[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Star Wars thread (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/23/2012 4:19:19 PM EDT
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As I watch Empire Strikes Back a few questions pop in my head. They are as follows:
Just how many surprises does the falcon have left in her? How does C3PO get up after falling? It's not like he has great articulation... Could / did Ben and Yoda communicate prior to him dying? If luke is such a great pilot, "bullseye womprats", etc, how did he crash on Degobah? I'm sure i'll think of more later... And feel free to post you're own Tom |
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As I watch Empire Strikes Back a few questions pop in my head. They are as follows: Just how many surprises does the falcon have left in her? As many as George Lucas needs to use to sell more shit How does C3PO get up after falling? It's not like he has great articulation... magnets Could / did Ben and Yoda communicate prior to him dying? I'm not sure if he did. If luke is such a great pilot, "bullseye womprats", etc, how did he crash on Degobah? "Alll the scopes are dead I can't see a thing" I'm sure i'll think of more later... And feel free to post you're own Tom Here's my biggest complaint. When sending out the imperial probe droids and seeing what they found on Hoth, Admiral Ozzel tries to dismiss it. Vader then follows by saying "they are there, and I'm sure Skywalker is with them." It is not until they go out of the asteroid belt to gain communication with the emperor that Vader finds out about the son of Skywalker. |
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Quoted: If luke is such a great pilot, "bullseye womprats", etc, how did he crash on Degobah? He didn't crash; Yoda basically used the Force to take control of his X-wing and guided it to the right spot. Otherwise, it could have been as if Luke landed in Alaska and Yoda lived somewhere in Africa.
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Why did the Empire land so far from the base that they had to use walking vehicles to attack Hoth base? And WALKING vehicles... not flying attack vehicles like the rebels had. Not fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed FLYING fighters. No, they used slow-moving, virtually-blind-to-anything-not-directly-in-front-of-them frickin WALKING vehicles whose legs are so frickin huge and powerful they can crush a fighter but can't snap a tiny tow-cable. |
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In regards to Luke "landing" if he's flying a starfighter couldn't he just stop and hover or something? I'm not a pilot but if I was flying into a huge dust cloud or something and all my instruments failed I would pull up I think...
As far as c3po magnets works for me. And about vader saying skywalker is with them and admiral ozzel(?) dismissing it I figure he's a rebel spy. He even took one for the team by coming out of lightspeed too early and alerting them to the presence of the imperial fleet. Maybe vader and the emperor had a chat before he left on the mission? Where would they get the Intel that " the son of skywalker " is with them? Do they fish? "Our first catch of the day"? |
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Why did the Empire land so far from the base that they had to use walking vehicles to attack Hoth base? And WALKING vehicles... not flying attack vehicles like the rebels had. Not fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed FLYING fighters. No, they used slow-moving, virtually-blind-to-anything-not-directly-in-front-of-them frickin WALKING vehicles whose legs are so frickin huge and powerful they can crush a fighter but can't snap a tiny tow-cable. They probably didn't expect the rebels to be so well equipped, so they sent in heavy armor protected by infantry. |
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never understood why yoda went to dagaboh. Why not either just hang out with obi-won or try to rebuild the Jedi order? Because the emperor could sense them unless they kept a low profile. Dagobah's massive life forms masked yoda's presence. The last place they would look for Obi wan was tattooine |
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Quoted: And about vader saying skywalker is with them and admiral ozzel(?) dismissing it I figure he's a rebel spy. He even took one for the team by coming out of lightspeed too early and alerting them to the presence of the imperial fleet.  That's great; never thought of that before. |
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never understood why yoda went to dagaboh. Why not either just hang out with obi-won or try to rebuild the Jedi order? Because the emperor could sense them unless they kept a low profile. Dagobah's massive life forms masked yoda's presence. The last place they would look for Obi wan was tattooine Not to mention the huge dark force sump |
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As I watch Empire Strikes Back a few questions pop in my head. They are as follows: Just how many surprises does the falcon have left in her? Many, many, many. The past owners are numerous. Han does not even know everything in the ship. How does C3PO get up after falling? It's not like he has great articulation... Giant penis. see trading cards... Could / did Ben and Yoda communicate prior to him dying? Secret Jedi stuff. They used Obi's master as a messenger. If luke is such a great pilot, "bullseye womprats", etc, how did he crash on Degobah? Yoda landed him where he wanted him to land. Big planet, small legs. Yoda does not like to travel far when it is soup time. I'm sure i'll think of more later... And feel free to post you're own Tom |
