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2/14/2013 2:37:11 PM EDT
Just got back from burying my grandfather. He lived an amazing 87 years, hope I live close to that long.

I noticed though on the way to the graveyard from the church, only a few people actually pulled to the side and waited for our procession to pass. I thought it was customary to stop as it passes to pay your respects to the deceased? Is this a misunderstanding on my part, or are people just completely fucking inconsiderate and don't give a damn about anything or anyone?

Wasn't just kids fresh to driving, there were people who are old enough to know damn well better.
2/14/2013 2:38:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Sorry for the loss.  I also experienced this blatant lack of respect recently.
2/14/2013 2:40:14 PM EDT
[#2]
People no longer respect themselves: why would they respect the dead?

In my part of the South, the police still block traffic and lead the procession with lights on. But I'm sure that will be gone one day too.

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2/14/2013 2:41:41 PM EDT
[#3]
They won't move for ambulances or fire equipment either, it's like they enjoy air horns and having some warped power in their otherwise powerless miserable lives.



Sorry for your loss.


2/14/2013 2:42:04 PM EDT
[#4]
My husband's father's funeral was yesterday and we noticed the same thing.  However, I happened to look out the window just as one gentleman standing in his yard caught sight of the hearse and, quick as lightning, took off his hat and held it over it heart as we passed.  

I'm sorry for your loss.
2/14/2013 2:45:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Sorry for your loss.



I tend to think that by and large, it's not common knowledge for everyone like it used to be. But I suspect that many of those that know it's customary just don't care. Sad to say, but we are living in the age of "me first".
2/14/2013 2:46:27 PM EDT
[#6]
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Sorry for the loss.  I also experienced this blatant lack of respect recently.


Thanks bud. He was an amazing man who worked his ass off to provide for his family. Commercial fisherman/tug captain and hunted and fished not just because it was the fun thing to do.

The police still provide escorts up till the burial site, but the lack of respect is still giving me heartburn.
2/14/2013 2:47:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Just got back from burying my grandfather. He lived an amazing 87 years, hope I live close to that long.

I noticed though on the way to the graveyard from the church, only a few people actually pulled to the side and waited for our procession to pass. I thought it was customary to stop as it passes to pay your respects to the deceased? Is this a misunderstanding on my part, or are people just completely fucking inconsiderate and don't give a damn about anything or anyone?

Wasn't just kids fresh to driving, there were people who are old enough to know damn well better.


2/14/2013 2:54:13 PM EDT
[#8]
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They won't move for ambulances or fire equipment either, it's like they enjoy air horns and having some warped power in their otherwise powerless miserable lives.

I've noticed this also and figured the same thing. I find it hilarious when some of em get confused, like at an intersection. "Do I go even though the light is red?!" and the ambulance is blaring the horn in their back seat. Haha! Stupid fuckers

Simple shit like this ought to be taught in drivers ed.

2/14/2013 2:55:58 PM EDT
[#9]
I always pull over and wait for them to go by.  Most people are just too fucking inconsiderate to care.
2/14/2013 3:06:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Prayers to you sir.  Your grandfather is of the last of the generation that
made this country a great land.  I teach Sunday School to our senior men.
Mr. Barron is a 89 year old great grandfather that survived Omaha Beach.

Others have stories as well.  My dad passed in 02 at 82 years of age.  He
fought in WW11 as well as Korea.  And I do mean fought. The old guard are
not going to be here much longer.  I encourage others to thank these souls every
chance they get.

As to your noting the self centered, me first, moronic, spoiled, and otherwise
worthless POS I deal with as a long time traffic guy - YES, they are a rotton
crew.  

We do our best to keep the roadway respectful during funeral
details.  Rural GA is still clinging to a few of things that tip society toward
respect and honor.

Again, prayers to you and yours.
2/14/2013 3:12:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Sorry for your loss. I thought it was common courtesy not to cut into the procession and to let it pass before proceeding at an intersection. A hearse has to obey the rules of the road, it's those that follow that are permitted to proceed through red lights and stop signs. How can a procession expect people to pull to the side if everyone on the road is going the same speed? Am I missing something here?
2/14/2013 3:14:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Are you talking about traffic coming in the opposite direction?
2/14/2013 3:21:36 PM EDT
[#13]
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Sorry for your loss. I thought it was common courtesy not to cut into the procession and to let it pass before proceeding at an intersection. A hearse has to obey the rules of the road, it's those that follow that are permitted to proceed through red lights and stop signs. How can a procession expect people to pull to the side if everyone on the road is going the same speed? Am I missing something here?


