[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Heavy Equipment Operators (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/30/2012 4:55:40 PM EDT
| How did you get into it? I've been looking into it some because I'm doing nothing with my degree and think I'd enjoy it. I've been looking into some schools but don't know if they are a joke or not. Does it help you get a job or do you just have to get in somewhere and learn in the field? |
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B-I-L is an Operating Engineer. He's busy right now, but say's they're not taking in apprentices right now.
Having said that, both of us used to work for a fella that owned a trucking company and small gravel pit. Those are the kind of jobs you can get your feet wet with. |
| Thats what happened to me, I ended up in the loader one day at work about twelve years ago and have been in one ever since. Didn't plan it, it just happened. I started out with a CAT 938F and have operated 938Gs, 950Fs, 950Gs, 950Hs, a 950K, 962G, 966G, 980G, 980H, and my current loader and all time favorite, the 980K. I have also ran our old Terexs, John Deers, our new Terex and our new Komastsu and compared to the CATs they are nasty all pieces of shit. |
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you will start out as pothole, shovel boy, wash, grease and get yelled at to gtfo the way.
then you will do stuff like load trucks in a shitty ass beat to hell skip or loader. they usually dont have heat or air. after a while you will be allowed to start playing with the big loaders and graders. could take years. not every co wants an inexperienced guy operating 6 figure value and up equipment. |
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Thats what happened to me, I ended up in the loader one day at work about twelve years ago and have been in one ever since. Didn't plan it, it just happened. I started out with a CAT 938F and have operated 938Gs, 950Fs, 950Gs, 950Hs, a 950K, 962G, 966G, 980G, 980H, and my current loader and all time favorite, the 980K. I have also ran our old Terexs, John Deers, our new Terex and our new Komastsu and compared to the CATs they are nasty all pieces of shit. Really? A Komatsu I ran was far and away the best wheel loader I ever operated. |
| I spent 12 years as a heavy equipment operator in the Air Force, mostly in RED HORSE. I've run everything from asphalt pavers and concrete saws to D8 Dozers and 15-50 ton cranes. I still couldn't get hired as an equipment operator when I got out. I even have a college degree in civil engineering technology. When it comes to trades it's all about who you know, not what you know, unless it's a trade that requires certifications and/or licences. The best thing you could do is to get a commercial drivers licence. There are many more jobs available to those who can haul the equipment to the job site. |
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I spent 12 years as a heavy equipment operator in the Air Force, mostly in RED HORSE. I've run everything from asphalt pavers and concrete saws to D8 Dozers and 15-50 ton cranes. I still couldn't get hired as an equipment operator when I got out. I even have a college degree in civil engineering technology. When it comes to trades it's all about who you know, not what you know, unless it's a trade that requires certifications and/or licences. The best thing you could do is to get a commercial drivers licence. There are many more jobs available to those who can haul the equipment to the job site. forgot about the cdl. get one. |
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Thats what happened to me, I ended up in the loader one day at work about twelve years ago and have been in one ever since. Didn't plan it, it just happened. I started out with a CAT 938F and have operated 938Gs, 950Fs, 950Gs, 950Hs, a 950K, 962G, 966G, 980G, 980H, and my current loader and all time favorite, the 980K. I have also ran our old Terexs, John Deers, our new Terex and our new Komastsu and compared to the CATs they are nasty all pieces of shit. Years ago my grandfathers business bought a brand new Cat 988B, it was an animal! 11 yard sand spade bucket! BTW OP, not much opportunity in the field right now, especially if you have no experience. |
| Small mines and pits if you know someone or are in the right place at the right time. Some large mine's are willing to train apply as a haul truck driver, most ojt. Municipalities will often hire and then train eventually. Operator's union halls will sometimes pick up apprentices. The field is about as tight as any other right now. Don't know how much operator school helps, but I know a lot of construction outfits including municipalities want you to have a A or B CDL so you can trailer equip wherever its needed. |
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Thats what happened to me, I ended up in the loader one day at work about twelve years ago and have been in one ever since. Didn't plan it, it just happened. I started out with a CAT 938F and have operated 938Gs, 950Fs, 950Gs, 950Hs, a 950K, 962G, 966G, 980G, 980H, and my current loader and all time favorite, the 980K. I have also ran our old Terexs, John Deers, our new Terex and our new Komastsu and compared to the CATs they are nasty all pieces of shit. Years ago my grandfathers business bought a brand new Cat 988B, it was an animal! 11 yard sand spade bucket! BTW OP, not much opportunity in the field right now, especially if you have no experience. That's what I figured but I was curious anyway. |
