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3/22/2013 11:40:50 AM EDT
Ok i have been searching and reading up on gun laws in CT.

I am looking to buy a rifle or shotgun soon and have a question regarding to whether i will be able to legally purchase one.

For form 4473, question 11b and 11c asks if you have ever been convicted of a felony or crime where you could be sentenced to jail for more than year.

i was convicted of CGS 21a-279(c) in july of 2012.The penalty is no more than a $1,000 fine and up to one year in jail. Have no other convictions.

It is my understanding that i am unable to apply for a pistol permit because of this and that i will have to wait 3 years to apply for a expungement or pardon to clear my record and be able to apply for the pistol permit, but for just purchasing a firearm will i still be able to pass the background check and will i be able to complete the sale?

Thanks
Cal9126
3/22/2013 12:03:01 PM EDT
[#1]
First offense is a misdomeanor. Subsequent offenses are felonies.

21a-279(C) is a disqualifier for possessing pistols/revolvers and for obtaining a Connecticut Pistol Permit or Eligibility Certificate.


Right now, it is not a dis-qualifier for purchasing or possessing a rifle or shotgun. It is imperative that you pay close attention to pending legislation, because there are several bills that would impact your ability to purchase or possess long guns if passed and signed into law.

The other issue that you need to be mindful of is that there is a federal prohibition for persons who are unlawful users of, or are addicted to, substances. If you are still, or recently were using drugs- then you would be a federally prohibited possessor, even if you hadn't been charged or convicted in a while. Additionally, NICS uses a lookback and includes recent drug possession convictions among the criteria for issuing denials on user/addict premise, even if the offense itself isn't otherwise disqualifying. Yours should be long enough ago to not need to worry about that...
3/22/2013 12:09:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes, you can buy any long gun legally sold in the state.  You are prohibited from buying or owning a handgun until (or unless) you get a pardon, or if your misdemeanor conviction was before 1994 when they passed the state 'handgun bill' you may be able to work something out with the state so you could get your permit.

When you go to the lgs to buy your long gun and do your background check, you will be required to wait 2 weeks before taking the gun into your possession. Usually you won't get the OK on your background check until you go back 2 weeks later after filling the application out, but as long as you know you're legal your fine.  The liberals(state police) who run the checks may try to play games with you though and intentionally deny you implying to you that you're not eligible. They do this with a lot of people who are actually eligible, by testing their knowledge of the gun laws. If that happens and you are denied the gun store will give you a number to call and if you call it they will have to reverse the denial they allegedly gave you by accident.

Currently you are allowed to purchase 3 guns at once. 3 long guns in your case.
3/22/2013 12:13:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
First offense is a misdomeanor. Subsequent offenses are felonies.

21a-279(C) is a disqualifier for possessing pistols/revolvers and for obtaining a Connecticut Pistol Permit or Eligibility Certificate.


Right now, it is not a dis-qualifier for purchasing or possessing a rifle or shotgun. It is imperative that you pay close attention to pending legislation, because there are several bills that would impact your ability to purchase or possess long guns if passed and signed into law.

The other issue that you need to be mindful of is that there is a federal prohibition for persons who are unlawful users of, or are addicted to, substances. If you are still, or recently were using drugs- then you would be a federally prohibited possessor, even if you hadn't been charged or convicted in a while. Additionally, NICS uses a lookback and includes recent drug possession convictions among the criteria for issuing denials on user/addict premise, even if the offense itself isn't otherwise disqualifying. Yours should be long enough ago to not need to worry about that...


Ok i understand that i'm unable to apply for my pistol permit and i am also aware that you are prohibited from purchasing or having a firearm if you abuse drugs etc. which i don't so i think that i should be good to go to purchase this lower receiver and have it sent to my FFL that is close to me.

I just don't want to purchase it and then have the NICS deny me and have to deal with sending the receiver back and trying to get back my money.
3/22/2013 12:25:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Yes, you can buy any long gun legally sold in the state.  You are prohibited from buying or owning a handgun until (or unless) you get a pardon, or if your misdemeanor conviction was before 1994 when they passed the state 'handgun bill' you may be able to work something out with the state so you could get your permit.

