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12/23/2012 12:47:00 PM EDT
If someone has broken into my email and is sending inflammatory messages from it,is there any way I can track this person down prove it's him And maybe bring up charges on him?

I know for a fact who it is.





It all stems from this.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_13/505803_.html&page=2&anc=5492262#i5492262



This has definitely taught me a hard lesson on not using my name as my email.
12/23/2012 12:47:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Where is the mail hosted?  If its not under your control and its with a bigger host you won't get far.
12/23/2012 12:49:00 PM EDT
[#2]
gmail
12/23/2012 12:49:07 PM EDT
[#3]


If its Gmail, its easy for you to get the last used IP addresses. Other services, not so much, and good luck getting them to provide logs.


ETA: Bottom right on Gmail, Last Account Activity Details.
12/23/2012 12:52:21 PM EDT
[#4]
Does it mean anything that the sent email folder doesn't have these messages in it?
12/23/2012 12:53:41 PM EDT
[#5]
Email spoofing.
12/23/2012 12:54:22 PM EDT
[#6]
anyway to stop this?

The Ip is mine in all the listings of activity

12/23/2012 12:55:06 PM EDT
[#7]
have you changed you password to prevent further access?
12/23/2012 12:55:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Does it mean anything that the sent email folder doesn't have these messages in it?


It means he probably isn't actually accessing your email.  Just putting your address and info in the email header so it looks like he did.

Just set up a filter to put any emails from that look like the are from you  in your junk folder.  It won't effect your ability to send and receive email, and you won't see his harassing BS anymore.

EDIT - Misunderstood what is going on.  But the way he is "using" your email is the same, he is just doing it to email other people.
12/23/2012 12:55:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Email spoofing.


Ohhhh!
12/23/2012 12:56:17 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


have you changed you password to prevent further access?


Yes but the pattern to my password is totally random and really can't understand how someone could guess it.



 
12/23/2012 12:59:33 PM EDT
[#11]
Is there any way I can prove that he's sending them.This guy's been threatening me and being a pain in the ass douchbag because he didn't like my prices


Quoted:



Quoted:

Does it mean anything that the sent email folder doesn't have these messages in it?




It means he probably isn't actually accessing your email.  Just putting your address and info in the email header so it looks like he did.



Just set up a filter to put any emails from that look like the are from you  in your junk folder.  It won't effect your ability to send and receive email, and you won't see his harassing BS anymore.






 
12/23/2012 1:02:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Email spoofing.


Yeap, guy is just making it look like its your email address and setting you as the reply too
12/23/2012 1:04:30 PM EDT
[#13]
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anyway to stop this?
The Ip is mine in all the listings of activity

This tells me your account was not hacked.

SMTP (Simple Mail Transport Protocol) is the backbone of email - and is notoriously lax in terms of security. For example, it is perfectly valid for me to craft an email, sent from my own ISP and mail server, but using your email address in the "From" field.

In fact, this very tactic is used by spamming trojans/malware.

If you're concerned about your contacts thinking you're spamming or have lost control of your account (which is apparently not the case), I think your best option is to send out an "all contacts" email (putting all addresses in the BCC line to keep them confidential) letting them know you're aware of spam being sent under your name, offer apologies, and assure them that you would not do such a thing.
12/23/2012 1:04:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Is there any way I can prove that he's sending them.This guy's been threatening me and being a pain in the ass douchbag because he didn't like my prices
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does it mean anything that the sent email folder doesn't have these messages in it?


It means he probably isn't actually accessing your email.  Just putting your address and info in the email header so it looks like he did.

Just set up a filter to put any emails from that look like the are from you  in your junk folder.  It won't effect your ability to send and receive email, and you won't see his harassing BS anymore.


 


Yes, sort of, maybe. You'd need a copy of the full headers of one of the messages that he sent. If he's dumb enough to use a standard email client to do the spoofing then his IP address will be the originating IP. If he's not the technological equivalent of a window licker though, he'd be doing it via trivially easy code on a server or alternatively using one or more anonymous proxies.

12/23/2012 1:08:09 PM EDT
[#15]



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have you changed you password to prevent further access?


Yes but the pattern to my password is totally random and really can't understand how someone could guess it.

 


He didn't.

 



Spoofing (making email look like it came from somewhere else) is as easy as writing a different return address on the outside of a postal envelope.  




It works better on email, because people think "computer = credibility" and believe it.




What do you think spammers do? Use their own email addresses?
12/23/2012 1:08:20 PM EDT
[#16]



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Quoted:

Is there any way I can prove that he's sending them.This guy's been threatening me and being a pain in the ass douchbag because he didn't like my prices


Quoted:


Quoted:

Does it mean anything that the sent email folder doesn't have these messages in it?




It means he probably isn't actually accessing your email.  Just putting your address and info in the email header so it looks like he did.



Just set up a filter to put any emails from that look like the are from you  in your junk folder.  It won't effect your ability to send and receive email, and you won't see his harassing BS anymore.




 




Yes, sort of, maybe. You'd need a copy of the full headers of one of the messages that he sent. If he's dumb enough to use a standard email client to do the spoofing then his IP address will be the originating IP. If he's not the technological equivalent of a window licker though, he'd be doing it via trivially easy code on a server or alternatively using one or more anonymous proxies.





how do you find this info?



 
12/23/2012 1:09:28 PM EDT
[#17]
When I tried to reply to the message it bounced it back.
12/23/2012 1:10:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Is there any way I can prove that he's sending them.This guy's been threatening me and being a pain in the ass douchbag because he didn't like my prices
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does it mean anything that the sent email folder doesn't have these messages in it?


It means he probably isn't actually accessing your email.  Just putting your address and info in the email header so it looks like he did.

Just set up a filter to put any emails from that look like the are from you  in your junk folder.  It won't effect your ability to send and receive email, and you won't see his harassing BS anymore.


 


Yes, sort of, maybe. You'd need a copy of the full headers of one of the messages that he sent. If he's dumb enough to use a standard email client to do the spoofing then his IP address will be the originating IP. If he's not the technological equivalent of a window licker though, he'd be doing it via trivially easy code on a server or alternatively using one or more anonymous proxies.


how do you find this info?
 


Someone who has received one of the spoofed message would need to copy/paste the full headers and send them to you to analyze.

How they would do that depends on what email program they used to receive the spoofed message.
12/23/2012 1:15:25 PM EDT
[#19]





Find the "Show Original" setting.




All the "junk" at the top is the header.  Remove the message and your email address if you want, and post it and we can find him.
12/23/2012 1:55:30 PM EDT
[#20]
Fuck it I found his address and where he works...Im going to print off at 161 emails and make copies.I' going to give them to his boss and all his neighbors maybe he'll stop then
12/23/2012 2:00:19 PM EDT
[#21]
You'd better be sure that's him and not someone just using another victim's name.
12/23/2012 2:08:03 PM EDT
[#22]
Its him,he's been outed on another couple site for doing the same shit to other people.I contacted one of them and he gave me all his info,The info I found matches.