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12/16/2012 12:17:50 PM EDT
HMS....Her Majesties Ship

USS....United States Ship?

SSN....?

Right/wrong? Any others?
12/16/2012 12:18:29 PM EDT
[#1]
Yep... USS Esses...
12/16/2012 12:21:41 PM EDT
[#2]
An SSN is a USS first.  Eg. USS Los Angeles.  I believe SSN is Ship Submersible Nuclear.
12/16/2012 12:22:42 PM EDT
[#3]
RMS.

As in RMS Titanic

Royal Mail Steamer
12/16/2012 12:23:41 PM EDT
[#4]
AMB:  Attsa Ma Boateh

12/16/2012 12:25:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Hospital ships and other US government auxiliary ships are USNS.
12/16/2012 12:26:05 PM EDT
[#6]
USCGC

United States Coast Guard Cutter
12/16/2012 12:27:23 PM EDT
[#7]
M/V merchant vessel
12/16/2012 12:28:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Here's a comprehensive list -



12/16/2012 12:28:41 PM EDT
[#9]
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M/V merchant vessel


Let's not leave out F/V then.

Fishing Vessel
12/16/2012 12:29:40 PM EDT
[#10]
NCC Naval Construction Contract
12/16/2012 12:30:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Comprehensive list here:

Ship Designations
12/16/2012 12:31:07 PM EDT
[#12]
BSG-75
12/16/2012 12:32:07 PM EDT
[#13]
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Hospital ships and other US government auxiliary ships are USNS.


USNS stands for US Naval Ship. They have civilian crews, but are commanded by a Naval officer. These ships wear the standard navy haze grey paint scheme, but have a blue & gold band around the stack.

On hospital ships, the ship's company are civilians, but the medical staff are all US Navy.

12/16/2012 12:33:40 PM EDT
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NCC Naval Construction Contract


It has never been canonically established what the letters "NCC" or "NX" stand for, but in the 23rd and 24th centuries, "NX" (not to be confused with NX-class) seemed to be used to designate experimental or prototype starships while "NCC" designated normal production vessels.


The shuttlecraft N.C.C. 1701⁄9
Several close-ups, in "Mudd's Passion", of a registry number on an Enterprise shuttlecraft, show the prefix given as "N.C.C.", suggesting the letters are in fact an abbreviation. The 1975 publications Star Trek Blueprints and Star Fleet Technical Manual designate the abbreviation to be "Naval Construction Contract". The Star Trek Blueprints have a label on page three with "Naval Construction Code Number", indicating another meaning of NCC. Lastly, an old studio model blueprint designed for promotional studio use has the meaning explained as "Naval Contact Code"

From Memory Alpha
12/16/2012 12:34:48 PM EDT
[#15]
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Here's a comprehensive list -



What's CVN?  

It doesn't appear to be listed.  Does that mean it's something that I'm misremembering?
12/16/2012 12:34:52 PM EDT
[#16]
SOS




12/16/2012 12:35:17 PM EDT
[#17]
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What's CVN?  

It doesn't appear to be listed.  Does that mean it's something that I'm misremembering?

Aircraft carrier, nuclear.

12/16/2012 12:37:00 PM EDT
[#18]
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What's CVN?  

It doesn't appear to be listed.  Does that mean it's something that I'm misremembering?

Aircraft carrier, nuclear.



Yes. It derives from Cruiser aViation Nuclear

A was already taken for Armored.

Comprehensive list of US Navy Hull designations here.
12/16/2012 12:39:24 PM EDT
[#19]
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What's CVN?  

It doesn't appear to be listed.  Does that mean it's something that I'm misremembering?

Aircraft carrier, nuclear.



Yes. It derives from Cruiser aViation Nuclear

A was already taken for Armored.
V was for heavier-than-air. They still used lighter than air aircraft when the first carriers were built. Same reason Navy and Marine squadrons begin with V.

12/16/2012 12:43:27 PM EDT
[#20]


Well played, sir.    

12/16/2012 12:43:37 PM EDT
[#21]
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M/V merchant vessel


wrong, common mistonception, MV and SS indicate the powerplant type
MV= motor vessel
SS = steamship
S/V = sailing vessel sometimes you'll also see SSV for sailing school vessel or STV for sail training vessel
F/V fishing vessel
GTV = gas turbine vessel, so far as I know there are less than 10 of these operating, well at least on the merchant marine side of things.

military sealift command ships carry a USNS (US naval ship) designation and research vessels carry a R/V designation (usually)

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USNS stands for US Naval Ship. They have civilian crews, but are commanded by a Naval officer. These ships wear the standard navy haze grey paint scheme, but have a blue & gold band around the stack.