When you go to the lgs to buy your long gun and do your background check, you will be required to wait 2 weeks before taking the gun into your possession. Usually you won't get the OK on your background check until you go back 2 weeks later after filling the application out, but as long as you know you're legal your fine.  The liberals(state police) who run the checks may try to play games with you though and intentionally deny you implying to you that you're not eligible. They do this with a lot of people who are actually eligible, by testing their knowledge of the gun laws. If that happens and you are denied the gun store will give you a number to call and if you call it they will have to reverse the denial they allegedly gave you by accident.

Currently you are allowed to purchase 3 guns at once. 3 long guns in your case.


Thanks for the information!!! I'm going to try and go ahead and go through with the sale because i'm pretty sure i'm still legally allowed to purchase and own a long gun or shotgun in Connecticut. I hope the CSP don't try and pull the denial which i'm going to have to try and appeal. I am also going to do the Pardons and Expungement Process in CT in another 2 years to try and have my criminal record erased and my rights to have a pistol permit restored.

I'm a law-abiding citizen and was mixed up with the wrong crowd for a little while. So hopefully that goes well for me in the years to come.

Thanks again to JAD and you for the information guys!!!

Cal

3/22/2013 12:28:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Yes, you can buy any long gun legally sold in the state.  You are prohibited from buying or owning a handgun until (or unless) you get a pardon, or if your misdemeanor conviction was before 1994 when they passed the state 'handgun bill' you may be able to work something out with the state so you could get your permit.

When you go to the lgs to buy your long gun and do your background check, you will be required to wait 2 weeks before taking the gun into your possession. Usually you won't get the OK on your background check until you go back 2 weeks later after filling the application out, but as long as you know you're legal your fine. [violet]The liberals(state police) who run the checks may try to play games with you though and intentionally deny you implying to you that you're not eligible. They do this with a lot of people who are actually eligible, by testing their knowledge of the gun laws.[/violet] If that happens and you are denied the gun store will give you a number to call and if you call it they will have to reverse the denial they allegedly gave you by accident.

Currently you are allowed to purchase 3 guns at once. 3 long guns in your case.


The statutory prohibition is irrespective of the date of conviction. T\he prohibiting condition is the conviction, not the date of the conviction. Furthermore, even if an individual were unlawfully granted a permit, despite a prohibiting criminal history, they would still be in violation of state law by possessing the pistol.

There is sometimes confusion about a buyer's status because of the way things are reported. Those are things that can be rectified.
My understanding is that a reference number is used to initiate the wait and an authorization is obtained at the time of pick-up. That system keeps dealers honest. Some people will tell you that the 14 days gives the state an opportunity to check into a persons history- that's a false belief. The state can instantly generate approvals on persons with permits... the 2 weeks is a coolling off period.  

There is no law (or to my knowledge administrative agency regulation) that limits the number of firearms that a person may acquire at any given time here in Connecticut. My belief, based on things that I've seen, is that transactions for frequent buyrs get flagged some how, and are more likely to TD or get delayed,
3/22/2013 12:30:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
First offense is a misdomeanor. Subsequent offenses are felonies.

21a-279(C) is a disqualifier for possessing pistols/revolvers and for obtaining a Connecticut Pistol Permit or Eligibility Certificate.


Right now, it is not a dis-qualifier for purchasing or possessing a rifle or shotgun. It is imperative that you pay close attention to pending legislation, because there are several bills that would impact your ability to purchase or possess long guns if passed and signed into law.

The other issue that you need to be mindful of is that there is a federal prohibition for persons who are unlawful users of, or are addicted to, substances. If you are still, or recently were using drugs- then you would be a federally prohibited possessor, even if you hadn't been charged or convicted in a while. Additionally, NICS uses a lookback and includes recent drug possession convictions among the criteria for issuing denials on user/addict premise, even if the offense itself isn't otherwise disqualifying. Yours should be long enough ago to not need to worry about that...


Ok i understand that i'm unable to apply for my pistol permit and i am also aware that you are prohibited from purchasing or having a firearm if you abuse drugs etc. which i don't so i think that i should be good to go to purchase this lower receiver and have it sent to my FFL that is close to me.

