Posted: 10/24/2012 9:54:09 PM EDT
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Because this topic was closed by request of the OP of the original thread (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1380072_DRUGS.html&page=7) and not a COC violation, I think it would only be fair to allow those that didn't get a chance at rebuttal and those interested in a fair and balanced discussion to discuss this topic further in this thread.
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And all I see is little dots
Some are smeared and some are spots Feels like a murder but that's alright Somebody said there's too much light Pull down the shade and it's alright It'll be over in a minute or two I'm charged up...Don't put me down Don't feel like talking...Don't mess around I feel mean...I feel O.K. I'm charged up...Electricity The boys are making a big mess This makes the girls all start to laugh I don't know what they're talking about The boys are worried, the girls are shocked They pick the sound and let it drop Nobody know what they're talking about I'm charged up...I'm kinda wooden I'm barely moving...I study motion I study myself...I fooled myself I'm charged up...It's pretty intense. I'm charged up...Don't put me down Don't feel like talking...Don't mess around I feel mean...I feel O.K. I'm charged up...Electricity |
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And all I see is little dots Some are smeared and some are spots Feels like a murder but that's alright Somebody said there's too much light Pull down the shade and it's alright It'll be over in a minute or two I'm charged up...Don't put me down Don't feel like talking...Don't mess around I feel mean...I feel O.K. I'm charged up...Electricity The boys are making a big mess This makes the girls all start to laugh I don't know what they're talking about The boys are worried, the girls are shocked They pick the sound and let it drop Nobody know what they're talking about I'm charged up...I'm kinda wooden I'm barely moving...I study motion I study myself...I fooled myself I'm charged up...It's pretty intense. I'm charged up...Don't put me down Don't feel like talking...Don't mess around I feel mean...I feel O.K. I'm charged up...Electricity didnt read lol |
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Drugs are my #1 priority! http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/Gary_Johnson.jpg I don't have a problem with marijuana being legal but other drugs like meth I do have a problem with. If pot were legal I might actually get some sleep at night.... but meth is fucking gross, I knew some people who got real into it and they turned into huge assholes, and it fucks up your teeth. |
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Drugs are my #1 priority! http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/Gary_Johnson.jpg I don't have a problem with marijuana being legal but other drugs like meth I do have a problem with. If pot were legal I might actually get some sleep at night.... but meth is fucking gross, I knew some people who got real into it and they turned into huge assholes, and it fucks up your teeth. You need the blue, its all about purity! 
Hoping someone gets the reference before everyone goes all weird on me. War on Drugs is horrible. |
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Drugs are my #1 priority! http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/Gary_Johnson.jpg I don't have a problem with marijuana being legal but other drugs like meth I do have a problem with. If pot were legal I might actually get some sleep at night.... but meth is fucking gross, I knew some people who got real into it and they turned into huge assholes, and it fucks up your teeth. The reason I would like pot to be legal is to help those who are suffering from a terminal illness which I might like to partake in some day. I haven't heard one positive story from someone using meth which is highly addictive and has a lot of negative effects on your body. |
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Drugs are my #1 priority! http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/Gary_Johnson.jpg I don't have a problem with marijuana being legal but other drugs like meth I do have a problem with. If pot were legal I might actually get some sleep at night.... but meth is fucking gross, I knew some people who got real into it and they turned into huge assholes, and it fucks up your teeth. You need the blue, its all about purity!
Hoping someone gets the reference before everyone goes all weird on me. War on Drugs is horrible. Heisenburg approves of your blue meth. 
Edit: Where do we draw the line on the war on drugs? I'm in favor of legalizing pot due to its medicinal purposes and it being natural but I do have a problem with more hard core and main stream drugs such as meth, cocaine and heroine that royally fuck with your life and your health. |
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Fuck synthetics... go for the shit you can grow. Pretty much this. You can make a case for Pot and mushrooms being medicinal/herbal, coke and meth, not so much... Coke is purified. Not synthetic. Also, I would pay a pretty penny to try a original formula coke. 
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Fuck synthetics... go for the shit you can grow. Pretty much this. You can make a case for Pot and mushrooms being medicinal/herbal, coke and meth, not so much... Coke is purified. Not synthetic. Also, I would pay a pretty penny to try a original formula coke.
Have a coke and a smile 
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Fuck synthetics... go for the shit you can grow. Pretty much this. You can make a case for Pot and mushrooms being medicinal/herbal, coke and meth, not so much... Coke is purified. Not synthetic. Also, I would pay a pretty penny to try a original formula coke.
Have a coke and a smile The only thing coke hurts is your sinus cavity and your wallet
meth is still gross ETA: Purified and synthetic are two different things, and no, coke is not "purified", your facts are screwed up. It's still less harmful then meth, but there is nothing pure about it. |
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this is true. riddlen/aderol are soft forms of meth. No. No. No. You want biker crank. Trade them some of your synthetic mescaline for a gram or six. And you want to hoot it off the toilet tank lid in some filthy gas station on the Lower East Side before you go to the show. It's not about your fucking grades, it's about having a good time. You can snort the Bromo at the same time. Jesus fuck, that shit buuuuurrrns! |
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this is true. riddlen/aderol are soft forms of meth. No. No. No. You want biker crank. Trade them some of your synthetic mescaline for a gram or six. And you want to hoot it off the toilet tank lid in some filthy gas station on the Lower East Side before you go to the show. It's not about your fucking grades, it's about having a good time. You can snort the Bromo at the same time. Jesus fuck, that shit buuuuurrrns! Somebody been reading Charlie Huston? 