On hospital ships, the ship's company are civilians, but the medical staff are all US Navy.

[/quote]

not anymore they aren't
12/16/2012 12:43:38 PM EDT
[#22]
RO/RO



Roll Over ship






12/16/2012 12:45:41 PM EDT
[#23]
GSV: General Systems Vehicle
12/16/2012 12:49:03 PM EDT
[#24]
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Here's a comprehensive list -



What's CVN?  

It doesn't appear to be listed.  Does that mean it's something that I'm misremembering?


CVN is the type of ship.  All of our CVNs are USS (insert ship name here).

12/16/2012 12:51:19 PM EDT
[#25]


That reminds me.  Apparently there is a cruise ship listing to starboard, resting on the bottom and it's only partially submerged.

They are gonna show what is apparently a recovery effort on 60 Minutes.  Saw the commercial for it during football.

12/16/2012 12:53:25 PM EDT
[#26]
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Here's a comprehensive list -



What's CVN?  

It doesn't appear to be listed.  Does that mean it's something that I'm misremembering?

Aircraft carrier, nuclear.



Yes. It derives from Cruiser aViation Nuclear

A was already taken for Armored.
V was for heavier-than-air. They still used lighter than air aircraft when the first carriers were built. Same reason Navy and Marine squadrons begin with V.



V indicates fixed wing.

i.e. an LHA is a Landing ship, [b]Helicopter[/] Assault

12/16/2012 12:53:28 PM EDT
[#27]
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Yes. It derives from Cruiser aViation Nuclear

A was already taken for Armored.[/div]V was for heavier-than-air. They still used lighter than air aircraft when the first carriers were built. Same reason Navy and Marine squadrons begin with V.



I think this is an interesting etymological discussion. Mainly because if V stands for "heavier than air" it is derived from either the French or Spanish verb "voler" meaning "to fly."

I'm inclined to believe that the "V for voler" was probably the first definition with the "V for aViation" coming later to Americanize it.
12/16/2012 12:53:28 PM EDT
[#28]
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That reminds me.  Apparently there is a cruise ship listing to starboard, resting on the bottom and it's only partially submerged.

They are gonna show what is apparently a recovery effort on 60 Minutes.  Saw the commercial for it during football.



costa concordia, over in italy
12/16/2012 12:54:27 PM EDT
[#29]


Roll On/Roll Off - it's designed to drive cargo carriers directly on and then off the ship.
12/16/2012 12:58:15 PM EDT
[#30]
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M/V merchant vessel


wrong, common mistonception, MV and SS indicate the powerplant type
MV= motor vessel
SS = steamship
S/V = sailing vessel sometimes you'll also see SSV for sailing school vessel or STV for sail training vessel
F/V fishing vessel
GTV = gas turbine vessel, so far as I know there are less than 10 of these operating, well at least on the merchant marine side of things.

military sealift command ships carry a USNS (US naval ship) designation and research vessels carry a R/V designation (usually)



USNS stands for US Naval Ship. They have civilian crews, but are commanded by a Naval officer. These ships wear the standard navy haze grey paint scheme, but have a blue & gold band around the stack.

On hospital ships, the ship's company are civilians, but the medical staff are all US Navy.

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not anymore they aren't[/quote]

SS is a submarine (diesel electric)
SSK is a small diesel electric submarine
SSN is a nuclear submarine (generally an attack boat)
SSGN is a nuclear powered submarine armed with guided missiles (anti-ship or anti-surface/shore)
SSBN is a nuclear submarine armed with ballistic missiles

12/16/2012 12:59:14 PM EDT
[#31]


Fixed
12/16/2012 12:59:42 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
HMS....Her Majesties Ship

USS....United States Ship?

SSN....?

Right/wrong? Any others?


You're confusing names with their designation.

CVN- Nuclear Carrier, DDG- Guided Missile Destroyer, FFG- Guided Missile Frigate, etc.... THose are their designations, or what type of ship they are.

HMS, USS, etc... are country designations and precede the name of the vessel at hand. USS Taylor FFG-50 is a United States Ship that is a Guided Missile Frigate named Taylor.