I just don't want to purchase it and then have the NICS deny me and have to deal with sending the receiver back and trying to get back my money.


2002 was 11 years ago. I don't think you'll have a problem unless somebody was confused about whether it was a first or subsequent offense, which they should be able to figure out PDQ.
3/22/2013 12:31:02 PM EDT
[#7]
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Yes, you can buy any long gun legally sold in the state.  You are prohibited from buying or owning a handgun until (or unless) you get a pardon, or if your misdemeanor conviction was before 1994 when they passed the state 'handgun bill' you may be able to work something out with the state so you could get your permit.

When you go to the lgs to buy your long gun and do your background check, you will be required to wait 2 weeks before taking the gun into your possession. Usually you won't get the OK on your background check until you go back 2 weeks later after filling the application out, but as long as you know you're legal your fine.  The liberals(state police) who run the checks may try to play games with you though and intentionally deny you implying to you that you're not eligible. They do this with a lot of people who are actually eligible, by testing their knowledge of the gun laws. If that happens and you are denied the gun store will give you a number to call and if you call it they will have to reverse the denial they allegedly gave you by accident.

Currently you are allowed to purchase 3 guns at once. 3 long guns in your case.


Thanks for the information!!! I'm going to try and go ahead and go through with the sale because i'm pretty sure i'm still legally allowed to purchase and own a long gun or shotgun in Connecticut. I hope the CSP don't try and pull the denial which i'm going to have to try and appeal. I am also going to do the Pardons and Expungement Process in CT in another 2 years to try and have my criminal record erased and my rights to have a pistol permit restored.

I'm a law-abiding citizen and was mixed up with the wrong crowd for a little while. So hopefully that goes well for me in the years to come.

Thanks again to JAD and you for the information guys!!!

Cal




If you get denied, its only because the CT state police doing the checks are playing games with you. But you are legal and would just have to call the number the gun store will provide you, its not really an appeal process or anything, just a phone call to correct them and show that you aren't stupid.  A friend of mine had to do it once and I also heard from other people in the gun store that had to do it.  Again though, that's if you are denied, but you shouldn't be.

Also, there is a pending proposal in state congress that would bar anyone with your conviction from owning any firearm, even a long gun, in the state.  The law, if it were to be voted upon and passed, is supposed to be applied prospectively. meaning that if it were to be passed it would only affect people with convictions that occured after the date the law was passed. Pay attention though like the other poster said, there are some gun grabbers in congress and the governor hoping to pass retroactive laws and do confiscation.
3/22/2013 12:38:40 PM EDT
[#8]
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First offense is a misdomeanor. Subsequent offenses are felonies.

21a-279(C) is a disqualifier for possessing pistols/revolvers and for obtaining a Connecticut Pistol Permit or Eligibility Certificate.


Right now, it is not a dis-qualifier for purchasing or possessing a rifle or shotgun. It is imperative that you pay close attention to pending legislation, because there are several bills that would impact your ability to purchase or possess long guns if passed and signed into law.

The other issue that you need to be mindful of is that there is a federal prohibition for persons who are unlawful users of, or are addicted to, substances. If you are still, or recently were using drugs- then you would be a federally prohibited possessor, even if you hadn't been charged or convicted in a while. Additionally, NICS uses a lookback and includes recent drug possession convictions among the criteria for issuing denials on user/addict premise, even if the offense itself isn't otherwise disqualifying. Yours should be long enough ago to not need to worry about that...


Ok i understand that i'm unable to apply for my pistol permit and i am also aware that you are prohibited from purchasing or having a firearm if you abuse drugs etc. which i don't so i think that i should be good to go to purchase this lower receiver and have it sent to my FFL that is close to me.

I just don't want to purchase it and then have the NICS deny me and have to deal with sending the receiver back and trying to get back my money.


2002 was 11 years ago. I don't think you'll have a problem unless somebody was confused about whether it was a first or subsequent offense, which they should be able to figure out PDQ.


...while 2012 was last year...

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3/22/2013 12:41:24 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
First offense is a misdomeanor. Subsequent offenses are felonies.

21a-279(C) is a disqualifier for possessing pistols/revolvers and for obtaining a Connecticut Pistol Permit or Eligibility Certificate.