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And the most important questions of them all: What kind of fuck stick comes up with midichlorians? The Midichlorian thing, I think, came about because they wanted to remove the real world religious impression it gave of the light side being God and the dark side being evil. Mostly the God part, really because the dark side is still supposed to be evil. After Star Wars came out originally there were religious books coming out all over the place making the connection, whether it was really there or not. I think they wanted to come up with something to explain the force so that they couldn't equate it to God or God's power. |
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never understood why yoda went to dagaboh. Why not either just hang out with obi-won or try to rebuild the Jedi order? Because the emperor could sense them unless they kept a low profile. Dagobah's massive life forms masked yoda's presence. The last place they would look for Obi wan was tattooine Not to mention the huge dark force sump No expanded universe allowed here....sorry... Yoda and obi-wan were on different worlds in order to keep a low profile. Obi-wan on tattoine to keep an eye on Luke, yoda on degobah to do nothing? Leia was with ambassador organa so she didn't need anyone special to watch her as he was in on the rebellion from the get go. |
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Why did the Empire land so far from the base that they had to use walking vehicles to attack Hoth base? And WALKING vehicles... not flying attack vehicles like the rebels had. Not fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed FLYING fighters. No, they used slow-moving, virtually-blind-to-anything-not-directly-in-front-of-them frickin WALKING vehicles whose legs are so frickin huge and powerful they can crush a fighter but can't snap a tiny tow-cable. They probably didn't expect the rebels to be so well equipped, so they sent in heavy armor protected by infantry. No field artillery? No king of battle? Lame...how would indirect fire work with laser / plasma weapons? |
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Why did the Empire land so far from the base that they had to use walking vehicles to attack Hoth base? And WALKING vehicles... not flying attack vehicles like the rebels had. Not fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed FLYING fighters. No, they used slow-moving, virtually-blind-to-anything-not-directly-in-front-of-them frickin WALKING vehicles whose legs are so frickin huge and powerful they can crush a fighter but can't snap a tiny tow-cable. the shield was up, im guessing it protects overhead but has some kind of gap on land. so they sent land vehicles to knock it out and bring in assault troops. the ion cannon also could disable the Star Destroyers as seen when transports running the blockade, so the majority of fleet were at standoff range. |
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Yoda was one of the most powerful beings in the force to ever exist. He was on Dagobah near the evil force presence for it to hide him, like someone else stated. Obi-wan wasn't even near him in force potential so didn't need something like that to hide his presence.
Wookieepedia, for all your Star Wars needs. You can spend days on there just reading stuff, I know I have. 
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Why did the Empire land so far from the base that they had to use walking vehicles to attack Hoth base? And WALKING vehicles... not flying attack vehicles like the rebels had. Not fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed FLYING fighters. No, they used slow-moving, virtually-blind-to-anything-not-directly-in-front-of-them frickin WALKING vehicles whose legs are so frickin huge and powerful they can crush a fighter but can't snap a tiny tow-cable. An arms manufacturer had contract with the empire. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why did the Empire land so far from the base that they had to use walking vehicles to attack Hoth base? And WALKING vehicles... not flying attack vehicles like the rebels had. Not fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed FLYING fighters. No, they used slow-moving, virtually-blind-to-anything-not-directly-in-front-of-them frickin WALKING vehicles whose legs are so frickin huge and powerful they can crush a fighter but can't snap a tiny tow-cable. An arms manufacturer had contract with the empire. The more advanced AT-AT's were out of commission pending a software upgrade. |
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never understood why yoda went to dagaboh. Why not either just hang out with obi-won or try to rebuild the Jedi order? Because the emperor could sense them unless they kept a low profile. Dagobah's massive life forms masked yoda's presence. The last place they would look for Obi wan was tattooine According to Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (Considered by Lucas himself to be mostly cannon): Degobah had the presence of the dark side on it, masking Yoda from the Emperor (positive/negative charges neutralizing each other). Not fully explained, but evidence the cave of the dark side Luke went into for his test. The "cave" was somewhat explained to have been a crashed spaceship,implied that of a dead Sith that died long ago. Perhaps one Yoda had defeated hundreds of years earlier, which is why he knew to go there. |
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Most Star Wars stuff ends up being headache inducing junk, but this is sheer brilliance:
Star Wars, a New Sith |
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As I watch Empire Strikes Back a few questions pop in my head. They are as follows: Just how many surprises does the falcon have left in her?
