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10/11/2012 7:50:00 PM EDT
Can any of our resident Docs explain why Ambien makes you get double vision?

The way it works with me is almost as if each eye is seeing on its own, instead of working for a single picture.  For example, my tv will be superimposed on itself with 2 images that don't totally match up. But when I close one eye, the one image (of whichever eye I close) will be gone and I can then see a normal view of the TV.  

Why does that happen?
10/11/2012 7:55:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Because it's pure EVIL. That's all I got.


I took it once, had nightmares all night about my kids dying. It was horrible. Pure EVIL.


Lunesta works for me. I bounce off furniture trying to find my way to the bathroom in the middle of the night but sleep like a baby.
10/11/2012 7:59:07 PM EDT
[#2]
Don't take Ambien. If you decide you're going to take it anyways, let someone else hold your guns and/or ammunition.

If you ever find yourself suicidally depressed, remember that you've been taking Ambien and stop taking it.
10/11/2012 8:01:49 PM EDT
[#3]
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Don't take Ambien. If you decide you're going to take it anyways, let someone else hold your guns and/or ammunition.

If you ever find yourself suicidally depressed, remember that you've been taking Ambien and stop taking it.


its also has withdrawls that will make you feel like your in hell.
10/11/2012 8:02:07 PM EDT
[#4]
I think it blocks short term memory function, so maybe your brain is forgetting it's seeing two images?  I dunno, I know when mine kicks in cause my cell phone screen turns all wonky like that as well.
10/11/2012 8:06:18 PM EDT
[#5]
When the walrus comes and speaks to you of a wonderful journey, follow him.
10/11/2012 8:07:45 PM EDT
[#6]
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Don't take Ambien. If you decide you're going to take it anyways, let someone else hold your guns and/or ammunition.

If you ever find yourself suicidally depressed, remember that you've been taking Ambien and stop taking it.


This.  I knew a guy that shot himself while on that shit.  He was calling his wife saying things we trying to kill him.
10/11/2012 8:08:13 PM EDT
[#7]
A big issue with Ambien is that many people do things that they have no recollection of, and the things that they do are often not things that they would rationally do when coherent.
10/11/2012 8:08:28 PM EDT
[#8]
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Don't take Ambien. If you decide you're going to take it anyways, let someone else hold your guns and/or ammunition.

If you ever find yourself suicidally depressed, remember that you've been taking Ambien and stop taking it.


its also has withdrawls that will make you feel like your in hell.


I feel like I'm in hell when its Wednesday in the office and I haven't slept worth a damn for 2 nights
10/11/2012 8:11:07 PM EDT
[#9]
IIRC you're not supposed to watch TV after taking it. Go straight to bed.

There have been some funny threads here about ambien, I seem to recall a story about somebody spending lots on EBay and not remembering buying anything.
10/11/2012 8:14:21 PM EDT
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10/11/2012 8:15:56 PM EDT
[#11]
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IIRC you're not supposed to watch TV after taking it. Go straight to bed.

There have been some funny threads here about ambien, I seem to recall a story about somebody spending lots on EBay and not remembering buying anything.


Yep, retrograde amnesia.

I used to sell a competitor to Ambien. Lots of fun to sell against but everyone wanted to be knocked out so they generally chose Ambien.
10/11/2012 8:16:10 PM EDT
[#12]
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Can any of our resident Docs explain why Ambien makes you get double vision?

The way it works with me is almost as if each eye is seeing on its own, instead of working for a single picture.  For example, my tv will be superimposed on itself with 2 images that don't totally match up. But when I close one eye, the one image (of whichever eye I close) will be gone and I can then see a normal view of the TV.  

Why does that happen?


That little divot between your nose and upprer lip is called the aisle of Langerham. it serves two purposes - it produces insulin, and it ties directly into the corpus colossum, the part of your brain that joins the two hemispheres. Ambien makes you sleep by dramatically increasing insulin levels, which in turn drops blood sugar levels and makes you fatigued and sleepy. Unfortunately, one of the side effects is often transient langerhamatic inflammation, or swelling of the Aisle of Langerham. That has an effect on the corpus colossum, causing each hemisphere to fall out of sinc with the other. Thus, you develop diplopia or double vision, as well as that echoing sound you hear.

























Hey, it makes about as much sense as most GD medical advice.
10/11/2012 8:18:08 PM EDT
[#13]
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IIRC you're not supposed to watch TV after taking it. Go straight to bed.

There have been some funny threads here about ambien, I seem to recall a story about somebody spending lots on EBay and not remembering buying anything.


Yep, retrograde amnesia.