Not anymore, unless escorted with intersections blocked. Some states won't even allow that anymore.

Sadly, this is another custom that is falling away, ESPECIALLY in the laarger cities.

I know I will wait, if only as a matter of courtesy.
2/14/2013 3:25:01 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


People no longer respect themselves: why would they respect the dead?



In my part of the South, the police still block traffic and lead the procession with lights on. But I'm sure that will be gone one day too.



Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


They do that here too  for probably 99% of the processions I see.



 
2/14/2013 3:27:26 PM EDT
[#15]
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People no longer respect themselves: why would they respect the dead?

In my part of the South, the police still block traffic and lead the procession with lights on. But I'm sure that will be gone one day too.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


I used to work at a funeral home, once I asked the sheriffs if they would block traffic, for use at some of the busier intersections along the route. They didn't.
2/14/2013 3:28:38 PM EDT
[#16]
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Just got back from burying my grandfather. He lived an amazing 87 years, hope I live close to that long.

I noticed though on the way to the graveyard from the church, only a few people actually pulled to the side and waited for our procession to pass. I thought it was customary to stop as it passes to pay your respects to the deceased? Is this a misunderstanding on my part, or are people just completely fucking inconsiderate and don't give a damn about anything or anyone?

Wasn't just kids fresh to driving, there were people who are old enough to know damn well better.



Should I stop and pull over for someone like Dorner or someone who abused women and children?  I don't know who's in the box.  And stop with the police escort who feel the need to stop traffic at every intersection.  What's the big freakin' hurry... it's not like it's going to matter if the body gets planted in five minutes or 55 minutes.
2/14/2013 3:31:14 PM EDT
[#17]
I pull over, for processions in either direction.
2/14/2013 3:32:39 PM EDT
[#18]
I used to work at a funeral home. Its a rare occurance. I had one soccer mom type pass me on her cell phone one time... I was driving the hearse.... she passed the whole procession. Its a lack of respect. If I see a Funeral Procession coming when im driving I always stop and turn my headlights on. If i have a hat it moves over my heart. I try and block my lane of traffic if the procession is passing me the other direction so that no one has the opportunity to be disrespectful.
2/14/2013 3:34:42 PM EDT
[#19]
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Should I stop and pull over for someone like Dorner or someone who abused women and children?  I don't know who's in the box.  And stop with the police escort who feel the need to stop traffic at every intersection.  What's the big freakin' hurry... it's not like it's going to matter if the body gets planted in five minutes or 55 minutes.


"In the democracy of the dead all men at last are equal. There is neither rank nor station nor prerogative in the republic of the grave."

It's all about respect.
2/14/2013 3:35:26 PM EDT
[#20]
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I pull over, for processions in either direction.


Me too, very common in  my town.  Went to an Aunt's funeral on Long Island, and that was a completley different matter.....
2/14/2013 3:37:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Sorry for your loss.

Thankfully I live in a city that has people that respect and pull over.
2/14/2013 3:38:19 PM EDT
[#22]
Well, I used to think the same thing, until I buried my dad and some stupid cunt was pissed at an intersection and started honking her horn because she thought she had the right-of-way.
2/14/2013 3:40:42 PM EDT
[#23]
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Just got back from burying my grandfather. He lived an amazing 87 years, hope I live close to that long.

I noticed though on the way to the graveyard from the church, only a few people actually pulled to the side and waited for our procession to pass. I thought it was customary to stop as it passes to pay your respects to the deceased? Is this a misunderstanding on my part, or are people just completely fucking inconsiderate and don't give a damn about anything or anyone?

Wasn't just kids fresh to driving, there were people who are old enough to know damn well better.



Should I stop and pull over for someone like Dorner or someone who abused women and children?  I don't know who's in the box.  And stop with the police escort who feel the need to stop traffic at every intersection.  What's the big freakin' hurry... it's not like it's going to matter if the body gets planted in five minutes or 55 minutes.


