Posted: 9/2/2002 7:12:33 PM EDT
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I think I may have seen this on here before if so still worth another look. "DO NOT FORGET" I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List," asked myself, "Why didn't the Jews fight back?" Now I know why. I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself, "Why weren't we prepared?" Now I know why. Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil people. On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed themselves to be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists because they did not comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated their captors. On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too many Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to the dominance of others. Many political pundits, pacifists and media personnel want us to forget the carnage. They say we must focus on the bravery of the rescuers and ignore the cowardice of the killers. They implore us to understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying devastating footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers. I will not be manipulated. I will not pretend to understand. I will not forget. I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to kick our country when it was vulnerable and hurting. I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's address to the nation with the snide remark, "No matter how you feel about him, he is still our president." I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned President Bush's motives for not returning immediately to Washington, DC and commented, "We're all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington." And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halperin warned if reporters weren't informed of every little detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor should they be expected -- to show deference." I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an attack on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United States of America. I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic terrorists and their supporters with the world's most sophisticated telecommunications equipment and encryption technology, thereby compromising America's ability to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes and modem communications. I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like those perfected by the previous administration. I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like the silly "Have your bags been under your control?" question at the airport. I will not be influenced by so called,"antiwar demonstrators" who exploit the right of _expression to chant anti-American obscenities. I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by American war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines. I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose reassurance over reality. I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told Labor Party conference, "They have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of the innocent. If they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000, does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in it? There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of minds, no point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice: defeat it or be defeated by it. And defeat it we must!" I will force myself to: -hear the weeping -feel the helplessness -imagine the terror -sense the panic -smell the burning flesh - experience the loss - remember the hatred. I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself, "Where did they find the courage?" Now I know. We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living. -- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.) Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine. |
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I'll be posting this in various places so people get mad and don't forget. I took it at ground zero, it was pretty much the only body pic I took outside of the funeral processions. Think of the torture this woman went through. Think of the torture her family still goes through. Did she deserve it? No. Do the terrorists and their fanatical religion deserve it now? More than you'll ever know. [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/thebeekeeper1%2FBODYsmall%2Ejpg[/img] |
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I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself, "Where did they find the courage?" Uh, through propaganda, mostly. If you don't like all this shit, why didn't you speak up when Roosevelt had you drafted, threw a rifle in your hands, and sent you off to die in the war that he did everything he could to make happen? Or was your war Korea or Vietman, which were even more thoroughly pointless? Here we go... The Jews didn't fight back because they are pacificists by nature. All throughout the history of their race there is the one, underlying belief that God will provide and God will take care of them. They had faith, that's why they didn't fight back. And it was a different time then--there was no holocaust to look back on and say, "damn! We've got to do something!" Pearl Harbor? Give me a break. The US was prepared. Somebody witheld key information. 9/11--The passengers didn't fight back for the same reason--all hijackings prior to 9/11 had been resolved on the ground with minimal loss of life. The pilots were told exactly how to react and they did what they were supposed to do. Unfortunately, it was the wrong thing. DO you think they weren't brave? Some nations are dedicated to the domination of others? Yeah--like the United States, for example, right? The US is sticking its nose in EVERYONE else's business, and some people are just getting really pissed off about it. Moving along... Forget the part about not being maniuplated. You are manipulated every day in so many subtle ways that you might as well forget about never being manipulated. Not pretending to understand--that's a good idea. It's a good idea to not to pretend to understand anything about anyone, ever. You never will understand them, accept it. Skipping a few here--liberal media, yadda, yadda, yadda--still better than what China has, we at least know for sure they have an agenda... Obviously all airline security is stupid and pointless... Let's see what else? Oh yes, busting on antiwar demonstrators. What is more obscene? Being an antiwar activist or being a chickenhawk willing to send other people's children off to die in a pointless and unnecessary war? I guess as long as you don't have to see it or take part