bomb so hydrogen fusion is the majority of the blast.

The initial nuclear explosion could be either fission (uranium) or fusion (plotonium) to fuse the hydrogen. Generally fission-fusion.



The initiator is always a fission device. Either Uranium or Plutonium is fissioned.


plutonium is a sphere with tritium in the center imploded. Fusion.


stop.  It takes the fission process to create conditions for fusion.
do not confuse neutron injectors as a fusion process.

3/24/2013 8:33:49 AM EDT
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Tsar Bomba was a fusion device (H bomb), not fission.


It was designed as a 3-stage weapon (fission-fusion-fission) but the last stage was replaced by lead for the purpose of the test. If it had been set to the full 100MT yield the majority of the energy would have been produced by fission.


The actual detonation was only half of that yield, correct?


Yes.


I may have read that the blast from a 100MT device would have killed the bomber crew, so the yield was cut in half so it could be delivered by air.


It would have killed the crew, and it would have caused an amount of radioactive fallout equivalent to 25% of all nuclear tests ever performed. It would have by far been the dirtiest nuke ever.


So instead, they made a giant fucking bomb that was only 50 megatons.

Yeah.

100,000,000,000 pounds of TNT in one go.


According to Soviet propaganda, they are....errr....I mean were the leaders in military power, science, human rights, and international competition in athletics.

The fact that they took the environment into account when they cut the yield of the Tsar Bomba in half merely proves how far advanced they were in environmental concerns.  They were ahead of their time.  

Communism brings out the best in human potential.
3/24/2013 8:37:40 AM EDT
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Does anyone know the distance between the explosion and the camera location?
3/24/2013 8:55:38 AM EDT
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Does anyone know the distance between the explosion and the camera location?


I'm gonna go with "not far enough".

You could measure out the seconds between the initial blast, and the start of the roaring sound, and get a rough distance from that.

ETA: Doing it quickly, it looks like a ~13 second delay, which works out to 2.7 miles.