[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Name wrong on speeding ticket (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/6/2013 8:00:56 PM EDT
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Call me crazy, but I can't plea on someone else's behalf, and my name isn't on that ticket. Am I off base with this? Ticket says Lidar was used at 1547 feet (which sounds pretty fucking far for an accurate reading to me). |
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Is it a computer generated ticket? Does it have your TX DL number on it? Is it just your first name or last name that is wrong? How "wrong" are we talking here? And who issued it?
And a laser it does not matter. As long as you can see the vehicle and can pick up a reflection on the car, you can get an accurate speed. We are talking about a laser beam here... not a bullet. |
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This happened to my aunt from a normal traffic stop. Her name was just spelled wrong or it had the wrong birthdate or something like that. She consulted my other aunt (her sister) who is a lawyer and this is what she said:
Take it to court and just repeat "That is not me" pointing to the ticket. That's all you have to say. She did this and got off scott free. The cop that wrote it was there and just smirked and shook his head because he knew he made a mistake and she was right; that is not her. |
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This happened to my aunt from a normal traffic stop. Her name was just spelled wrong or it had the wrong birthdate or something like that. She consulted my other aunt (her sister) who is a lawyer and this is what she said: Take it to court and just repeat "That is not me" pointing to the ticket. That's all you have to say. She did this and got off scott free. The cop that wrote it was there and just smirked and shook his head because he knew he made a mistake and she was right; that is not her. 
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Call me crazy, but I can't plea on someone else's behalf, and my name isn't on that ticket. Am I off base with this? Ticket says Lidar was used at 1547 feet (which sounds pretty fucking far for an accurate reading to me). Lidar is 36" wide at 1000ft. If he aims at your car that far away it could pick up the vehicle in the next lane. you need he to say he aimed at your headlight and then you got him. It can also pick up a vehicle behind you. In certain states they won't allow tickets after 1000ft because of that. Edit to add this Link |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Was it you, Sir?" Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir? "Officer, did you issue this ticket to this person on __/__/__?" "Sir, did this officer give you this ticket on __/__/__?" YMMV. The answer to that question would possibly incriminate me, so again, "Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir?" |
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I'd say, if the cop can spell a name correctly off of a drivers license, how can you trust that he put down the correct speed on the ticket...or even used the Lidar correctly in the first place?
I think the cop ought to go in for some more training, just to make sure they didn't hire the wrong kind of person in the first place. 
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About 20 years ago, I was giving a ticket to sign and after I got home and looked at it, it was someones elses ticket! Wrong everything. The cop got my ticket and someone else's mixed up and had us both sign each others ticket. I tried to argue this with the judge and he just threatened to throw me in jail. He asked the name on my ticket and then asked that person to stand up. Some dude on the other side of the court got up and the judge told him to exchange tickets with me. Total bullshit. So I plead guilty to a ticket that someone else signed. I pumped my fist when I heard a few years later the same judge fell over dead in court. |
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I tried fighting a parking ticket because the cop put the wrong state on the ticket. DMV said he got the car make and model correct so it was my car. I asked why I'm supposed to trust him knowing the difference between a Ford and a Chevy if he can't even tell the difference between CT and RI license plates.
They didn't care. |
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"Was it you, Sir?" Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir? "Officer, did you issue this ticket to this person on __/__/__?" "Sir, did this officer give you this ticket on __/__/__?" YMMV. The answer to that question would possibly incriminate me, so again, "Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir?" In va they avoid that difficulty by pretending tickets are not criminal, therefore none of your rights exist It's pretty brilliant from their point of view. |
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About 20 years ago, I was giving a ticket to sign and after I got home and looked at it, it was someones else ticket! Wrong everything. The cop got my ticket and someone elves mixed up and had us both sign each others ticket. I tried to argue this with the judge and he just threatened to throw me in jail. He asked the name on my ticket and then asked that person to stand up. Some dude on the other side of the court got up and the judge told him to exchange tickets with me. Total bullshit. So I plead guilty to a ticket that someone else signed. I pumped my fist when I heard a few years later the same judge fell over dead in court. Wait, how did one person who got a ticket before the other person get the later person's ticket to sign before it was written? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Was it you, Sir?" Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir? "Officer, did you issue this ticket to this person on __/__/__?" "Sir, did this officer give you this ticket on __/__/__?" YMMV. The answer to that question would possibly incriminate me, so again, "Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir?" In va they avoid that difficulty by pretending tickets are not criminal, therefore none of your rights exist It's pretty brilliant from their point of view. My ticket alleges i was traveling 20 mph over the speed limit. In Texas, you can be arrested for that. If I can be arrested for it, then there is no way in fuck they're going to tell me it isn't criminal. |
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I fought a ticket once where the gentlemanly officer, in his angry haste, wrote as the location of the offense the wrong road number.