Right now, it is not a dis-qualifier for purchasing or possessing a rifle or shotgun. It is imperative that you pay close attention to pending legislation, because there are several bills that would impact your ability to purchase or possess long guns if passed and signed into law.

The other issue that you need to be mindful of is that there is a federal prohibition for persons who are unlawful users of, or are addicted to, substances. If you are still, or recently were using drugs- then you would be a federally prohibited possessor, even if you hadn't been charged or convicted in a while. Additionally, NICS uses a lookback and includes recent drug possession convictions among the criteria for issuing denials on user/addict premise, even if the offense itself isn't otherwise disqualifying. Yours should be long enough ago to not need to worry about that...


Ok i understand that i'm unable to apply for my pistol permit and i am also aware that you are prohibited from purchasing or having a firearm if you abuse drugs etc. which i don't so i think that i should be good to go to purchase this lower receiver and have it sent to my FFL that is close to me.

I just don't want to purchase it and then have the NICS deny me and have to deal with sending the receiver back and trying to get back my money.


Complete lower or stripped?

If it's stripped it will transfer as "other" not long gun and you probably will be prohibited

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3/22/2013 12:41:41 PM EDT
[#10]
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Yes, you can buy any long gun legally sold in the state.  You are prohibited from buying or owning a handgun until (or unless) you get a pardon, or if your misdemeanor conviction was before 1994 when they passed the state 'handgun bill' you may be able to work something out with the state so you could get your permit.

When you go to the lgs to buy your long gun and do your background check, you will be required to wait 2 weeks before taking the gun into your possession. Usually you won't get the OK on your background check until you go back 2 weeks later after filling the application out, but as long as you know you're legal your fine. [violet]The liberals(state police) who run the checks may try to play games with you though and intentionally deny you implying to you that you're not eligible. They do this with a lot of people who are actually eligible, by testing their knowledge of the gun laws.[/violet] If that happens and you are denied the gun store will give you a number to call and if you call it they will have to reverse the denial they allegedly gave you by accident.

Currently you are allowed to purchase 3 guns at once. 3 long guns in your case.


The statutory prohibition is irrespective of the date of conviction. T\he prohibiting condition is the conviction, not the date of the conviction. Furthermore, even if an individual were unlawfully granted a permit, despite a prohibiting criminal history, they would still be in violation of state law by possessing the pistol.

There is sometimes confusion about a buyer's status because of the way things are reported. Those are things that can be rectified.
My understanding is that a reference number is used to initiate the wait and an authorization is obtained at the time of pick-up. That system keeps dealers honest. Some people will tell you that the 14 days gives the state an opportunity to check into a persons history- that's a false belief. The state can instantly generate approvals on persons with permits... the 2 weeks is a coolling off period.  

There is no law (or to my knowledge administrative agency regulation) that limits the number of firearms that a person may acquire at any given time here in Connecticut. My belief, based on things that I've seen, is that transactions for frequent buyrs get flagged some how, and are more likely to TD or get delayed,


In the case of the handgun bill when it was passed in 1994, it was made retroactive meaning that everyone who had those misdemeanors on their record had their permits revoked even if the convictions were from 20 years prior. The DPS, however, was giving many people their permits after the law was passed if their conviction was before the date the law was passed. They may not be able to do it anymore though without the board getting involved.

Yeah the 2 weeks is a cooling off period, but you won't get the result or OK on your background check until the end of those 2 weeks. (unless you check yes on any of the questions on the application you'll be denied because you'd be ineligible immediately)

On the purchase limit, every time I've gone to buy guns they always tell everyone that you can have up to 3 numbers(3 guns) from the state per background check. If you want more you would have to fill out the application again or come back at a later date. This was not at just one gun store.
3/22/2013 12:44:32 PM EDT
[#11]
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First offense is a misdomeanor. Subsequent offenses are felonies.

21a-279(C) is a disqualifier for possessing pistols/revolvers and for obtaining a Connecticut Pistol Permit or Eligibility Certificate.


Right now, it is not a dis-qualifier for purchasing or possessing a rifle or shotgun. It is imperative that you pay close attention to pending legislation, because there are several bills that would impact your ability to purchase or possess long guns if passed and signed into law.