I used to sell a competitor to Ambien. Lots of fun to sell against but everyone wanted to be knocked out so they generally chose Ambien.


Antrograde. retrograde is losing already formed memories. Antrograde is losing the ability to form new ones.
10/11/2012 8:22:03 PM EDT
[#14]
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Can any of our resident Docs explain why Ambien makes you get double vision?

The way it works with me is almost as if each eye is seeing on its own, instead of working for a single picture.  For example, my tv will be superimposed on itself with 2 images that don't totally match up. But when I close one eye, the one image (of whichever eye I close) will be gone and I can then see a normal view of the TV.  

Why does that happen?


That little divot between your nose and upprer lip is called the aisle of Langerham. it serves two purposes - it produces insulin, and it ties directly into the corpus colossum, the part of your brain that joins the two hemispheres. Ambien makes you sleep by dramatically increasing insulin levels, which in turn drops blood sugar levels and makes you fatigued and sleepy. Unfortunately, one of the side effects is often transient langerhamatic inflammation, or swelling of the Aisle of Langerham. That has an effect on the corpus colossum, causing each hemisphere to fall out of sinc with the other. Thus, you develop diplopia or double vision, as well as that echoing sound you hear.

























Hey, it makes about as much sense as most GD medical advice.




This.

And rectal prolapse.
10/11/2012 8:24:56 PM EDT
[#15]
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IIRC you're not supposed to watch TV after taking it. Go straight to bed.

There have been some funny threads here about ambien, I seem to recall a story about somebody spending lots on EBay and not remembering buying anything.


Yep, retrograde amnesia.

I used to sell a competitor to Ambien. Lots of fun to sell against but everyone wanted to be knocked out so they generally chose Ambien.


Antrograde. retrograde is losing already formed memories. Antrograde is losing the ability to form new ones.


Crap. Welll, it's been 10 years since I sold a sleeper so cut me some slack.
10/11/2012 8:25:28 PM EDT
[#16]
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When the walrus comes and speaks to you of a wonderful journey, follow him.


Always follow the walrus.

The Ambien Walrus has been the source of some most excellent shenanigans at my house.
10/11/2012 8:26:31 PM EDT
[#17]

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10/11/2012 8:27:01 PM EDT
[#18]
They put me on ambien for 5 days in iraq. It was AWESOME. 8 hrs of amazingly restful sleep.

YMMV (some scary stories on here...glad I didn't have that kind of reaction...yikes)

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10/11/2012 8:27:25 PM EDT
[#19]
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Don't take Ambien. If you decide you're going to take it anyways, let someone else hold your guns and/or ammunition.

If you ever find yourself suicidally depressed, remember that you've been taking Ambien and stop taking it.


its also has withdrawls that will make you feel like your in hell.


I feel like I'm in hell when its Wednesday in the office and I haven't slept worth a damn for 2 nights


wait till you quit taking it and cant sleep for a week
10/11/2012 8:28:17 PM EDT
[#20]
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IIRC you're not supposed to watch TV after taking it. Go straight to bed.

There have been some funny threads here about ambien, I seem to recall a story about somebody spending lots on EBay and not remembering buying anything.


Yep, retrograde amnesia.

I used to sell a competitor to Ambien. Lots of fun to sell against but everyone wanted to be knocked out so they generally chose Ambien.


Antrograde. retrograde is losing already formed memories. Antrograde is losing the ability to form new ones.


Crap. Welll, it's been 10 years since I sold a sleeper so cut me some slack.


It's just a rare treat to be the corrector instead of the correctee for a change. Being married, I don't get to experience it often.
10/11/2012 8:31:41 PM EDT
[#21]
I'll say it a third time, just to be firm about it. Don't have access to anything that you can be irresponsible with while you're on Ambien. This include firearms, vehicles, et cetera. Locking things up isn't enough because you can still think while on it and gain access, but it can seriously distort your perception of reality and emotion to states that are completely unnatural to yourself.

Ambien is not recommended for more than, I want to say, 10 days continuous. I've seen lots of prescribers prescribe it for six months or some other ridiculous timespan. Tylenol PM, Benadryl, et cetera, if you must take something to knock yourself out. A good old school remedy is warm milk or force yourself to wake up at 5 AM and run five miles. I guarantee you'll sleep like a baby at night after a couple of days of that.
10/11/2012 8:57:55 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm flying to Europe in a couple weeks from CA with a layover in Texas on the way. I was planning on taking an ambien upon leaving Texas on the long leg of the flight. I don't normally take ambien, is get it from my brother. Bad idea?
10/11/2012 9:16:04 PM EDT
[#23]
Didn't some Arfcommer shoot himself in the arm recently while on Ambien??
10/11/2012 9:19:25 PM EDT
[#24]
There was a thread last year where someone on arfcom posted a pic of the door of his safe. When he takes ambien, he puts a note on it. Can't remember what it said though.
10/11/2012 9:19:45 PM EDT
[#25]
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Didn't some Arfcommer shoot himself in the arm recently while on Ambien??