in it directly, it's just fine, right? Like the millions of people killed in Vietnam and Korea, that was all worth it, yeah? America is so much more free and peaceful because of those two wars. I will force myself to: -hear the weeping -feel the helplessness -imagine the terror -sense the panic -smell the burning flesh - experience the loss - remember the hatred. That is an excellent idea! But do it for both sides, will you? There are human beings--on BOTH SIDES, most of them innocent, dying because of what our nation does and more will die with what it is about to do. Burning American flesh smells the same as any other. If you don't like it, why are you so willing to send thousands of young American men to be slaughtered? There are alternatives. We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living. Again, I agree, but the road we are headed down is going to guarantee that no American lives in liberty or peace ever again. The choice you are making is not the right one at all. And what the hell do you mean? We have so little liberty right now that I'm sure not going to get on board for another war to fight for "freedom" or the American way of life (which looks increasingly like abject poverty to me) or whatever other bullshit our idiot leaders think motivates us. Fuck them, and fuck their wars. Let them go fight it themselves if it so goddamned important, they should earn what they pay themselves. The government exists for the benefit of the people, not the other way around. |
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Does this loser ever have anything positive to say? Or is it a steady droning whine? He must be a cowardly, sniveling weakling.[flame] Sorry to see this jackass wreck your thread 1GUNRUNNER.[pissed] Balzac72, that is a hard picture to view.[>(]If you were among the rescue personnel at ground zero, thanks for doing a difficult job! [^] |
| 1GUNRUNNER, That was a great post, you sir are a true American...Semper-Fi[left][b]trickshot:[/b] You might want to consider moving in with the poor innocent terrorist nations being that you feel so strongly against the USA. We may not be the America that was our Founding Fathers creation, but there is no country better and it is up to us and future generations to use our powers to elect the right people. You are not a team player, you have to love this country, even with all of it's faults, and when we are at war it is our duty as Americans to fight for our country. You aren't one of the anti-war protestors are you? You sure post like one.[/left] |
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Quoted: Quoted: 1GUNRUNNER, That was a great post, you sir are a true American...Semper-Fi I can not take credit for writing that, I merely passed it along. |
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I just went through this with a friend of mine earlier tonight, as she was telling me about a book report she did, in the book "In Retrospect". Vietnam occured when the Executive Branch saw a need and a location in which they could arrest the spread of and isolate Communism. There is a certain lifespan on a communist system of government before it dies from self inflicted economic starvation. In the light of "which superpower is dead from economic starvation, and which superpower is alive and well?", Vietnam was a success. The detractors, in the final analysis, advocate Communism, through their pseudo-intellectual criticisms of the war. Communism was spreading. The enemy was gaining allies faster than we could arm to stop them militarily. We decided to intervene and stop it from spreading. We did. Communism folded under it's own weight. Success, tactically and strategically. All the "chickenhawk" rhetoric is a distractor so people can feel confident about continuing to criticize Vietnam. Failure to recognize that Communism can only succeed where resources are taken from fresh territory, because the system itself fails to produce enough to sustain, is part of the misguided viewpoint. Military takeovers become a necessity for communist systems. It would have eventually been a threat. While I do not want to hijack this thread any more than it already has been, I will say that we have to understand what motivates our enemy in order to gain indigenous allies and to properly target enemy weakness. We must understand and comprehend, or we will lose. |
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Quoted: Thanks 1GUNRUNNER for your service to our country. PS:To all that think that our country isn't going down the shitter....get an eyefull of that crap on the History Channel about Army basic training. I don't get the history channel anymore, what is offensive about it? [b]TRICKSHOT,[/b] once again you are a complete and utter asshole. Burn in hell with your terrorist muslim maggot buddies. You truly fit in well with that crowd. Kaesan, I wasn't a rescue worker per se, but for the day that I was at the ground zero site, I was helping search for survivors and mostly trying to stay out of the way of the FDNY. They were especially brutal to anyone that didn't have a badge on holding a camera. I'm only a law student right now, so this was a big departure from reality for me and made an old man and a patriot out of me really fast. There were things far worse that I couldn't shoot. This was the one I did, only because in my eyes, she had already been rescued and there was dignity for her, unlike the way in which she was found. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Thanks 1GUNRUNNER for your service to our country. PS:To all that think that our country isn't going down the shitter....get an eyefull of that crap on the History Channel about Army basic training. I don't get the history channel anymore, what is offensive about it? [b]TRICKSHOT,[/b] once again you are a complete and utter asshole. Burn in hell with your terrorist muslim maggot buddies. You truly fit in well with that crowd. Kaesan, I wasn't a rescue worker per se, but for the day that I was at the ground zero site, I was helping search for survivors and mostly trying to stay out of the way of the FDNY. They were especially brutal to anyone that didn't have a badge on holding a camera. I'm only a law student right now, so this was a big departure from reality for me and made an old man and a patriot out of me really fast. There were things far worse that I couldn't shoot. This was the one I did, only because in my eyes, she had already been rescued and there was dignity for her, unlike the way in which she was found. Stuff like: "I hope we never have to go to war with those losers on point." "God help us if those people ever go to war." I gather that the recruits depicted are not the best and the brightest. |