The other issue that you need to be mindful of is that there is a federal prohibition for persons who are unlawful users of, or are addicted to, substances. If you are still, or recently were using drugs- then you would be a federally prohibited possessor, even if you hadn't been charged or convicted in a while. Additionally, NICS uses a lookback and includes recent drug possession convictions among the criteria for issuing denials on user/addict premise, even if the offense itself isn't otherwise disqualifying. Yours should be long enough ago to not need to worry about that...


Ok i understand that i'm unable to apply for my pistol permit and i am also aware that you are prohibited from purchasing or having a firearm if you abuse drugs etc. which i don't so i think that i should be good to go to purchase this lower receiver and have it sent to my FFL that is close to me.

I just don't want to purchase it and then have the NICS deny me and have to deal with sending the receiver back and trying to get back my money.


2002 was 11 years ago. I don't think you'll have a problem unless somebody was confused about whether it was a first or subsequent offense, which they should be able to figure out PDQ.


...while 2012 was last year...

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thank you for correcting me.
3/22/2013 12:47:03 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
First offense is a misdomeanor. Subsequent offenses are felonies.

21a-279(C) is a disqualifier for possessing pistols/revolvers and for obtaining a Connecticut Pistol Permit or Eligibility Certificate.


Right now, it is not a dis-qualifier for purchasing or possessing a rifle or shotgun. It is imperative that you pay close attention to pending legislation, because there are several bills that would impact your ability to purchase or possess long guns if passed and signed into law.

The other issue that you need to be mindful of is that there is a federal prohibition for persons who are unlawful users of, or are addicted to, substances. If you are still, or recently were using drugs- then you would be a federally prohibited possessor, even if you hadn't been charged or convicted in a while. Additionally, NICS uses a lookback and includes recent drug possession convictions among the criteria for issuing denials on user/addict premise, even if the offense itself isn't otherwise disqualifying. Yours should be long enough ago to not need to worry about that...


Ok i understand that i'm unable to apply for my pistol permit and i am also aware that you are prohibited from purchasing or having a firearm if you abuse drugs etc. which i don't so i think that i should be good to go to purchase this lower receiver and have it sent to my FFL that is close to me.

I just don't want to purchase it and then have the NICS deny me and have to deal with sending the receiver back and trying to get back my money.


Complete lower or stripped?

If it's stripped it will transfer as "other" not long gun and you probably will be prohibited

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Irrelevant. In Connecticut, there are specific transfer procedure and prohibitors for pistols and revolvers and specific procedures for firearms other than pistols and revolvers. There are also generic firearm prohibitors. A receiver, complete or not, would not pose a problem.
3/22/2013 12:49:22 PM EDT
[#13]
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Yes, you can buy any long gun legally sold in the state.  You are prohibited from buying or owning a handgun until (or unless) you get a pardon, or if your misdemeanor conviction was before 1994 when they passed the state 'handgun bill' you may be able to work something out with the state so you could get your permit.

When you go to the lgs to buy your long gun and do your background check, you will be required to wait 2 weeks before taking the gun into your possession. Usually you won't get the OK on your background check until you go back 2 weeks later after filling the application out, but as long as you know you're legal your fine. [violet]The liberals(state police) who run the checks may try to play games with you though and intentionally deny you implying to you that you're not eligible. They do this with a lot of people who are actually eligible, by testing their knowledge of the gun laws.[/violet] If that happens and you are denied the gun store will give you a number to call and if you call it they will have to reverse the denial they allegedly gave you by accident.

Currently you are allowed to purchase 3 guns at once. 3 long guns in your case.


The statutory prohibition is irrespective of the date of conviction. T\he prohibiting condition is the conviction, not the date of the conviction. Furthermore, even if an individual were unlawfully granted a permit, despite a prohibiting criminal history, they would still be in violation of state law by possessing the pistol.

There is sometimes confusion about a buyer's status because of the way things are reported. Those are things that can be rectified.
My understanding is that a reference number is used to initiate the wait and an authorization is obtained at the time of pick-up. That system keeps dealers honest. Some people will tell you that the 14 days gives the state an opportunity to check into a persons history- that's a false belief. The state can instantly generate approvals on persons with permits... the 2 weeks is a coolling off period.  