Yup.
10/11/2012 9:28:56 PM EDT
[#26]
I have been on it for over a year.

I have had trouble falling asleep since I was a small child.

Ambien has given me the best sleep of my life.

Today.... My sleep apnea kept waking me up just as I would fall asleep.

I'm pretty sure at some point I woke up and drove myself into town and ate lunch.

It was not the first time that happended.

I may have to get off the stuff.

10/11/2012 10:02:25 PM EDT
[#28]
Have any of you tried melatonin before diving into the hard stuff?   When I have to work shitty hours, and I know I'm too "awake" to sleep, I take a 2mg pill and it works great... As long as I'm in bed.  If I stay up, the sleepiness wears off in about 20 minutes.  

I cannot image dealing with a home invasion or any other emergency on Ambien.
10/11/2012 10:03:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Take a small dose and go to bed right away.  Drinking and ambien don't mix at all.  For real, don't drink.  Stupid shit will happen that may not be confined to the privacy of your house.
10/11/2012 10:04:48 PM EDT
[#30]
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IIRC you're not supposed to watch TV after taking it. Go straight to bed.

There have been some funny threads here about ambien, I seem to recall a story about somebody spending lots on EBay and not remembering buying anything.


Yep, retrograde amnesia.

I used to sell a competitor to Ambien. Lots of fun to sell against but everyone wanted to be knocked out so they generally chose Ambien.







Lunesta will put you down quick and for all night.

10/11/2012 10:18:41 PM EDT
[#31]
Take it and go to bed. Don't take it and sit up watching TV for a couple of hours. Don't take it and have a couple of beers. Don't take it and drive to the store. Take it and go to bed.
10/11/2012 10:22:09 PM EDT
[#32]
I've had good luck with Valerian Root and Melatonin (not combined) to help me sleep.
10/11/2012 10:27:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Ambien has been a life saver for me, too.  Was on it for about a year and a half before my doc switched me to something else, which I took for the next two years or so.  Now I'm on Ambien again.
Tried everything before and during to get a normal nights sleep.  Every sleep hygiene tip you could think of.  Counselling, melatonin and other OTC sleep aids, EMDR, the works.  Ambien still puts me out the quickest, lets me sleep all night, and wake up feeling (mostly) normal instead of hungover or groggy.  It's a miracle drug in my opinion.












That said... I have had a few occasions where I did some weird shit and have absolutely no recollection of it.  Rearranged my room in a very strange fashion, and neatly placed my keys, phone, and wallet on the floor in a triangle underneath a chair that I had placed dead center of the room.  Woke up with my computer hooked up to the big screen and a porn site up ().  Weird shit.













After I had a couple strange wake-ups, I started making absolute sure I was in bed with my eyes closed within about a minute of taking the pills.  I can't get side tracked, cause I can feel the funny vision and 'high' feeling after only about 5-10 minutes.













Great drug.  Weird drug.




 
10/11/2012 10:30:55 PM EDT
[#34]
I want to know why so many people take it
10/11/2012 10:34:25 PM EDT
[#35]
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They put me on ambien for 5 days in iraq. It was AWESOME. 8 hrs of amazingly restful sleep.

YMMV (some scary stories on here...glad I didn't have that kind of reaction...yikes)

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Did you happen to look like your avatar while on ambien?
10/11/2012 10:35:10 PM EDT
[#36]





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I want to know why so many people take it



When you work long hours at a very physically demanding job, and you start seeing shit because you can't fall asleep on your downtime, you'll understand.  





I started developing anger problems. I was getting maybe 4-5 hours of sleep per week.  I'd be laying in bed for 5-6 hours+ and not able to fall asleep, and I'd get so furious over it I'd start breaking down.  Sleep is kinda necessary, man.
10/11/2012 10:39:27 PM EDT
[#37]
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I want to know why so many people take it


If you've ever not been able to sleep at night for weeks you'd understand.
10/11/2012 10:42:08 PM EDT
[#38]
I'm pretty sure the movie Fight Club is really a documentary about an insomniac that was taking Ambien and not going directly to sleep.