| yes the cdl is a must i stared out as a labor and then truck driver and then the fill in grader operator on a 12f cat and then the old farts retired and i got a 140 g cat and ran it for 23 years and this year got a 140 m cat and still having fun at it and no i'm the old fart after 32 years and 53 years old and still learning new tricks every day!! |
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I spent 12 years as a heavy equipment operator in the Air Force, mostly in RED HORSE. I've run everything from asphalt pavers and concrete saws to D8 Dozers and 15-50 ton cranes. I still couldn't get hired as an equipment operator when I got out. I even have a college degree in civil engineering technology. When it comes to trades it's all about who you know, not what you know, unless it's a trade that requires certifications and/or licences. The best thing you could do is to get a commercial drivers licence. There are many more jobs available to those who can haul the equipment to the job site. I will 2nd this. In the SeaBee's you learn as much as you want and I did everything except for crane operation and I was good at my job. I found no work being a EO until my dad called his friend who owned a large paving company. Who do you know gets you in the door sometimes. |
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you will start out as pothole, shovel boy, wash, grease and get yelled at to gtfo the way. i did 6 years in the army engineers and when i got out the civies put me through this bs. i lasted a year before threatening one of the sr. operators for his bullshit. i've been in the "entertainment" business for the last 20 years, but i still miss it sometimes. |
| Kind of a side note, but did anyone see that heavy equipment operator game show? It's kind of cool. They have 3, 3 man teams and they have to do various challenges with different pieces of equipment. The winning team gets 12 grand. Why 12 grand? Because 10 wasn't big enough. Haha. Their words not mine. |
| I was an apprentice first. I basically kept my mouth shut and did what ever the crane operator asked me to. Here is the key, if they like you then they will give you seat time. If they don't then you will stuck doing the shitty jobs with no seat time so you will never learn. Cranes are my favorite by far although I like to play with just about anything. |
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training."
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training." I don't have that experience so that kind of sucks. Take a well known CDL class. From what they are asking if you have a Class A CDL you might be good. I say well known for a reason. There are many CDL schools in which you can get your license quickly. When you graduate you still don't know shit. I spent the extra buck and got hours upon hours of road training with all the different types of transmissions. There were guys in my class that already had a CDL but couldn't drive for shit because they went to a bootleg school. I will add that I make WAAAAAY more than my wife and she has a masters. Plus I have a lot of fun at work. Cranes are where the money is at. I acquired my CDL so I can drive mobile cranes, which makes me worth more. Too bad you don't live near me. I could get you on as an apprentice. |
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Usually work your way into it. start out on the ground I joined the National Guard and became a 21E, now 12N. Then we deployed with a convoy security mission.
Many soldiers in my company were operators or worked in the construction field in the civilian world too. |
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training." I don't have that experience so that kind of sucks. Take a well known CDL class. From what they are asking if you have a Class A CDL you might be good. I say well known for a reason. There are many CDL schools in which you can get your license quickly. When you graduate you still don't know shit. I spent the extra buck and got hours upon hours of road training with all the different types of transmissions. There were guys in my class that already had a CDL but couldn't drive for shit because they went to a bootleg school. I will add that I make WAAAAAY more than my wife and she has a masters. Plus I have a lot of fun at work. Cranes are where the money is at. I acquired my CDL so I can drive mobile cranes, which makes me worth more. Too bad you don't live near me. I could get you on as an apprentice. Yea that's too bad. I'd be willing to relocate, but I don't know about Florida lol. Don't think I could live in a swamp. What about freelance stuff? Is there money to be made by buying a backhoe or something and renting your equipment and services out? |
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Kid in my unit recently got on as an apprentice mechanic at a mine. Another reservist hooked several people up with jobs there. They must have liked him, and after a week or two they had him move one of the giant dump trucks. He did OK, so they had him move some more stuff. A couple of months later he's spent more time driving various giant pieces of equipment than doing maintenance on them. He's loving it. The skill you gain as a military operator may not get you a job, but being in a reserve unit with a bunch of employed operators just might. Drilling with someone is a good way to figure out if they are a good hire or not. |
