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11/4/2012 2:42:16 PM EDT
Got a couple of IM's from TT's thread about wanting to see the results of our first try at an M16 so here it is. This is nothing you can't find all over the internet in greater detail and I'm not going to get specific, not that it's real technical.

We were pretty happy with the results. Ran like a top in .223 with 11.5" barrel and 300blk with 9" barrel both suppressed and unsuppressed with a few hundred rounds through it with no malfunctions.

Made it out of a DSA stripped lower.

Drilling the sear hole



Milled and drilled



Ready to go



Blastin
11/4/2012 2:44:20 PM EDT
[#1]
Looks good.
11/4/2012 2:48:07 PM EDT
[#2]
(Napolean Dynamite) Lucckkkkkyyyyyyyyy (Napolean Dynamite)

- Clint
11/4/2012 2:48:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Dumb but hows that done? Dealer sample?
11/4/2012 2:49:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Nice dude.  Nice.

If I could send $200 and have that done on my lower....
11/4/2012 2:50:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Dumb but hows that done? Dealer sample?



Yeah, it's a post sample.

11/4/2012 2:51:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Nice dude.  Nice.

If I could send $200 and have that done on my lower....


Seriously....

FUCK THE NFA....AND THE GCA/HA/Democrats/etc.
11/4/2012 2:53:01 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Nice dude.  Nice.



If I could send $200 and have that done on my lower....




Seriously....



FUCK THE NFA
Fuck the Hughes Amendment, NFA, and shit.





 
11/4/2012 2:53:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Nice dude.  Nice.

If I could send $200 and have that done on my lower....


Seriously....

FUCK THE NFA


More like fuck 922o
11/4/2012 2:56:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Nice dude.  Nice.

If I could send $200 and have that done on my lower....


Seriously....

FUCK THE NFA
Fuck the Hughes Amendment, NFA, and shit.

 


Yeah....derp on my part.

Fuck the NFA/GCA/HA/BHO.... Better?
11/4/2012 2:58:28 PM EDT
[#10]


I wonder why he lower have the auto roll marks but the lower isn't compatible with the auto sear (looks like you have to mill out the shelf for the sear to fit)
11/4/2012 2:58:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Nice dude.  Nice.

If I could send $200 and have that done on my lower....


Seriously....

FUCK THE NFA


You mean the Hughes Amendment? Because that's what's keeping you from doing it yourself.


Quoted:


I wonder why he lower have the auto roll marks but the lower isn't compatible with the auto sear (looks like you have to mill out the shelf for the sear to fit)


Because there are rDIAS's out there that you don't need to mill the lower to use.
11/4/2012 2:59:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Awesome.

What bullet weight in those?
11/4/2012 3:00:04 PM EDT
[#13]
The other hole.








11/4/2012 3:01:56 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:


I wonder why he lower have the auto roll marks but the lower isn't compatible with the auto sear (looks like you have to mill out the shelf for the sear to fit)



Because auto roll marks sells lowers, just like how LE roll marks increases the selling price of guns that are otherwise the same. There's only one current production lower that I can think of that doesn't require milling to the shelf or the sidewall of the lower.

11/4/2012 3:02:04 PM EDT
[#15]
Not even realizing I a connection I saw this video posted on teh FB. Looks like a fun!

Oh, and eff the Hughes Amendment!
11/4/2012 3:03:08 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
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Dumb but hows that done? Dealer sample?



Yeah, it's a post sample.


Fink.

out of

11/4/2012 3:04:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Please excuse my ignorance of NFA. When a person like yourself can turn what is a regular AR15 lower into an M16 lower, this is because you are a 07 FFL or SOT ? I have tried to understand why joe average cannot turn his/her AR into an M16.
11/4/2012 3:04:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Ok, what is a "post sample"?
11/4/2012 3:05:49 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Ok, what is a "post sample"?


A post-1986 machinegun.

Manufacturers can make them for sale to LE/government, for research and development, for demonstrations, etc.
11/4/2012 3:06:12 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Awesome.

What bullet weight in those?



Assorted.

Honestly, we had a bag of 5.56 that had all kinds of different stuff in it. 50gr, 55gr, 62gr all different manufacturers, etc. We weren't being picky.