So much irony in that post.
2/14/2013 3:41:20 PM EDT
[#24]





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Quoted:



They won't move for ambulances or fire equipment either, it's like they
enjoy air horns and having some warped power in their otherwise
powerless miserable lives.





Sorry for your loss.





I've noticed this also and figured the same thing. I find it hilarious when some of em get confused, like at an intersection. "Do I go even though the light is red?!" and the ambulance is blaring the horn in their back seat. Haha! Stupid fuckers





Simple shit like this ought to be taught in drivers ed.








Someone claimed too have been ticketed by a red light camera for moving through a light to allow emergency equipment to get through - has no place really in this discussion except how insane those cameras are.  Our little city ends those cameras this month, I won't miss them.




Common sense can't be taught.  It's a "me" world.
 
2/14/2013 3:42:47 PM EDT
[#25]
I've noticed people will usually pull over if it is a 2 lane road.
  I've noticed a lot of times that people may not pull over, but they will slow down and turn on their lights.
2/14/2013 3:43:47 PM EDT
[#26]
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Just got back from burying my grandfather. He lived an amazing 87 years, hope I live close to that long.

I noticed though on the way to the graveyard from the church, only a few people actually pulled to the side and waited for our procession to pass. I thought it was customary to stop as it passes to pay your respects to the deceased? Is this a misunderstanding on my part, or are people just completely fucking inconsiderate and don't give a damn about anything or anyone?

Wasn't just kids fresh to driving, there were people who are old enough to know damn well better.



Should I stop and pull over for someone like Dorner or someone who abused women and children?  I don't know who's in the box.  And stop with the police escort who feel the need to stop traffic at every intersection.  What's the big freakin' hurry... it's not like it's going to matter if the body gets planted in five minutes or 55 minutes.


Damn dude.  That shit is gonna burn you up inside.
2/14/2013 3:45:06 PM EDT
[#27]
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Just got back from burying my grandfather. He lived an amazing 87 years, hope I live close to that long.

I noticed though on the way to the graveyard from the church, only a few people actually pulled to the side and waited for our procession to pass. I thought it was customary to stop as it passes to pay your respects to the deceased? Is this a misunderstanding on my part, or are people just completely fucking inconsiderate and don't give a damn about anything or anyone?

Wasn't just kids fresh to driving, there were people who are old enough to know damn well better.



Should I stop and pull over for someone like Dorner or someone who abused women and children?  I don't know who's in the box.  And stop with the police escort who feel the need to stop traffic at every intersection.  What's the big freakin' hurry... it's not like it's going to matter if the body gets planted in five minutes or 55 minutes.


Damn dude.  That shit is gonna burn you up inside.


What's so funny is that he's bitching about police being in a hurry to get the procession off the road, yet is in too much of a hurry to stop and give simple respects.
2/14/2013 3:45:20 PM EDT
[#28]
For me I guess it depends where I am at. While I have the utmost respect for the deceased and the family I am not going to be the cause of a wreck on a busy street.
2/14/2013 3:48:01 PM EDT
[#29]
As long as people aren't breaking up the progression than whatever.
2/14/2013 3:49:20 PM EDT
[#30]
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What's so funny is that he's bitching about police being in a hurry to get the procession off the road, yet is in too much of a hurry to stop and give simple respects.


Not really, if they follow traffic rules (traffic lights, stop signs, etc.) they really don't impede traffic.  What I'm bitching about is sitting at an intersection as 400 cars in cross traffic go through red light after red light.  Would it really make a difference if the people in those cars arrived 3 minutes later because they had to stop at a red light?

EDIT: Also has anyone ever arrived at a cemetery for a burial where it didn't take 30 minutes for the burial ceremony to start?  How's that for ironic... people in a hurry to stand around.
2/14/2013 3:49:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Very sorry for your loss.

Years ago the boss told me to take the company truck for a ride since we hadn't used it in a while.

I waited in the driveway as a funeral procession passed by, then turned on my lights and fell in line behind it.

I made it 5 miles without having to stop for a light
2/14/2013 3:54:07 PM EDT
[#32]
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What's so funny is that he's bitching about police being in a hurry to get the procession off the road, yet is in too much of a hurry to stop and give simple respects.