With him on the stand and the ticket in hand, I asked him where it happened. He answered correctly. I asked him to read the address on the ticket. He just stared at it and didn't move. He didn't look up. I asked again. He didn't move a muscle. The judge looked at his copy of the ticket, looked at me, and asked, "So, are you going to move for a dismissal? Granted" 
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Wait, how did one person who got a ticket before the other person get the later person's ticket to sign before it was written? Dont know about where you live, but here in Vegas the cops sometimes pull multiple cars over at the same time. Me and another dude both ran a yellowish red light. She (cop) threw her lights and I pulled over. She went past me and pulled the other dude over. When I started to leave, she stepped out on me and told me to pull in front of the other guys truck. She gave him a ticket and he left, she then came to my truck and give me a ticket to sign and then I left. I cant believe you needed me to explain that to you ... Forest. |
I got out of one years ago because the court date was 31 April. I called the clerk's office, and they just laughed... apparently officer Einstein had written all of his citations that day with the same date, I was the ninth person that they'd talked to with the same problem. They had to dismiss every one of them. You know that cop got his ass reamed. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Wait, how did one person who got a ticket before the other person get the later person's ticket to sign before it was written? Dont know about where you live, but here in Vegas the cops sometimes pull multiple cars over at the same time. Me and another dude both ran a yellowish red light. She (cop) threw her lights and I pulled over. She went past me and pulled the other dude over. When I started to leave, she stepped out on me and told me to pull in front of the other guys truck. She gave him a ticket and he left, she then came to my truck and give me a ticket to sign and then I left. I cant believe you needed me to explain that to you ... Forest. I was confused as hell as to how it would happen also. I figured the cop had accidentally had you sign and then given you someone else's carbon |
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This happened to my aunt from a normal traffic stop. Her name was just spelled wrong or it had the wrong birthdate or something like that. She consulted my other aunt (her sister) who is a lawyer and this is what she said: Take it to court and just repeat "That is not me" pointing to the ticket. That's all you have to say. She did this and got off scott free. The cop that wrote it was there and just smirked and shook his head because he knew he made a mistake and she was right; that is not her. Actually that's called perjury. |
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Wait, how did one person who got a ticket before the other person get the later person's ticket to sign before it was written? Dont know about where you live, but here in Vegas the cops sometimes pull multiple cars over at the same time. Me and another dude both ran a yellowish red light. She (cop) threw her lights and I pulled over. She went past me and pulled the other dude over. When I started to leave, she stepped out on me and told me to pull in front of the other guys truck. She gave him a ticket and he left, she then came to my truck and give me a ticket to sign and then I left. I cant believe you needed me to explain that to you ... Forest. Ah, makes sense. I thought you meant it was some random other person, that detail in the first one would have cleared it up. I can't believe you forgot it. 
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This happened to my aunt from a normal traffic stop. Her name was just spelled wrong or it had the wrong birthdate or something like that. She consulted my other aunt (her sister) who is a lawyer and this is what she said: Take it to court and just repeat "That is not me" pointing to the ticket. That's all you have to say. She did this and got off scott free. The cop that wrote it was there and just smirked and shook his head because he knew he made a mistake and she was right; that is not her. Actually that's called perjury. Highly subjective, Technically the person they are pointing to isn't them. If they said the ticket wasn't given to them then that's different. |
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This happened to my aunt from a normal traffic stop. Her name was just spelled wrong or it had the wrong birthdate or something like that. She consulted my other aunt (her sister) who is a lawyer and this is what she said: Take it to court and just repeat "That is not me" pointing to the ticket. That's all you have to say. She did this and got off scott free. The cop that wrote it was there and just smirked and shook his head because he knew he made a mistake and she was right; that is not her. Actually that's called perjury. Highly subjective, Technically the person they are pointing to isn't them. If they said the ticket wasn't given to them then that's different. Exactly, she didn't deny receiving the ticket or speeding, she just said that the person on the ticket was not her, which is entirely true. |
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This happened to my aunt from a normal traffic stop. Her name was just spelled wrong or it had the wrong birthdate or something like that. She consulted my other aunt (her sister) who is a lawyer and this is what she said: Take it to court and just repeat "That is not me" pointing to the ticket. That's all you have to say. She did this and got off scott free. The cop that wrote it was there and just smirked and shook his head because he knew he made a mistake and she was right; that is not her. Actually that's called perjury. Not at all..........Thats probably the way I would go in this situation. The name they are pointing at on the ticket is not their name, so how is that lying? ETA too slow. Just keep repeating this and plead the 5th to everything else. |
Take it to court. I disputed a speeding ticket (because I wasn't) And during the court proceedings both officers testified that I was driving a red van....... After cross examining the officers I stated for the record that I drove a white van. The Judge looked at the officers..... the prosecuting attny...... and said "case dismissed". 