The 300blk was the same. I think Garrett ran about 10 different hand loads through it to see which ones cycle and which ones were subsonic, etc. Guy that loads them cronos out of a 16" unsuppressed so we wanted to make sure that subs stayed sub and some rounds that wouldn't cycle in his rifle would cycle fine through our SBR uppers with suppressors. Think the 300 went from 110gr up to 168 with everything in between.

11/4/2012 3:07:50 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


Ok, what is a "post sample"?


Post '86 machine gun for dealer use only, they have to have a SOT.



 
11/4/2012 3:08:25 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


Please excuse my ignorance of NFA. When a person like yourself can turn what is a regular AR15 lower into an M16 lower, this is because you are a 07 FFL or SOT ? I have tried to understand why joe average cannot turn his/her AR into an M16.



Because there is a law that says you can't.



 
11/4/2012 3:10:11 PM EDT
[#23]
ive done that too
11/4/2012 3:11:19 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Please excuse my ignorance of NFA. When a person like yourself can turn what is a regular AR15 lower into an M16 lower, this is because you are a 07 FFL or SOT ? I have tried to understand why joe average cannot turn his/her AR into an M16.

Because there is a law that says you can't.
 


Because of a knee-jerk reaction to mob violence in 1934, and because of some legislative asshattery in 1986 by a certain criminal named Charlie Rangle, may the fuck be eternally upon him.
11/4/2012 3:20:57 PM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:

Please excuse my ignorance of NFA. When a person like yourself can turn what is a regular AR15 lower into an M16 lower, this is because you are a 07 FFL or SOT ? I have tried to understand why joe average cannot turn his/her AR into an M16.



Because there is a law that says you can't.

 




Because of a knee-jerk reaction to mob violence in 1934, and because of some legislative asshattery in 1986 by a certain criminal named Charlie Rangle, may the fuck be eternally upon him.


I never knew Rangle was the asshat responsible for the Hughes Amendment.





 
11/4/2012 3:28:14 PM EDT
[#26]
Am I going to get a .gov cookie for looking at this thread?
11/4/2012 3:33:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Remember folks the reason you can't do this or pay to have this done on property you own is because a Democrat voted and said you can't.  I do hope to watch the agency enforcing this law bleed out via budget cuts and see this law repealed.

11/4/2012 3:35:26 PM EDT
[#28]
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Am I going to get a .gov cookie for looking at this thread?



You're from NJ, so probably. Sorry.

11/4/2012 7:52:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Am I going to get a .gov cookie for looking at this thread?



You're from NJ, so probably. Sorry.



11/4/2012 8:26:02 PM EDT
[#30]
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I wonder why he lower have the auto roll marks but the lower isn't compatible with the auto sear (looks like you have to mill out the shelf for the sear to fit)



Because auto roll marks sells lowers, just like how LE roll marks increases the selling price of guns that are otherwise the same. There's only one current production lower that I can think of that doesn't require milling to the shelf or the sidewall of the lower.



Which current production lower only needs a hole drilled?

11/5/2012 2:08:51 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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I wonder why he lower have the auto roll marks but the lower isn't compatible with the auto sear (looks like you have to mill out the shelf for the sear to fit)



Because auto roll marks sells lowers, just like how LE roll marks increases the selling price of guns that are otherwise the same. There's only one current production lower that I can think of that doesn't require milling to the shelf or the sidewall of the lower.



Which current production lower only needs a hole drilled?




Plum Crazy/NFA

11/5/2012 3:59:14 AM EDT
[#32]
Stag lowers are full-width as well....at least my brother's is.
11/5/2012 4:02:15 AM EDT
[#33]
Thats louder than the tv guns with "silencers".
11/5/2012 4:13:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Stag lowers are full-width as well....at least my brother's is.



None of the Stag lowers we have are straight walled.

11/5/2012 4:22:57 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Remember folks the reason you can't do this or pay to have this done on property you own is because a Democrat voted and said you can't.  I do hope to watch the agency enforcing this law bleed out via budget cuts and see this law repealed.



Don't forget the Republican who signed it into law.
11/5/2012 4:25:40 AM EDT
[#36]





Quoted:



Ok, what is a "post sample"?



... 43584 posts on ARFCOM, you can't be serious





 





 
11/5/2012 4:30:48 AM EDT
[#37]
Nice!
11/5/2012 4:38:14 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Stag lowers are full-width as well....at least my brother's is.