Not really, if they follow traffic rules (traffic lights, stop signs, etc.) they really don't impede traffic.  What I'm bitching about is sitting at an intersection as 400 cars in cross traffic go through red light after red light.  Would it really make a difference if the people in those cars arrived 3 minutes later because they had to stop at a red light?



Can’t stand that either, I live next to a funeral home and took me 15 minutes to cross the street once so I could get to my door.  The rest of the world doesn't stop because someone dies.
2/14/2013 3:54:23 PM EDT
[#33]
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Should I stop and pull over for someone like Dorner or someone who abused women and children?  I don't know who's in the box.  And stop with the police escort who feel the need to stop traffic at every intersection.  What's the big freakin' hurry... it's not like it's going to matter if the body gets planted in five minutes or 55 minutes.


"In the democracy of the dead all men at last are equal. There is neither rank nor station nor prerogative in the republic of the grave."

It's all about respect.



Right on. It's hard in our society not to want to judge someone for their fallacies in their time here. I would agree that I wouldn't want to respect a child molester or a murderer and some other kind of lowlife. But every person has their last respects. For those that believe in Him, He will be the last to judge.
In a procession traveling in the same direction, as soon as I notice I pull over, but this was more directed at opposing traffic.

Blocking traffic isn't meant to get the deceased to their final resting place quickly. I know for my grandfather we took our time, small town, and passed with him one final time through the boat launch. When it's your time, I hope peoe show respect for your time here and the contributions you made to the rest of us.
2/14/2013 3:58:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:

What's so funny is that he's bitching about police being in a hurry to get the procession off the road, yet is in too much of a hurry to stop and give simple respects.


Not really, if they follow traffic rules (traffic lights, stop signs, etc.) they really don't impede traffic.  What I'm bitching about is sitting at an intersection as 400 cars in cross traffic go through red light after red light.  Would it really make a difference if the people in those cars arrived 3 minutes later because they had to stop at a red light?

EDIT: Also has anyone ever arrived at a cemetery for a burial where it didn't take 30 minutes for the burial ceremony to start?  How's that for ironic... people in a hurry to stand around.


What about speed limits? All the funeral processions around here go slow. Like 40mph on highways and 25-30mph everywhere else.
2/14/2013 4:02:49 PM EDT
[#35]
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When it's your time, I hope peoe show respect for your time here and the contributions you made to the rest of us.


Actually I've joked that when it's my time, that I'm not to have police escorts, a long procession, or do anything to inconvenience others... take me to the cemetery at 8:00 p.m. or 3:00 a.m., I'll be in a box/urn... what the hell do I care if I get to the cemetery sooner or later?  Besides, in my opinion, the body is just a vessel and cemeteries are a waste of real estate.

2/14/2013 4:09:02 PM EDT
[#36]
I once had a 77 cadillac hearse. It was fun to do 35mph down the highway. nobody passed me for 25 miles.
2/14/2013 4:22:00 PM EDT
[#37]


Around my area, people still pull over for a procession in either direction.




I have seen one exception, it was on I-20 and I think most everyone was like me and caught off-guard, even the ones on their side of the interstate.









2/14/2013 4:42:26 PM EDT
[#38]
I had a moral crisis one time when I came up on a procession while driving an ambulance with a critical patient in back.  I decided to proceed on and force them to yield to me.  Seemed to make sense since I had a live one.  

I always yield to them when I'm in my POV.  I'm rarely in such a rush that I can't show some common decency.
2/14/2013 4:50:30 PM EDT
[#39]
I've told my wife that I want no procession at all when I'm gone.
2/14/2013 5:02:32 PM EDT
[#40]
never heard about doing it until I saw people bitching on arfcom
not passing it or not turning from a cross street and getting into it even if there was a gap? sure
But stopping, especially when going to the opposite way? never heard of doing that
2/14/2013 5:05:00 PM EDT
[#41]
Sorry for your loss.