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Kid in my unit recently got on as an apprentice mechanic at a mine. Another reservist hooked several people up with jobs there. They must have liked him, and after a week or two they had him move one of the giant dump trucks. He did OK, so they had him move some more stuff. A couple of months later he's spent more time driving various giant pieces of equipment than doing maintenance on them. He's loving it. The skill you gain as a military operator may not get you a job, but being in a reserve unit with a bunch of employed operators just might. Drilling with someone is a good way to figure out if they are a good hire or not. Yea joining the military is kind of out of the question. I've considered it recently but I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. |
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Yea joining the military is kind of out of the question. I've considered it recently but I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. And you'll find many Officers telling you if they had to do it again they'd go Warrant Officer. Especially if you have a family. |
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Quoted: Thats what happened to me, I ended up in the loader one day at work about twelve years ago and have been in one ever since. Didn't plan it, it just happened. I started out with a CAT 938F and have operated 938Gs, 950Fs, 950Gs, 950Hs, a 950K, 962G, 966G, 980G, 980H, and my current loader and all time favorite, the 980K. I have also ran our old Terexs, John Deers, our new Terex and our new Komastsu and compared to the CATs they are nasty all pieces of shit. its even funner when you get to run the big boys,988 992 994 |
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I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. Why? I don't know I just think I would prefer being an officer. My uncle served 25 years + in the Navy as an officer and he loved it. Always encouraged me to do it but told me never to enlist. Nothing against enlisting but I put the time and effort into getting an education. If I can use that to get into officer's school then why waste it? |
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Cool. Thank you for all the great info. I figured freelance stuff was really competitive. Maybe if construction picks up again it'll be better. I know how that stuff goes with construction companies and regulations and paperwork. My family owns a large construction company. It's a long story why I'm not involved in the business but there is really big money to be made if done right.
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<----Past Operating Engineer member for 27 years in mining. I ended up operating a digger derrick, (Line truck for setting power poles for you layman) Seek out open pit mining operations. Coal, gold, copper; Wyoming, Nevada, Arizona. Scrapers and Heavy off road trucks were typically entry level jobs requiring minimal training. From there ojt training/bid out/jump on equipment. loaders (rubber tired and tracked), hoes, dozers, motor graders, cranes, drill rigs...You will make a lot of coin and You will pay your dues. Nights shifts, back shifts, maybe even union. Not sure how many mines are union now days. Got out of the mining game in 2006. 4100 P&H shovels with 80 ton payload bucket is the king of the hill, also 2570 BE draglines with 110 yard buckets. (or other brands of similiar size) ETA: Alberta, Canada is thick with mines-tar sands, coal....just gotta live in the great white north. Not sure about work visas. My US employer here is from Alberta and last year there was talk of some US workers going up there for some outage work. Never got ironed out and no one went. Maybe this year some will.
"What about freelance stuff? Is there money to be made by buying a backhoe or something and renting your equipment and services out?" I know a few that have gone that route. Pretty competitive/cut throat around here in this economy. Most are stretched thin and underbidding for work, trying to keep the lights on and eat... Might work in N. Dakota/or areas that are booming or if you have an in with an established contractor that you can count on for sub-contracting work. My brother shut down his road and bridge construction Co. this year. He did mostly state DOT and public works projects. The paper work, regulations etc. were mind boggling. He was hanging on, but said hell with it and shut down the business when his wife divorced him for being a grouchy work-aholic. |
| I work in a NON UNION steel mill and heavy equipment operator is one of the starting positions with a starting pay of around $60-65k, experiance is only a plus not a requirement, the only requirements are work ethic, attitude, etc,etc I did it for a couple of years, we got some BIG ASS EQUIPMENT in a steel mill so there is a little fun in it. |
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I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. Why? I don't know I just think I would prefer being an officer. My uncle served 25 years + in the Navy as an officer and he loved it. Always encouraged me to do it but told me never to enlist. Nothing against enlisting but I put the time and effort into getting an education. If I can use that to get into officer's school then why waste it? Because your stated goal is to become an equipment operator. Ok you're right. It's just an option I'm considering. I guess my point is, if I were to join the military, I would want to go in as an officer and not go the equipment route. As far as getting into becoming an equipment operator I'd like to keep it civilian. |