None of the Stag lowers we have are straight walled.



Weird.  His has to be an oddball then - 100% straight.  Matches up with a DIAS perfectly.
11/5/2012 4:39:33 AM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Remember folks the reason you can't do this or pay to have this done on property you own is because a Democrat voted and said you can't.  I do hope to watch the agency enforcing this law bleed out via budget cuts and see this law repealed.







Don't forget the Republican who signed it into law.


This is retarded. The NRA said sign it, and for good reason. Reagan signed it.





If it weren't for that law you'd have to buy ammo and reloading components through an FFL.



 
11/5/2012 4:42:22 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember folks the reason you can't do this or pay to have this done on property you own is because a Democrat voted and said you can't.  I do hope to watch the agency enforcing this law bleed out via budget cuts and see this law repealed.



Don't forget the Republican who signed it into law.

This is retarded. The NRA said sign it, and for good reason. Reagan signed it.


If it weren't for that law you'd have to buy ammo and reloading components through an FFL.
 

I'm pretty sure that law would had changed under economic and popular pressure.

Not big into trading rights for convenience.
11/5/2012 4:47:03 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember folks the reason you can't do this or pay to have this done on property you own is because a Democrat voted and said you can't.  I do hope to watch the agency enforcing this law bleed out via budget cuts and see this law repealed.



Don't forget the Republican who signed it into law.

This is retarded. The NRA said sign it, and for good reason. Reagan signed it.


If it weren't for that law you'd have to buy ammo and reloading components through an FFL.
 


If the NRA said sign it, then why should we remember the Democrats who wrote it?
11/5/2012 4:48:20 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember folks the reason you can't do this or pay to have this done on property you own is because a Democrat voted and said you can't.  I do hope to watch the agency enforcing this law bleed out via budget cuts and see this law repealed.



Don't forget the Republican who signed it into law.

This is retarded. The NRA said sign it, and for good reason. Reagan signed it.


If it weren't for that law you'd have to buy ammo and reloading components through an FFL.
 

I'm pretty sure that law would had changed under economic and popular pressure.

Not big into trading rights for convenience.


This.
11/5/2012 4:53:13 AM EDT
[#43]
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Quoted:
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Stag lowers are full-width as well....at least my brother's is.



None of the Stag lowers we have are straight walled.



Weird.  His has to be an oddball then - 100% straight.  Matches up with a DIAS perfectly.



If a DIAS fits then it's not straight walled. They are designed to fit in the thicker rear portion of an AR15 receiver. If you put a DIAS in an M16 receiver it would move around from side to side. A standard sear is wider and won't fit in any AR15 receivers that I know of other than the two I already mentioned.

11/5/2012 5:05:35 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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I wonder why he lower have the auto roll marks but the lower isn't compatible with the auto sear (looks like you have to mill out the shelf for the sear to fit)



Because auto roll marks sells lowers, just like how LE roll marks increases the selling price of guns that are otherwise the same. There's only one current production lower that I can think of that doesn't require milling to the shelf or the sidewall of the lower.



Which current production lower only needs a hole drilled?




Plum Crazy/NFA



Butter knife tested , tile approved?

11/5/2012 5:15:29 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Nice dude.  Nice.

If I could send $200 and have that done on my lower....


Seriously....

FUCK THE NFA....AND THE GCA/HA/Democrats/etc.


Fuck them all to hell

11/5/2012 5:23:41 AM EDT
[#46]




Quoted:



Weird. His has to be an oddball then - 100% straight. Matches up with a DIAS perfectly.




dias are skinny on one side for this reason, thats why it fits
11/5/2012 5:26:05 AM EDT
[#47]
Jeez I want a MG.
11/5/2012 5:34:28 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
ive done that too


Rub our noses in the fact that your country is freer than the "Land of the Free". The Phillipenes is the same way Auto loaders require a license but no one cares about how many times if fires per trigger pull.  


11/5/2012 5:44:43 AM EDT
[#49]
Who makes that drilling fixture or is it a home brew?
11/5/2012 5:51:46 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Who makes that drilling fixture or is it a home brew?



That one was home made but there are a couple of companies out there that make them.

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