My family is from eastern Kentucky....coal country...within 15 minutes of West By God Virginia. Family grew up dirt poor, lived in a coal camp where my Papaw had the privelege of going under ground before sunrise and coming back out after sunset for camp script. Those of you that don't know, camp script is what coal companies paid their employees through much of the 20's, 30's, & 40's. It entitled the employee to redeem the script in the company store. It was never enough to feed the children so they learned to hunt, fish, and garden in order to make ends meet. My Papaw didn't receive "money" that could be spent outside of the company store. I grew up listening to my older relatives tell me how they would have starved to death had it not been for squirrels and fish. I say all of that to say this....

I took my wife to Harold County Kentucky a few years ago for my cousins funeral. The funeral procession went from Harold County into Pike County, a distance of 10 or so miles. EVERY SINGLE PERSON the funeral procession passed stopped what they were doing as the procession went by. People stopped mowing their lawns, cars pulled to the side of the road, a high school football team that was practicing STOPPED in their tracks and showed respect. EVERY SINGLE PERSON. My wife, being from Michigan, was amazed. She couldn't stop talking about it even after we returned home.

Southern people, most of whom have grown up without much, know whats important in life. Most of the best people I have known in life share a southern heritage.
2/14/2013 5:11:29 PM EDT
[#42]
Alot of people only care about themselves unfortunately. We had an " incident" during the procession for my wifes cousin who was electrocuted on a job site this summer. We live in a touristy beach town and he traffic is a nightmare in the summer  A disrespectful female tourist started arguing with the LEO directing traffic about crossing the line to take a left while the traffic was stopped. He was not impressed and it got ugly fast. I have never heard a cop speak to a citizen with such anger and unprofessionalism in his voice. It was epic, and I guarantee you she'll think twice before ever trying to do that again. My wife thanked him twice before we drove off.

Sorry for your loss OP. Sounds like he lived a full life. We should all be so lucky.


2/14/2013 5:15:45 PM EDT
[#43]
I'm sorry for your loss.



Unfortunately - pass threads on this subject seem to show that many Arfcommers have no respect for the dead, the bereaved family or seemingly.... themselves.  They'll declare that they don't DGAS.



I'll apologize for them.  They were brought up wrong.
2/14/2013 5:18:15 PM EDT
[#44]
I honestly didn't know that processions were still done.  Haven't seen one in years.

2/14/2013 5:20:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Sorry to hear about your loss.

You saw a bunch of morons who are the minority in that they do not represent our country or our values.  The rest of us know that spending a minute pulled over to the side of the road is nothing compared to the loss of a dear friend or family member.
2/14/2013 5:32:53 PM EDT
[#46]





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I honestly didn't know that processions were still done.  Haven't seen one in years.








Where I grew up, we saw them all the time, but where we live now hardly ever.  The difference is people here cremate and where I was raised they bury.





The only funeral procession I even remember around here involved an older out of date hearse followed by a number of cars with rims and spinners.
 
2/14/2013 5:40:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
I'm sorry for your loss.

Unfortunately - pass threads on this subject seem to show that many Arfcommers have no respect for the dead, the bereaved family or seemingly.... themselves. They'll declare that they don't DGAS.

I'll apologize for them.  They were brought up wrong.


1. Don't know what that means.
2. As if you know anything about those you don't agree with, I'll leave it at that.
2/14/2013 5:42:03 PM EDT
[#48]
Condolences OP. Just buried my 94 year old grandmother earlier in the month.

Her funeral procession in Indiana actually had a police escort that blocked traffic and intersections. Despite the police presence all the drivers on the road seemed pretty respectful. There was even one instance we had to hop on a county highway where the escorts didn't block the entrance ramp but the first guy trying to get on the highway saw what was going on and had the sensibility to block everyone behind him until our procession had passed.

It's sad that this was probably an exception to the norm. Sometimes it feels like Idiocracy is right around the corner
2/14/2013 5:43:28 PM EDT
[#49]
You think thats bad? Try responding in a Medic or Fire Truck! I wish I had a dashcam to show how little people pay attention
2/14/2013 5:50:14 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm sorry for your loss, and I do have a respect for the dead and their family, but funeral processions are dangerous and unnecessary.

Someone is going to get killed when they go through intersections. Half the time the cars in the procession don't keep up with one another and there is a huge gap going through red lights. Like I'm going to see some tiny, dirty little suction cup flag on the rear deck of their car when I have a green light.

Meet at the cemetery. Not a big deal.
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