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I work in a NON UNION steel mill and heavy equipment operator is one of the starting positions with a starting pay of around $60-65k, experiance is only a plus not a requirement, the only requirements are work ethic, attitude, etc,etc I did it for a couple of years, we got some BIG ASS EQUIPMENT in a steel mill so there is a little fun in it. Sounds like a cool place to work. |
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training." I don't have that experience so that kind of sucks. Take a well known CDL class. From what they are asking if you have a Class A CDL you might be good. I say well known for a reason. There are many CDL schools in which you can get your license quickly. When you graduate you still don't know shit. I spent the extra buck and got hours upon hours of road training with all the different types of transmissions. There were guys in my class that already had a CDL but couldn't drive for shit because they went to a bootleg school. I will add that I make WAAAAAY more than my wife and she has a masters. Plus I have a lot of fun at work. Cranes are where the money is at. I acquired my CDL so I can drive mobile cranes, which makes me worth more. Too bad you don't live near me. I could get you on as an apprentice. Where do you live |
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training." I don't have that experience so that kind of sucks. Take a well known CDL class. From what they are asking if you have a Class A CDL you might be good. I say well known for a reason. There are many CDL schools in which you can get your license quickly. When you graduate you still don't know shit. I spent the extra buck and got hours upon hours of road training with all the different types of transmissions. There were guys in my class that already had a CDL but couldn't drive for shit because they went to a bootleg school. I will add that I make WAAAAAY more than my wife and she has a masters. Plus I have a lot of fun at work. Cranes are where the money is at. I acquired my CDL so I can drive mobile cranes, which makes me worth more. Too bad you don't live near me. I could get you on as an apprentice. Where do you live Miami. The apprentice yard is in Pembroke Pines. |
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Thats what happened to me, I ended up in the loader one day at work about twelve years ago and have been in one ever since. Didn't plan it, it just happened. I started out with a CAT 938F and have operated 938Gs, 950Fs, 950Gs, 950Hs, a 950K, 962G, 966G, 980G, 980H, and my current loader and all time favorite, the 980K. I have also ran our old Terexs, John Deers, our new Terex and our new Komastsu and compared to the CATs they are nasty all pieces of shit. its even funner when you get to run the big boys,988 992 994 As an operator of various excavation equipment for years (back ho-excavator, bulldozer-loader-dump trucks-plant operator) I'd like to make an observation: the larger the piece of equipment, the easier it is to run. For example, a D-8 dozer is simple to carry a grade compared to a D-3 dozer. A Cat 988B loader is easier to pull a bucket of dirt out of a stock pile, then it is to dig with a Cat 953 track loader. A Cat 345 excavator is much easier digging than running a Kubota KX121 excavator digging in a trench. Again, the bigger the machine, the easier it is to run....*if* you are proficient in that type machine. Just my thoughts after 30+ years of experience. |
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I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. Why? I don't know I just think I would prefer being an officer. My uncle served 25 years + in the Navy as an officer and he loved it. Always encouraged me to do it but told me never to enlist. Nothing against enlisting but I put the time and effort into getting an education. If I can use that to get into officer's school then why waste it? Yet you're asking questions about a $15 dollar an hour job, learning to run excavation equipment on construction sites in 2013??? |
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Cool. Thank you for all the great info. I figured freelance stuff was really competitive. Maybe if construction picks up again it'll be better. I know how that stuff goes with construction companies and regulations and paperwork. My family owns a large construction company. It's a long story why I'm not involved in the business but there is really big money to be made if done right. Quoted:
<----Past Operating Engineer member for 27 years in mining. I ended up operating a digger derrick, (Line truck for setting power poles for you layman) Seek out open pit mining operations. Coal, gold, copper; Wyoming, Nevada, Arizona. Scrapers and Heavy off road trucks were typically entry level jobs requiring minimal training. From there ojt training/bid out/jump on equipment. loaders (rubber tired and tracked), hoes, dozers, motor graders, cranes, drill rigs...You will make a lot of coin and You will pay your dues. Nights shifts, back shifts, maybe even union. Not sure how many mines are union now days. Got out of the mining game in 2006. 4100 P&H shovels with 80 ton payload bucket is the king of the hill, also 2570 BE draglines with 110 yard buckets. (or other brands of similiar size) ETA: Alberta, Canada is thick with mines-tar sands, coal....just gotta live in the great white north. Not sure about work visas. My US employer here is from Alberta and last year there was talk of some US workers going up there for some outage work. Never got ironed out and no one went. Maybe this year some will.