My parents have a neighbor that took Ambien, drove in his sleep, went the wrong way on a freeway into a tunnel and had a head on collision with a bus, he was in a hyundai.  All he remembered was going to sleep and waking up really disoriented in a hospital bed a week later w/o his spleen.
10/11/2012 10:42:15 PM EDT
[#39]
I have posted on here after taking ambien w/no recollection. Luckily it was about vw jetta's & nothing embarrassing.
 
10/11/2012 10:43:58 PM EDT
[#40]
I took it once.  Woke up an hour later paralyzed.  No shit could not move.  I had to piss so bad, but I couldn't get up.  After about 30 minutes I finally managed to roll out of bed and crash into the floor.  From there I managed to crawl to the bathroom.  After about an hour the effects completely wore off and I was up for the next 24 hours.  After that, doc put me on trazadone.  That worked a little better except that I'd wake up with a raging headache after only about 4 hours of sleep.  Finally I just gave up and deal with the lack of sleep.
10/11/2012 10:44:33 PM EDT
[#41]
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I'm flying to Europe in a couple weeks from CA with a layover in Texas on the way. I was planning on taking an ambien upon leaving Texas on the long leg of the flight. I don't normally take ambien, is get it from my brother. Bad idea?


Having a controlled substance in a secure area without a prescription? Nah, go for it. What could possibly go wrong?

10/11/2012 10:44:52 PM EDT
[#42]
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Because it's pure EVIL.


10/11/2012 10:47:47 PM EDT
[#43]



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I have posted on here after taking ambien w/no recollection. Luckily it was about vw jetta's & nothing embarrassing.  


She also woke me up once by flipping on the light, said, "What, are we sleeping?" then wandered out of the room. Came back with a big bowl of half melted sorbet, and proceeded to spill it all over me trying to climb back into bed. Has zero recollection.

 



Those are the two incidents I know about
10/11/2012 11:13:16 PM EDT
[#44]
I took it once, woke up in the laundry room floor.  Needless to say, I have not taken it since
10/11/2012 11:22:48 PM EDT
[#45]
I think I under respond to it. I don't have any of the issues people talk about on here. In fact I was disappointed the first time I took it because o experienced nothing like what members talk about on here. It just helps me get to sleep (most of the time) and lets me sleep through the night without waking up. Recently one pill didn't put me to sleep so I took a second. Big mistake. I didn't sleep  long enough to completely metabolize the second pill and woke up for work feeling like u was drunk. Had to call in and say I would be late because I was a retard.

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10/12/2012 12:25:45 AM EDT
[#46]



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I think I under respond to it. I don't have any of the issues people talk about on here. In fact I was disappointed the first time I took it because o experienced nothing like what members talk about on here. It just helps me get to sleep (most of the time) and lets me sleep through the night without waking up. Recently one pill didn't put me to sleep so I took a second. Big mistake. I didn't sleep  long enough to completely metabolize the second pill and woke up for work feeling like u was drunk. Had to call in and say I would be late because I was a retard.



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It's kind of strange, and I think it's effectiveness depends on a couple factors (that I don't know about).  Sometimes I can take two or three, and it won't do ANYTHING.  No sleep, no crazy midnight adventures, complete recollection of everything I do.  Sometimes I can take one, feel high, rearrange some furniture, fall asleep on the toilet, and wake up not remembering anything.

 
10/12/2012 12:43:44 AM EDT
[#47]
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I have posted on here after taking ambien w/no recollection. Luckily it was about vw jetta's & nothing embarrassing.  

She also woke me up once by flipping on the light, said, "What, are we sleeping?" then wandered out of the room. Came back with a big bowl of half melted sorbet, and proceeded to spill it all over me trying to climb back into bed. Has zero recollection.    

Those are the two incidents I know about


LoL. I'm taking it, that was your wife?
10/12/2012 2:41:02 AM EDT
[#48]
I've never had any problems with ambian other than saying stupid shit to the wife before we fall asleep. I think people who are having very serious effects could be taking more than they are supposed to or are not going to bed when they should.
10/12/2012 2:42:04 AM EDT
[#49]
I have a relative who took it.  Then forgot they took it and took another one, then forgot again etc.  In the morning they were found barely breathing and 17 pills were missing from the new prescription.  

Evil is too kind a word for it.
10/12/2012 2:48:17 AM EDT
[#50]
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I have a relative who took it.  Then forgot they took it and took another one, then forgot again etc.  In the morning they were found barely breathing and 17 pills were missing from the new prescription.  

Evil is too kind a word for it.


I don't know how you could forget you took it. That's kind of like being drunk out of your mind and forgetting that you've been drinking at all.
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