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Quoted: Quoted: "Was it you, Sir?" Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir? "Sir - I am asking you if you were the person stopped for exceeding the speed limit, on that same date, at that time indicated, in that same place, driving THAT car, with that same plate, with that same driver's license? I did not ask you if you broke the law. Its a simple question. Yes or no." |
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Just to throw a completely different methodology out there: You could always accept responsibility for your actions, and pay the ticket.
I'm not making judgement calls--maybe it wasn't you, after all. Only you know. I just get tired of people making excuses for the way they drive. If it wasn't a legit emergency, accept the rebuke for what it is: A little reminder that you need to pay a bit more attention to what you're doing behind the wheel. Not intended as a slam, brother--just a thought provoker. |
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A mile is 5280 feet. Lidar = Laser = very small cone = He got ya. Name wrong on speeding ticket = Drivers license number correct? = SOL ^ dis Depends on the state. NC is 1000ft max for enforcement. IIRC the cone @ 1000 is approx. 3ft. Well, yes, the enforcement part is right. I was merely pointing out that with lidar its easy to get an accurate reading at that distance. |
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Just to throw a completely different methodology out there: You could always accept responsibility for your actions, and pay the ticket. I'm not making judgement calls--maybe it wasn't you, after all. Only you know. I just get tired of people making excuses for the way they drive. If it wasn't a legit emergency, accept the rebuke for what it is: A little reminder that you need to pay a bit more attention to what you're doing behind the wheel. Not intended as a slam, brother--just a thought provoker. So, driving above the speed limit means a driver is not paying (enough) attention? That's a pretty arbitrary conclusion. |
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"Was it you, Sir?" Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir? "Officer, did you issue this ticket to this person on __/__/__?" "Sir, did this officer give you this ticket on __/__/__?" YMMV. The answer to that question would possibly incriminate me, so again, "Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir?" Except the judge is asking you to dispute the officers direct testimony. You don't have to, but the testimony will remain undisputed as they find you guilty. (Not to mention the fact that acknowledging receipt of the ticket is not self-incrimination.) |
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"Was it you, Sir?" Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir? "Officer, did you issue this ticket to this person on __/__/__?" "Sir, did this officer give you this ticket on __/__/__?" YMMV. The answer to that question would possibly incriminate me, so again, "Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir?" In va they avoid that difficulty by pretending tickets are not criminal, therefore none of your rights exist It's pretty brilliant from their point of view. They do that everywhere - that's how they avoid the "speedy trial" & "jury of your peers" - otherwise the system would be clogged up & it wouldn't be profitable. |
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Are you sure about 20 over? My daughter got one , 21 over, 61 in a 40, She got a butt chewin by me when I found out but she was in no danger of going to jail. Maybe 30 over? I could see, maybe.
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"Was it you, Sir?" Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir? "Officer, did you issue this ticket to this person on __/__/__?" "Sir, did this officer give you this ticket on __/__/__?" YMMV. The answer to that question would possibly incriminate me, so again, "Are you asking me to give possibly incriminating evidence against myself, Sir?" In va they avoid that difficulty by pretending tickets are not criminal, therefore none of your rights exist It's pretty brilliant from their point of view. My ticket alleges i was traveling 20 mph over the speed limit. In Texas, you can be arrested for that. If I can be arrested for it, then there is no way in fuck they're going to tell me it isn't criminal. |
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Take it to court!
I had local P.D. traffic officer cite me for speeding, when it went to trial the officer said he pulled me over in an entirely different area than he actually pulled me over in. The farging prosecutor asked for a 1 hour continuance so the officer could get the tape, I asked the judge if the same opportunity would be given to me had I come unprepared, judge said "case dismissed". I still have the dismissal paper hanging on my fridge, I was and still am proud of myself.
ETA: If you fight and lose, you will have a Class C misdemeanor conviction on your record. |