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Decriminalize it all BUT allow no public funds for treatment related to drug abuse. For me it has nothing to do with medicinal use, it's financial and violence. Legalize it all and take all that WOD money and spend it on public education and treatment for 10 years, then stop spending our tax money on any of it. I agree with your second line entirely, but I would add that legalizing it would also be a public health benefit. Public drunkeness, and alcohol related issues were at an all time high during the first prohibition. |
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Drugs are my #1 priority! http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/Gary_Johnson.jpg I don't have a problem with marijuana being legal but other drugs like meth I do have a problem with. You probably should have watched the 3rd party debate the other night for you may have learned something. Besides the fact that our 2 party system is a joke but that the "war on drugs" is a waste of $$ that will never be "won", ever for it's impossible. Prohibition has never worked and will never work. |
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Too much infrastructure in the war on drugs to turn around. Think about how many people would be freed from jail....how many law enforcement people wouldn't have anything to do. Judges, courts. We'd save too much money The guy that murdered my brother was convicted for armed robbery but was released early due to over crowding caused by mandatory sentencing of drug offenders so that dog don't hunt for me and govt ain't a jobs program. If they can't find a use for us cops we should have to find another job. The fact is that where I work we have more than enough calls for service without any drug enforcement, which fankly ties us up and inhibits us handling calls for service. |
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I'm in because I want to read some responses.
I'm not against weed. I don't use it but it does have advantages at certain times. No to pills and powders. No to shrooms and the like. The poem from the OP gave me the perspective as if I was the drug. It's what I do to people. I am here for the taking if you want but this is what I will do to you. I think it was a good way of putting the addiction. I have been dealing with someone very close to me that has the addiction. The poem nails it on the head IMO. |
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if it's found in nature? yes period. includes pot, mushrooms, mescaline.
synthesized but from a plant - i.e. coke, extacy, etc - illegal but lower schedule. maintain scheduling - heroin, meth, pcp, etc. i think the biggest problem is diagnosing kids with ADD/ADHD and prescribing amphetamines to "treat" them. we're slowly turning future generations into loony tweakers all because they can't drop their iphones to take notes in class. then, they go out murdering their families because "they just wanted to know what it feels like". bullshit. |
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I'm in because I want to read some responses. I'm not against weed. I don't use it but it does have advantages at certain times. No to pills and powders. No to shrooms and the like. The poem from the OP gave me the perspective as if I was the drug. It's what I do to people. I am here for the taking if you want but this is what I will do to you. I think it was a good way of putting the addiction. I have been dealing with someone very close to me that has the addiction. The poem nails it on the head IMO. no to shrooms? I could walk right out back and get some, but I might piss off the bull
Other than the stupid shit some people would do on them, I think they're about as harmless as pot. |
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I'm in because I want to read some responses. I'm not against weed. I don't use it but it does have advantages at certain times. No to pills and powders. No to shrooms and the like. The poem from the OP gave me the perspective as if I was the drug. It's what I do to people. I am here for the taking if you want but this is what I will do to you. I I think it was a good way of putting the addiction. I have been dealing with someone very close to me that has the addiction. The poem nails it on the head IMO. no to shrooms? I could walk right out back and get some, but I might piss off the bull
Other than the stupid shit some people would do on them, I think they're about as harmless as pot. That's my thing with it. We all know most people are way to stupid to handle the effects of shrooms. And I also believe it will lead to more Hallucinogens than pot ever will. But at the same time pot is the gate way drug. |
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While I’m not any kind of fan of the WOD I still feel that smoking dope (actually smoking anything) shortens life, using coke debases life and using meth utterly destroys life. So what’s the answer? I wish I knew what the balance was; do we legalize dope and still make the harder drugs illegal? I don’t want to see meth sold in 7-11s like cigarettes; does anyone want to see the really hard stuff sold over the counter? |
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While I’m not any kind of fan of the WOD I still feel that smoking dope (actually smoking anything) shortens life, using coke debases life and using meth utterly destroys life. So what’s the answer? I wish I knew what the balance was; do we legalize dope and still make the harder drugs illegal? I don’t want to see meth sold in 7-11s like cigarettes; does anyone want to see the really hard stuff sold over the counter? Decriminalize it. Not legalize. All of it. If cooking meth is as dangerous as bomb making, bust 'em for that. If someone drives stoned, is disorderly, committing a crime, etc, bust 'em for that. Public interactions vs private. "I think eating Big Macs every day is wrong. I feel drinking Jack every day is bad for you. I believe that hard drugs can't be taken in moderation. I want people to realize what they are doing to their bodies." It is all about control of another. The WOD is FAR more invasive than Prohibition ever was. Does anyone here want to step forward in favor of Prohibition? Yet many will come forward and attempt to rationalize the WOD. WTF? 