There is no law (or to my knowledge administrative agency regulation) that limits the number of firearms that a person may acquire at any given time here in Connecticut. My belief, based on things that I've seen, is that transactions for frequent buyrs get flagged some how, and are more likely to TD or get delayed,


In the case of the handgun bill when it was passed in 1994, it was made retroactive meaning that everyone who had those misdemeanors on their record had their permits revoked even if the convictions were from 20 years prior. The DPS, however, was giving many people their permits after the law was passed if their conviction was before the date the law was passed. They may not be able to do it anymore though without the board getting involved.

Yeah the 2 weeks is a cooling off period, but you won't get the result or OK on your background check until the end of those 2 weeks. (unless you check yes on any of the questions on the application you'll be denied because you'd be ineligible immediately)

On the purchase limit, every time I've gone to buy guns they always tell everyone that you can have up to 3 numbers(3 guns) from the state per background check. If you want more you would have to fill out the application again or come back at a later date. This was not at just one gun store.


That's probably a procedural policy that authorizations ha, though like a number of things they do, it is not substantiated by law. (Of course, the easy thing to do is simply to fill out another DPS67 and not try to fight them).
3/22/2013 12:55:57 PM EDT
[#14]
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Yes, you can buy any long gun legally sold in the state.  You are prohibited from buying or owning a handgun until (or unless) you get a pardon, or if your misdemeanor conviction was before 1994 when they passed the state 'handgun bill' you may be able to work something out with the state so you could get your permit.

When you go to the lgs to buy your long gun and do your background check, you will be required to wait 2 weeks before taking the gun into your possession. Usually you won't get the OK on your background check until you go back 2 weeks later after filling the application out, but as long as you know you're legal your fine. [violet]The liberals(state police) who run the checks may try to play games with you though and intentionally deny you implying to you that you're not eligible. They do this with a lot of people who are actually eligible, by testing their knowledge of the gun laws.[/violet] If that happens and you are denied the gun store will give you a number to call and if you call it they will have to reverse the denial they allegedly gave you by accident.

Currently you are allowed to purchase 3 guns at once. 3 long guns in your case.


The statutory prohibition is irrespective of the date of conviction. T\he prohibiting condition is the conviction, not the date of the conviction. Furthermore, even if an individual were unlawfully granted a permit, despite a prohibiting criminal history, they would still be in violation of state law by possessing the pistol.

There is sometimes confusion about a buyer's status because of the way things are reported. Those are things that can be rectified.
My understanding is that a reference number is used to initiate the wait and an authorization is obtained at the time of pick-up. That system keeps dealers honest. Some people will tell you that the 14 days gives the state an opportunity to check into a persons history- that's a false belief. The state can instantly generate approvals on persons with permits... the 2 weeks is a coolling off period.  

There is no law (or to my knowledge administrative agency regulation) that limits the number of firearms that a person may acquire at any given time here in Connecticut. My belief, based on things that I've seen, is that transactions for frequent buyrs get flagged some how, and are more likely to TD or get delayed,


In the case of the handgun bill when it was passed in 1994, it was made retroactive meaning that everyone who had those misdemeanors on their record had their permits revoked even if the convictions were from 20 years prior. The DPS, however, was giving many people their permits after the law was passed if their conviction was before the date the law was passed. They may not be able to do it anymore though without the board getting involved.

Yeah the 2 weeks is a cooling off period, but you won't get the result or OK on your background check until the end of those 2 weeks. (unless you check yes on any of the questions on the application you'll be denied because you'd be ineligible immediately)

On the purchase limit, every time I've gone to buy guns they always tell everyone that you can have up to 3 numbers(3 guns) from the state per background check. If you want more you would have to fill out the application again or come back at a later date. This was not at just one gun store.


That may be what they are doing, but it is patently unlawful and those permits should be revoked since they were (at best) erroneously issued. The BFPE has no authority to issue a prohibited person a permit and hopefully would uphold any denial or revocation against a person with a disqualifying conviction.