12/16/2012 1:00:17 PM EDT
[#33]
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M/V merchant vessel


wrong, common mistonception, MV and SS indicate the powerplant type
MV= motor vessel
SS = steamship
S/V = sailing vessel sometimes you'll also see SSV for sailing school vessel or STV for sail training vessel
F/V fishing vessel
GTV = gas turbine vessel, so far as I know there are less than 10 of these operating, well at least on the merchant marine side of things.

military sealift command ships carry a USNS (US naval ship) designation and research vessels carry a R/V designation (usually)



USNS stands for US Naval Ship. They have civilian crews, but are commanded by a Naval officer. These ships wear the standard navy haze grey paint scheme, but have a blue & gold band around the stack.

On hospital ships, the ship's company are civilians, but the medical staff are all US Navy.



not anymore they aren't[/quote]

SS is a submarine (diesel electric)
SSK is a small diesel electric submarine
SSN is a nuclear submarine (generally an attack boat)
SSGN is a nuclear powered submarine armed with guided missiles (anti-ship or anti-surface/shore)
SSBN is a nuclear submarine armed with ballistic missiles

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guess there's some cross over with designations
12/16/2012 1:03:19 PM EDT
[#34]
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An SSN is a USS first.  Eg. USS Los Angeles.  I believe SSN is Ship Submersible Nuclear.


The double letters aren't an acronym.

SS = Submarine
DD = Destroyer
BB = Battle Ship
FF = Frigate
CC = Cruiser (we dropped one of the Cs when we added guided missiles to them to make CGs, but curiously not the Destroyers which are DDGs)

So SSN - is simply, Submarine, Nuclear powered.
12/16/2012 1:07:07 PM EDT
[#35]
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guess there's some cross over with designations


Probably between civilian and military.
Just like police and military using different phonetic alphabets.

Not a lot of civilian submarines.
12/16/2012 1:16:23 PM EDT
[#36]
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What's CVN?  

It doesn't appear to be listed.  Does that mean it's something that I'm misremembering?

Aircraft carrier, nuclear.



Yes. It derives from Cruiser aViation Nuclear

A was already taken for Armored.
V was for heavier-than-air. They still used lighter than air aircraft when the first carriers were built. Same reason Navy and Marine squadrons begin with V.



V indicates fixed wing.

i.e. an LHA is a Landing ship, [b]Helicopter[/] Assault


Now it does.

www.history.navy.mil/download/dictnry/chapter1.pdf
In General Order 541, issued in 1920, two overall
types of aircraft were identified and assigned permanent
letters which have remained in effect since 1920.
Lighter-than-air types were identified by the letter Z
and heavier-than-air types were assigned the letter V.
Within these two categories, various class letters were
assigned to further differentiate the aircraft’s operation
or construction.


On 11 March 1946, a major revision was issued to the
Class Designation of Naval Aircraft. Aviation Circular
Letter Number 43–46 divided naval aircraft into four
types and assigned a letter designation. They were:
V for heavier-than-air (fixed wing)
K for pilotless aircraft
H for heavier-than-air (rotary wing)
Z for lighter-than-air
12/16/2012 1:55:24 PM EDT
[#37]
DTF
12/16/2012 2:01:26 PM EDT
[#38]
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Hospital ships and other US government auxiliary ships are USNS.


USNS stands for US Naval Ship. They have civilian crews, but are commanded by a Naval officer. These ships wear the standard navy haze grey paint scheme, but have a blue & gold band around the stack.

On hospital ships, the ship's company are civilians, but the medical staff are all US Navy.



You sure about that?

USNS Comfort

12/16/2012 2:15:14 PM EDT
[#39]



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AMB:  Attsa Ma Boateh





The Italian Navy!  

 
12/16/2012 2:31:01 PM EDT
[#40]
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Hospital ships and other US government auxiliary ships are USNS.


USNS stands for US Naval Ship. They have civilian crews, but are commanded by a Naval officer. These ships wear the standard navy haze grey paint scheme, but have a blue & gold band around the stack.

On hospital ships, the ship's company are civilians, but the medical staff are all US Navy.



unless things have changed more than i would figure, the entire bridge crew are naval perssonel. They would probably have several MAA's onboard for security purposes also. Served with a shipmate stationed in Guam on a medical ship as a signalman (SM) transferred to DDG-73 while I was there.
12/16/2012 2:37:11 PM EDT
[#41]
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That reminds me.  Apparently there is a cruise ship listing to starboard, resting on the bottom and it's only partially submerged.