Richmond P. Hobson, a Representative from Alabama, voiced his support for a prohibition amendment on the floor of the House of Representatives on December 22, 1914. ...Neither can they take refuge about any assumed question of individual liberty. We do not say that a man shall not drink. We ask for no sumptuary action. We do not say that a man shall not have or make liquor in his own home for his own use. Nothing of that sort is involved in this resolution. We only touch the sale. A man may feel he has a right to drink, but he certainly has no inherent right to sell liquor. A man's liberties are absolutely secure in this resolution. The liberties and sanctity of the home are protected. The liberties of the community are secure, the liberties of the county are secure, and the liberties of the State are secure. Liquor Degenerates the Character The first finding of science that alcohol is a protoplasmic poison and the second finding that it is an insidious, habit-forming drug, though of great importance, are as unimportant when compared with the third finding, that alcohol degenerates the character of men and tears down their spiritual nature. Like the other members of the group of oxide derivatives of hydrocarbons, alcohol is not only a general poison, but it has a chemical affinity or deadly appetite for certain particular tissues. Strychnine tears down the spinal cord. Alcohol tears down the top part of the brain in a man, attacks certain tissues in an animal, certain cells in a flower. It has been established that whatever the line of a creature's evolution alcohol will attack that line. Every type and every species is evolving in building from generation to generation along some particular line. Man is evolving in the top part of the brain, the seat of the will power, the seat of the moral senses, and of the spiritual nature, the recognition of right and wrong, the consciousness of God and of duty and of brotherly love and of self-sacrifice. Reverses the Life Principle of the Universe All life in the universe is founded upon the principle of evolution. Alcohol directly reverses that principle. Man has risen from the savage up through successive steps to the level of the semi-savage, the semi-civilized, and the highly civilized. Liquor and the Red Man Liquor promptly degenerates the red man, throws him back into savagery. It will promptly put a tribe on the war path. Liquor and the Black Man Liquor will actually make a brute out of a negro, causing him to commit unnatural crimes. Liquor and the White Man The effect is the same on the white man, though the white man being further evolved it takes longer time to reduce him to the same level. Starting young, however, it does not take a very long time to speedily cause a man in the forefront of civilization to pass through the successive stages and become semi-civilized, semi-savage, savage, and, at last, below the brute. The Great Tragedy The spiritual nature of man gives dignity to his life above the life of the brute. It is this spiritual nature of man that makes him in the image of his Maker, so that the Bible referred to man as being a little lower than the angels. It is a tragedy to blight the physical life. No measure can be made of blighting the spiritual life. The Blight Degeneracy Nature does not tolerate reversing its evolutionary principle, and proceeds automatically to exterminate any creature, any animal, any race, any species that degenerates. Nature adopts two methods of extermination-one to shorten the life, the other to blight the offspring. The Verdict Science has thus demonstrated that alcohol is a protoplasmic poison, poisoning all living things; that alcohol is a habit-forming drug that shackles millions of our citizens and maintains slavery in our midst; that it lowers in a fearful way the standard of efficiency of the Nation, reducing enormously the national wealth, entailing startling burdens of taxation, encumbering the public with the care of crime, pauperism, and insanity; that it corrupts politics and public servants, corrupts the Government, corrupts the public morals, lowers terrifically the average standard of character of the citizenship, and undermines the liberties and institutions of the Nation; that it undermines and blights the home and the family, checks education, attacks the young when they are entitled to protection, undermines the public health, slaughtering, killing, and wounding our citizens many fold times more than war, pestilence, and famine combined; that it blights the progeny of the Nation, flooding the land with a horde of degenerates; that it strikes deadly blows at the life of the Nation itself and at the very life of the race, reversing the great evolutionary principles of nature and the purposes of the Almighty. There can be but one verdict, and that is this great destroyer must be destroyed. The time is ripe for fulfillment. The present generation, the generation to which we belong, must cut this millstone of degeneracy from the neck of humanity.... The Final Conclusion To cure this organic disease we must have recourse to the organic law. The people themselves must act upon this question. A generation must be prevailed upon to place prohibition in their own constitutional law, and such a generation could be counted upon to keep it in the Constitution during its lifetime. The Liquor Trust of necessity would disintegrate. The youth would grow up sober. The final, scientific conclusion is that we must have constitutional prohibition, prohibiting only the sale, the manufacture for sale, and everything that pertains to the sale, and invoke the power of both Federal and State Governments for enforcement. The resolution is drawn to fill these requirements. 
"Do it for the children" sound familiar? |
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Methamphetamine already is "legal." It's Schedule II. Marijuana is Schedule I, which kind of makes you wonder why. Quoted: Drugs are my #1 priority! http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/Gary_Johnson.jpg I don't have a problem with marijuana being legal but other drugs like meth I do have a problem with. |