"a few surprises left in her, sweetheart." How does C3PO get up after falling? It's not like he has great articulation...
screams for help like the ghey. Could / did Ben and Yoda communicate prior to him dying?
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He was a great Air Force pilot, not a great Navy pilot. |
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never understood why yoda went to dagaboh. Why not either just hang out with obi-won or try to rebuild the Jedi order? Because the emperor could sense them unless they kept a low profile. Dagobah's massive life forms masked yoda's presence. The last place they would look for Obi wan was tattooine Not to mention the huge dark force sump No expanded universe allowed here....sorry... Yoda and obi-wan were on different worlds in order to keep a low profile. Obi-wan on tattoine to keep an eye on Luke, yoda on degobah to do nothing? Leia was with ambassador organa so she didn't need anyone special to watch her as he was in on the rebellion from the get go. Expanded universe? In what I wrote? Based on the Empire Strikes Back when Yoda tells look the tree is a place of evil and that he won't need his weapons and he has a vision of himself as Vader? As to Tatooine, first place I'd look if I was Vader, I mean, Luke has relatives there. Isn't that like step one in the police play book, check relatives, friends and associates? |
| The link to the article is bs....if we use eu then we have the information that han was a captain for the empire and saw wookies being treated unfairly and as slaves. Chewbacca was going to be executed and han saved him. This left chewbacca in Hans debt forever. Eventually chewbacca died for han in saving his child |
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never understood why yoda went to dagaboh. Why not either just hang out with obi-won or try to rebuild the Jedi order? Because the emperor could sense them unless they kept a low profile. Dagobah's massive life forms masked yoda's presence. The last place they would look for Obi wan was tattooine Not to mention the huge dark force sump No expanded universe allowed here....sorry... Yoda and obi-wan were on different worlds in order to keep a low profile. Obi-wan on tattoine to keep an eye on Luke, yoda on degobah to do nothing? Leia was with ambassador organa so she didn't need anyone special to watch her as he was in on the rebellion from the get go. Expanded universe? In what I wrote? Based on the Empire Strikes Back when Yoda tells look the tree is a place of evil and that he won't need his weapons and he has a vision of himself as Vader? As to Tatooine, first place I'd look if I was Vader, I mean, Luke has relatives there. Isn't that like step one in the police play book, check relatives, friends and associates? He didn't know he had children, so there would be no reason to look for Luke on Tatooine. By the time Vader knew he had a soon, Luke's family was dead. In regards to the cave, Yoda told Luke that what was in the cave was only what he took with him. Luke's first reaction was to arm himself before entering. One could look at that as aggressive behavior. Since aggression can lead to the dark side, his choice arm up before entering lead to him confronting a vision of himself as evil. Had he entered the cave in a more peaceful mindset, he would have had a different encounter in the cave. This is why Yoda refers to his failure at the cave. |
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The link to the article is bs....if we use eu then we have the information that han was a captain for the empire and saw applies being treated unfairly and as slaves. Chewbacca was going to be executed and han saved him. This left chewbacca in Hans debt forever.edited Might want to put a spoiler alert on that. |
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To the OP's Q's; 1: Many 2: clawed his way up. 3: Yes they had everything arranged . 4: Yoda was in control of everything! What was Goerge Lucas Smoking when he created the (Ahem) first three pieces of err movie? Or last three, depending how you look at it? Pretty sure he was on meth....although I do like RotS .... |
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To the OP's Q's; 1: Many 2: clawed his way up. 3: Yes they had everything arranged . 4: Yoda was in control of everything! What was Goerge Lucas Smoking when he created the (Ahem) first three pieces of err movie? Or last three, depending how you look at it? Pretty sure he was on meth....although I do like RotS .... ROTS is one the best of the new ones(not saying much) I might even like it more than Jedi. I've got to pick up the books again. I'm on Planet of Twilight but its going really slowly. FUCK I wasted 5k on this. 
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Quoted: Why did the Empire land so far from the base that they had to use walking vehicles to attack Hoth base? And WALKING vehicles... not flying attack vehicles like the rebels had. Not fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed FLYING fighters. No, they used slow-moving, virtually-blind-to-anything-not-directly-in-front-of-them frickin WALKING vehicles whose legs are so frickin huge and powerful they can crush a fighter but can't snap a tiny tow-cable. We think alike. Just the same, I liked Empire better than any other Star Wars flick. |
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We just did an epic thread on this subject last month.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1362715_Watching_Empire_Strikes_Back_and_had_some_thoughts___.html |
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