They are gonna show what is apparently a recovery effort on 60 Minutes.  Saw the commercial for it during football.



costa concordia, over in italy


That's it.
12/16/2012 2:43:10 PM EDT
[#42]
DOS as in the USS Hancock DOS-19. BTW: DOS stands for Decked Over Shitter
12/16/2012 2:48:34 PM EDT
[#43]
KMS - Kreigsmarine Schiff (War Navy Ship)
RM - Regia Marina (Royal Navy)
LS - Luft Schiff (airship)
IJN - Imperial Japanese Navy

For the USN

AP - transport
APD - fast transport
AO - auxiliary, oiler
AE - auxiliary, ammunition
AM - auxiliary, mine layer

RN - Royal Navy
RNR - Royal Navy Reserve
RNV - Royal Navy Volunteer
RNVR - Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve
RCN - Royal Canadian Navy
RCNVR - Royal Canadian Navy Volunteer Reserve
12/16/2012 2:50:44 PM EDT
[#44]
HMS - Swedish Naval Ship (Hans Majestäts Skepp)
12/16/2012 3:04:21 PM EDT
[#45]
Hm, as I recall it we designated all those things floating on the surface ... "Target"

12/16/2012 4:31:46 PM EDT
[#46]



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That reminds me.  Apparently there is a cruise ship listing to starboard, resting on the bottom and it's only partially submerged.



They are gonna show what is apparently a recovery effort on 60 Minutes.  Saw the commercial for it during football.







costa concordia, over in italy




That's it.


Couger Ace didn't hit anything. It was conducting a ballast water exchange in open water and filled the wrong ballast tanks, causing her to heal over.

 



Titan salvaged her, it is a pretty bad ass story. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/16-03/ff_seacowboys?currentPage=all




Ship was fine but all its cargo (bunch of Mazdas) was scrapped.
12/16/2012 4:34:03 PM EDT
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That reminds me.  Apparently there is a cruise ship listing to starboard, resting on the bottom and it's only partially submerged.

They are gonna show what is apparently a recovery effort on 60 Minutes.  Saw the commercial for it during football.



costa concordia, over in italy


That's it.

Couger Ace didn't hit anything. It was conducting a ballast water exchange in open water and filled the wrong ballast tanks, causing her to heal over.  

Titan salvaged her, it is a pretty bad ass story. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/16-03/ff_seacowboys?currentPage=all

Ship was fine but all its cargo (bunch of Mazdas) was scrapped.


The report on the recovery efforts is fascinating.
12/16/2012 4:57:57 PM EDT
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12/16/2012 5:01:32 PM EDT
[#49]
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Hospital ships and other US government auxiliary ships are USNS.


USNS stands for US Naval Ship. They have civilian crews, but are commanded by a Naval officer. These ships wear the standard navy haze grey paint scheme, but have a blue & gold band around the stack.

On hospital ships, the ship's company are civilians, but the medical staff are all US Navy.



unless things have changed more than i would figure, the entire bridge crew are naval perssonel. They would probably have several MAA's onboard for security purposes also. Served with a shipmate stationed in Guam on a medical ship as a signalman (SM) transferred to DDG-73 while I was there.


they have, on the deck side it's almost completely civilian mariners, captain right on down, only navy personel left on most MSC ships are radio guys and security personel. the TAO's were the last to have a naval officer as captain. so far as I know then engine department is now 100% civilian mariners
12/16/2012 5:40:00 PM EDT
[#50]
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V indicates fixed wing.



Now it does.

www.history.navy.mil/download/dictnry/chapter1.pdf
In General Order 541, issued in 1920, two overall
types of aircraft were identified and assigned permanent
letters which have remained in effect since 1920.
Lighter-than-air types were identified by the letter Z
and heavier-than-air types were assigned the letter V.
Within these two categories, various class letters were
assigned to further differentiate the aircraft’s operation
or construction.


On 11 March 1946, a major revision was issued to the
Class Designation of Naval Aircraft. Aviation Circular
Letter Number 43–46 divided naval aircraft into four
types and assigned a letter designation. They were:
V for heavier-than-air (fixed wing)
K for pilotless aircraft
H for heavier-than-air (rotary wing)
Z for lighter-than-air


Not a lot of aircraft carriers, much less nuclear powered ones,in 1920.  
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