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Posted: 1/13/2013 6:53:57 PM EDT
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Locking this down.
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I'd offer a full refund if he sends it back. But I wouldn't offer any partial refund since the scope is priced in line with what it's worth.
Of course I wouldn't send him a dime back until I had the scope back and give completely go over it and make sure he didn't dick with it. But.. after a 3 month hiatus.. I wouldn't have even responded. I started putting 72 hour inspection in all my ads because of idiots like that. |
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Quoted: I sold a member here a like-new scope not too long ago. I mistakenly sold it as a Russian scope, and instead it turned out to be from Belarus. This was back in September of '12. We were exchanging PM's to try and come to an agreement about a possible return or pay him back the difference, and then I didn't hear back from him until today. That was almost three months ago. I'm not quite sure what to do. He's had it for all this time. I do not want to take it back because he's had it in his possession for this long. He's wanting to value the scope significantly less than the original sale price, even though reliable vendors (who haven't raised their prices amidst all the "panic") value the same scope, new, in the same ball park. What to do, GD? IMO, tough. He bought it. However, I don't know enough about the subject to say whether I'd consider you having misrepresented the item. Belarus, Russia, wouldn't fucking matter to me. Is there any price or quality difference between the two? |
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3 months with no contact? Piff, he went over the "you own it now" cliff about 2 months ago. Who broke off contact? If it was him then I don't see how you have any fault in the matter, especially if you were trying to make it right. He said he would get back to me, which he did not until today. |
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Quoted: I would not take something back after someone had it for 3 months. Nor would I. And I wouldn't even talk about it beyond say, three days of ownership or something. But... I'd be clear about what I owned before I then listed it clearly. Seller bears some blame here, but I don't really see an issue with Belarus vs. Russia, personally. End of the day and all that aside, it's been three months. |
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has he shown you definitive proof that it is in fact of non-russian origin? Actually, no. I haven't seen a photo of it saying POSP (Belarus), instead of PSO, as he claims. Honestly, it's been so long, I can't remember the scope details down to the minutia of the markings. |
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How much money we talking about? I sold the scope for $250. New Belarusian ones are around $240 + shipping at reputable vendors. How much is he wanting back? eta: yeah, 3 months is a long time. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Good question! He's asking me what I'd be willing to send back. I'm hesitating because of the time lapsed, and the principle of the matter. |
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Okay so basically, there is a $100 difference between Belarussian and Russian optics? http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/pso.html http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/posp.html I can see why he'd be a bit perturbed about being led to believe said scope was Russian origin. |
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Quoted: 3 months? Sorry, past the statute of limitations. He missed his chance. This, no telling if he's used the shit out of it and decided he'd prefer the money. I could understand a few weeks, tops, but after three months I'd probably tell him to piss up a rope  |
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What were you planning to do when he first pointed out the problem 3 months ago?
You did misrepresent your scope and it sounds like he could of bought a brand new one instead of your used one for the same price. Like someone else posted, I would probably send him $30. I would of sent more if it wasn't 3 months later. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I've been in a somewhat similar position as you. Sold a guy what I believed was a factory Colt SP2 on the EE. I had recieved the rifle in a local trade for a MSAR aug copy and the SP2 had a real tight upper/lower fit. You could not open it by hand it was so tight. Just put it away in my safe for a rainy day and never messed with it. Anyways...long story/short...it was a Colt parts gun according to the buyer on EE after he received it. Buyer was nice guy, provided the facts why it was not correct, and I have no reason to dispute his findings with the rifle.
Buyer found a correct replacement for the upper receiver and I refunded him half of that cost. This was all pre-panic so did not hurt my wallet too bad. My thing was I wanted to be fair on the deal. However, all this took place within a week.... NOT three months. I say three months is a deal breaker in your case. You did not advertise a lifetime warranty did you?
Keep us posted on how this works out. |
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What were you planning to do when he first pointed out the problem 3 months ago? You did misrepresent your scope and it sounds like he could of bought a brand new one instead of your used one for the same price. Like someone else posted, I would probably send him $30. I would of sent more if it wasn't 3 months later. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm willing to work with him on a fair refund, but the 3 months issue is my hangup. |
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I am the type of person that will bend over backwards to accommodate a deal on EE. Unless there was some extenuating circumstances I would tell him to forget it after three months. The time to have corrected the deal is long past. +1 A few years ago I sold a Polytech Legend AK on the E.E. The buyer promptly sent the funds. When I notified him that I received the money, he told me that he would provide an FFL to ship to when he returned from Afghanistan. A year or so later the FFL showed up. I didn't have a problem holding onto it for him. ETA: As far as the OP's issue. After three months, I wouldn't feel any responsibility to it. None at all. |
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I am the type of person that will bend over backwards to accommodate a deal on EE. Unless there was some extenuating circumstances I would tell him to forget it after three months. The time to have corrected the deal is long past. +1 A few years ago I sold a Polytech Legend AK on the E.E. The buyer promptly sent the funds. When I notified him that I received the money, he told me that he would provide an FFL to ship to when he returned from Afghanistan. A year or so later the FFL showed up. I didn't have a problem holding onto it for him. That's very honorable of you. |
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I don't do partial refunds. Within a reasonable time frame(nothing close to 3 months), I'll consider a refund if the item is returned to me in the exact condition that it left in AND if there's a good reason for it.
I got burned on here once years ago thinking I was doing the right thing by a guy who was less than satisfied. In return, he kept the replacement item I sent him AND the original, before going on to tell a sob story in one of the forums about how bad his life was and bilk a lot of people here out of money and various items. |