"What about freelance stuff? Is there money to be made by buying a backhoe or something and renting your equipment and services out?" I know a few that have gone that route. Pretty competitive/cut throat around here in this economy. Most are stretched thin and underbidding for work, trying to keep the lights on and eat... Might work in N. Dakota/or areas that are booming or if you have an in with an established contractor that you can count on for sub-contracting work. My brother shut down his road and bridge construction Co. this year. He did mostly state DOT and public works projects. The paper work, regulations etc. were mind boggling. He was hanging on, but said hell with it and shut down the business when his wife divorced him for being a grouchy work-aholic. Disregard my last post, I had no idea you had a family business ready to hire you. In your case, just go out to the job site and take any machine you want. |
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I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. Why? I don't know I just think I would prefer being an officer. My uncle served 25 years + in the Navy as an officer and he loved it. Always encouraged me to do it but told me never to enlist. Nothing against enlisting but I put the time and effort into getting an education. If I can use that to get into officer's school then why waste it? Yet you're asking questions about a $15 dollar $28.86 an hour job, learning to run excavation equipment on construction sites in 2013??? FIFY |
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I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. Why? I don't know I just think I would prefer being an officer. My uncle served 25 years + in the Navy as an officer and he loved it. Always encouraged me to do it but told me never to enlist. Nothing against enlisting but I put the time and effort into getting an education. If I can use that to get into officer's school then why waste it? Because your stated goal is to become an equipment operator. Ok you're right. It's just an option I'm considering. I guess my point is, if I were to join the military, I would want to go in as an officer and not go the equipment route. As far as getting into becoming an equipment operator I'd like to keep it civilian. There are other options than active duty. Reserves and NG componets. No one is forced to be an officer just because they have a college degree. I am curious why you think you want to be an officer. |
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training." I don't have that experience so that kind of sucks. Take a well known CDL class. From what they are asking if you have a Class A CDL you might be good. I say well known for a reason. There are many CDL schools in which you can get your license quickly. When you graduate you still don't know shit. I spent the extra buck and got hours upon hours of road training with all the different types of transmissions. There were guys in my class that already had a CDL but couldn't drive for shit because they went to a bootleg school. I will add that I make WAAAAAY more than my wife and she has a masters. Plus I have a lot of fun at work. Cranes are where the money is at. I acquired my CDL so I can drive mobile cranes, which makes me worth more. Too bad you don't live near me. I could get you on as an apprentice. Where do you live Miami. The apprentice yard is in Pembroke Pines. Where in Pines? |
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I'm 25 and have a degree so the only way I'd go in is as an Officer. Why? I don't know I just think I would prefer being an officer. My uncle served 25 years + in the Navy as an officer and he loved it. Always encouraged me to do it but told me never to enlist. Nothing against enlisting but I put the time and effort into getting an education. If I can use that to get into officer's school then why waste it? Because your stated goal is to become an equipment operator. Ok you're right. It's just an option I'm considering. I guess my point is, if I were to join the military, I would want to go in as an officer and not go the equipment route. As far as getting into becoming an equipment operator I'd like to keep it civilian. Plus.....in 2013, the military has most officer billets stocked right up with the new downsizing and diverse college output right now; so, if you're a white dude with a 3.0 GPA from State U, you might make that call to Uncle Mike for that plant operator position cleaning the crusher
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training." I don't have that experience so that kind of sucks. Take a well known CDL class. From what they are asking if you have a Class A CDL you might be good. I say well known for a reason. There are many CDL schools in which you can get your license quickly. When you graduate you still don't know shit. I spent the extra buck and got hours upon hours of road training with all the different types of transmissions. There were guys in my class that already had a CDL but couldn't drive for shit because they went to a bootleg school. I will add that I make WAAAAAY more than my wife and she has a masters. Plus I have a lot of fun at work. Cranes are where the money is at. I acquired my CDL so I can drive mobile cranes, which makes me worth more. Too bad you don't live near me. I could get you on as an apprentice. Where do you live Miami. The apprentice yard is in Pembroke Pines. Damn, too far for me |
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I just found job openings for the state for equipment operators. You have to take a written test, which should be easy but you also need; "Six months experience in the operation and maintenance of large vans, buses and single-chassis trucks with a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more; OR an equivalent combination of experience or training." I don't have that experience so that kind of sucks. Take a well known CDL class. From what they are asking if you have a Class A CDL you might be good. I say well known for a reason. There are many CDL schools in which you can get your license quickly. When you graduate you still don't know shit. I spent the extra buck and got hours upon hours of road training with all the different types of transmissions. There were guys in my class that already had a CDL but couldn't drive for shit because they went to a bootleg school. I will add that I make WAAAAAY more than my wife and she has a masters. Plus I have a lot of fun at work. Cranes are where the money is at. I acquired my CDL so I can drive mobile cranes, which makes me worth more. Too bad you don't live near me. I could get you on as an apprentice. Where do you live Miami. The apprentice yard is in Pembroke Pines. Where in Pines? Sheridan St west of 75 |