If an individual undergoing a wait meets one of the bypass criteria (at any point during the wait) the wait can be ended and an authorization obtained immediately. [not what we were talking, just throwing knowledge out there] If the law did not require a wait, DPS could provide the number immediately. I have obtained immediate authorizations on non-permit holders, for example, during private sales.
3/22/2013 1:08:39 PM EDT
[#15]
yeah in the case of the OP here. I wonder about what you said about the federal drug law applying considering his conviction was less than 1 year ago.

Should still be able to get it though, I know a couple people with misdemeanor pot convictions that own long guns however they did purchase them over 5 years ago, not sure what the details on the federal drug addiction law was then..

Oh and I gotta disagree that new permit laws should be allowed to be made retroactive. Society and what was considered ok or not a big deal was a lot different in past times. That 1994 handgun bill was BS, it was pushed not because anyone with a misdemeanor on their record did anything wrong, but because the previous year in 1993 a felonous drug dealer shot into a house and a stray bullet hit a young baby. That was the liberal governor's excuse for passing it, even though the felon who the bill was based off of was already not allowed to own guns because he was a felon.
3/22/2013 1:23:27 PM EDT
[#16]
Never had a felony conviction and from the way i'm reading the law my CGS 21a-279(c) conviction, had it been an (a) or (b), it would have disqualified me from legally purchasing a long gun or shotgun.

Since those two charges both carry penalties of over 2 years and larger fines than the (c) conviction.
3/22/2013 1:37:06 PM EDT
[#17]
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yeah in the case of the OP here. I wonder about what you said about the federal drug law applying considering his conviction was less than 1 year ago.

Should still be able to get it though, I know a couple people with misdemeanor pot convictions that own long guns however they did purchase them over 5 years ago, not sure what the details on the federal drug addiction law was then..

Oh and I gotta disagree that new permit laws should be allowed to be made retroactive. Society and what was considered ok or not a big deal was a lot different in past times. That 1994 handgun bill was BS, it was pushed not because anyone with a misdemeanor on their record did anything wrong, but because the previous year in 1993 a felonous drug dealer shot into a house and a stray bullet hit a young baby. That was the liberal governor's excuse for passing it, even though the felon who the bill was based off of was already not allowed to own guns because he was a felon.


I'm not saying that I support the Act Concerning Handgun Safety. I don't. What I also dislike, however, is the idea of an executive branch agency fragrantly acting in a manner other than that specified by law. When they choose to do that, they betray the public trust. Just as individuals need to obey the law, even laws they don't like, so do governmental entities.
3/22/2013 1:38:11 PM EDT
[#18]
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Never had a felony conviction and from the way i'm reading the law my CGS 21a-279(c) conviction, had it been an (a) or (b), it would have disqualified me from legally purchasing a long gun or shotgun.

Since those two charges both carry penalties of over 2 years and larger fines than the (c) conviction.


yep, you're still 100% legal in CT, I don't know if they'll try to deny you on the federal level with their addiction law though.  I doubt they'll deny you either, but if they do you should be able to correct it assuming you're not addicting to any drug or don't say you are.
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yeah in the case of the OP here. I wonder about what you said about the federal drug law applying considering his conviction was less than 1 year ago.

Should still be able to get it though, I know a couple people with misdemeanor pot convictions that own long guns however they did purchase them over 5 years ago, not sure what the details on the federal drug addiction law was then..

Oh and I gotta disagree that new permit laws should be allowed to be made retroactive. Society and what was considered ok or not a big deal was a lot different in past times. That 1994 handgun bill was BS, it was pushed not because anyone with a misdemeanor on their record did anything wrong, but because the previous year in 1993 a felonous drug dealer shot into a house and a stray bullet hit a young baby. That was the liberal governor's excuse for passing it, even though the felon who the bill was based off of was already not allowed to own guns because he was a felon.


I'm not saying that I support the Act Concerning Handgun Safety. I don't. What I also dislike, however, is the idea of an executive branch agency fragrantly acting in a manner other than that specified by law. When they choose to do that, they betray the public trust. Just as individuals need to obey the law, even laws they don't like, so do governmental entities.


yeah I get what you're saying but I'm totally against ex post facto rules being applied especially if the rules don't make sense to begin with.