Posted: 10/23/2012 4:28:08 PM EDT
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you know... without the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, Fords, Scotts, Jobs, Trumps, Cubans, Gates, etc. we would be nothing. the fake idea of "building the middle class" is just that. its a fake idea. its a mirage hiding the true idea that should be promoted. we should be making it so people can simply travel through the middle class and work their way up to take down an existing company and replace it with their own. we should promote the survival of the strong and taking out the weak that end up propped up at the top for no good reason. vanderbilt and rockefeller started with nothing and are still considered to be a couple of the richest men who ever lived. they played the business game for what it is, a game. a hostile game in a cyclic economy. they are made out to be evil today when they should be lauded for their accomplishments. they are the greedy instead of the successful. we are stagnant because the dream isnt to be at the top anymore, the top is vilified and made out to be evil. its to settle in the middle, the average, the stagnant. just thought id share my thoughts. |
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Quoted: We are stagnant because companies are over regulated, over taxed, and scared to damn death what the imposter in the white house is going to do next. look at scores in math and science. look at our schools. there is no ambition to succeed the way the giants did anymore. we could have a ron paul economy and it could still fail if people dont shoot for the absolute top. the economy relies more on people to risks than anything else. sure overbearing regulations doesnt help, but saying "you cant do it" is more damaging. |
| Find a niche, make a crapload of money, and someone will be along directly to regulate profits away, if not the person who made the crapload themselves, then people martyring themselves for the handful of people who can blame their troubles on the guy who lawyers are itching to get a piece of. |
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How about we shouldn't try to plan our economy and instead let the consumer decide what's best for him? This works on the supply side as well- employers and potential employees are left alone to negotiate the price point for which they will exchange production and compensation. Rockefellers, Gates' and Carnegies will still occur as exceptionally talented individuals rise to the tops of their industries. |
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Workers having to live in company owned houses in company towns.
Being paid in company scrip, good only in high priced company stores. Standard Oil owning all the gas stations in 100 miles, not selling fuel to any competitors. Then setting super high (for the times) oil and gas prices. Yeah the good old days. You do what your boss tells you to do during the day at work and at home at night too. So you and your coworkers walk off the job, move your families off company property onto Federal forest land. Rockefeller gets so pissed, he gets the Govenor to send the State Militia with machine guns on armored cars to kill you, your wife and kids. Just to teach you a lesson. Real nice guy. Ought to raise a statue to him. |
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Quoted: How about we shouldn't try to plan our economy and instead let the consumer decide what's best for him? This works on the supply side as well- employers and potential employees are left alone to negotiate the price point for which they will exchange production and compensation. Rockefellers, Gates' and Carnegies will still occur as exceptionally talented individuals rise to the tops of their industries. thats my whole point. the govt is basically saying what and how but it continuously backfires. and because of that.. the ambition is squashed and people aim lower because they are continually abused by the govt. |
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Quoted: Quoted: How about we shouldn't try to plan our economy and instead let the consumer decide what's best for him? This works on the supply side as well- employers and potential employees are left alone to negotiate the price point for which they will exchange production and compensation. Rockefellers, Gates' and Carnegies will still occur as exceptionally talented individuals rise to the tops of their industries. thats my whole point. the govt is basically saying what and how but it continuously backfires. and because of that.. the ambition is squashed and people aim lower because they are continually abused by the govt. And it always will, as long as the subject of economics remains a mystery to the masses. An educated person knows when he is being lied to. It isn't all that hard to understand, it certainly isn't the black magic it's commonly made out to be. It's just another science, and a relatively straightforward and simple one to understand. Once a person comprehends the simple science of how finite materials with alternative uses find their way through a free market, and the importance that individual choice plays in an efficient and robust economy, he realizes that the fact this particular science isn't taught in our schools is a serious ailment in society. Start at the beginning. Students receive basic education in biology, physical science, even chemistry, but the one far more important to understanding the world around them is left out, and most people never discover it. Economics needs to be introduced into basic education. If it were, many problems would be alleviated, and the fallacies trumpeted by power hungry assholes would not receive the public support they currently enjoy.
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