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9/27/2012 6:25:08 PM EDT
When I do my verify, the material looks like it's upside down. I created a point at -.25 and drew a line from corner to corner in job setup and the material size looked right. Backplot looks good and depths are right, but verify is jacked.

Been jacking with this for over an hour. Any ideas??

9/27/2012 6:29:04 PM EDT
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Now my backplot won't work either.
9/27/2012 6:33:02 PM EDT
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That is an ancient version of Mastercam.  I hate that software.

If I was just learning like you seem to be, I would run, as fast as you can.
9/27/2012 6:39:18 PM EDT
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Now my backplot won't work either.


close mastercam and reopen it, if you dont have enough memory verify will give you trouble
9/27/2012 6:41:39 PM EDT
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Now my backplot won't work either.


close mastercam and reopen it, if you dont have enough memory verify will give you trouble


Didnt work.

My coworker was trying to get that verify to work so I did a bunch of shit with job setup and creating points -.25 to draw lines ect and now backplot doesn't work and verify is still fucked.
9/27/2012 6:51:50 PM EDT
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Wow that is an old version! I've had this problem before! I just shitcanned my first copy and redid it. Worked fine 2nd time around.
9/27/2012 6:54:34 PM EDT
[#6]
You may have some geometry that is black hidden by your background.
9/27/2012 7:00:05 PM EDT
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I didn't get involved in mastercam until X, so this may not be helpful...



But when I use Verify & the material is in the wrong orientation, I can usually change my stock view under the stock setup tab in the operations manager.



Sometimes I even have to toggle it through a couple different views & then back to the original & it will refresh itself in the correct position.



I'm running X6 at work & was responsible for updating from X5 to X6.



Has been the most buggy & frustrating experience I have ever had with software.



If I were just starting a shop I would be looking at other options besides mastercam.



emastercam.com forums might be helpful.
9/27/2012 7:27:39 PM EDT
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Been using MasterCAM for 12 years now.

X9 was the last version before they really go their verify stuff to really work right, IMHO. We're using X6 now.

That being said, hows your tool planes? Are they all in TOP? Is your stock size correct also (kinda reaching there).

The Emastercam forums can be helpful, as long as your legit (no bootleg) and don't ask for a post
9/27/2012 7:45:32 PM EDT
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I GOT THE VERIFY TO WORK, BUT NOW MY BACKPLOT DOESNT WORK. IT SHOWS THE NUMBERS ROLLING ALONG AT THE BOTTOM BUT NO TOOL OR PATH IS SHOWN.

CAN YOU TELL I HAVE BEEN TYPING NOTATIONS IN THE COMMENTS SECTION?
9/27/2012 11:46:07 PM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.
9/28/2012 12:38:23 AM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.


Mastercam 9 has to be at least 7 years old.  It should run fine on modern hardware.  It is just poorly written and buggy software.......always has been.

It could also be your video card.  nVidia Quadro cards are designed for for CADCAM work.  Your typical gaming type cards can be problematic especially when it comes to verification.
9/28/2012 3:52:32 AM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.


Mastercam 9 has to be at least 7 years old.  It should run fine on modern hardware.  It is just poorly written and buggy software.......always has been.

It could also be your video card.  nVidia Quadro cards are designed for for CADCAM work.  Your typical gaming type cards can be problematic especially when it comes to verification.


I have an invidia card with a gig of ram, plus 4 gigs of ram on the MB, quad core processor, ect.

This computer was built about 2 years ago and should be sufficient I would think. It's no super computer, but its no slough either.
9/28/2012 4:26:09 AM EDT
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I GOT THE VERIFY TO WORK, BUT NOW MY BACKPLOT DOESNT WORK. IT SHOWS THE NUMBERS ROLLING ALONG AT THE BOTTOM BUT NO TOOL OR PATH IS SHOWN.

CAN YOU TELL I HAVE BEEN TYPING NOTATIONS IN THE COMMENTS SECTION?


look on the side menu and see if the tool has been turned off, you can turn off and on the tool , rapid, etc
never had a problem with backplot not working only if the tool has been turned off
9/28/2012 5:31:38 AM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.


Mastercam 9 has to be at least 7 years old.  It should run fine on modern hardware.  It is just poorly written and buggy software.......always has been.

It could also be your video card.  nVidia Quadro cards are designed for for CADCAM work.  Your typical gaming type cards can be problematic especially when it comes to verification.


I have an invidia card with a gig of ram, plus 4 gigs of ram on the MB, quad core processor, ect.

This computer was built about 2 years ago and should be sufficient I would think. It's no super computer, but its no slough either.


There is a huge difference between the nVidia Quadro and GeForce cards.  Every CADCAM maker that I've dealt with recommends the Quadro only.  Especially never to use ATI cards.
9/28/2012 6:20:28 AM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.


Mastercam 9 has to be at least 7 years old.  It should run fine on modern hardware.  It is just poorly written and buggy software.......always has been.

It could also be your video card.  nVidia Quadro cards are designed for for CADCAM work.  Your typical gaming type cards can be problematic especially when it comes to verification.


I have an invidia card with a gig of ram, plus 4 gigs of ram on the MB, quad core processor, ect.

This computer was built about 2 years ago and should be sufficient I would think. It's no super computer, but its no slough either.


There is a huge difference between the nVidia Quadro and GeForce cards.  Every CADCAM maker that I've dealt with recommends the Quadro only.  Especially never to use ATI cards.


Mine's the G-Force.
9/28/2012 5:27:47 PM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.


Mastercam 9 has to be at least 7 years old.  It should run fine on modern hardware.  It is just poorly written and buggy software.......always has been.

It could also be your video card.  nVidia Quadro cards are designed for for CADCAM work.  Your typical gaming type cards can be problematic especially when it comes to verification.


I have an invidia card with a gig of ram, plus 4 gigs of ram on the MB, quad core processor, ect.

This computer was built about 2 years ago and should be sufficient I would think. It's no super computer, but its no slough either.


There is a huge difference between the nVidia Quadro and GeForce cards.  Every CADCAM maker that I've dealt with recommends the Quadro only.  Especially never to use ATI cards.


Mine's the G-Force.


LOL!  I am going to bet that is your problem.  Quadros are expensive, look on eBay for one, maybe you'll get lucky.
9/28/2012 5:30:41 PM EDT
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In the past 8 years I have never had a problem with CAD/CAM on any graphics driver, intel, nvidia, or ati.



I would just start over. I hope you didn't model it in MC.
9/28/2012 6:20:41 PM EDT
[#18]
FUCK!@!

I ran the repair wizard and then completely uninstalled and reinstalled the program.

Nothing works. No backplot. What the fucking fuck is going on????????????????????????
9/28/2012 6:32:23 PM EDT
[#19]
Nevermind. I fixed it.

NC Utils<backplot<showpath<Y

10/2/2012 7:40:12 PM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.


Mastercam 9 has to be at least 7 years old.  It should run fine on modern hardware.  It is just poorly written and buggy software.......always has been.

It could also be your video card.  nVidia Quadro cards are designed for for CADCAM work.  Your typical gaming type cards can be problematic especially when it comes to verification.


I have an invidia card with a gig of ram, plus 4 gigs of ram on the MB, quad core processor, ect.

This computer was built about 2 years ago and should be sufficient I would think. It's no super computer, but its no slough either.


There is a huge difference between the nVidia Quadro and GeForce cards.  Every CADCAM maker that I've dealt with recommends the Quadro only.  Especially never to use ATI cards.


Mine's the G-Force.


LOL!  I am going to bet that is your problem.  Quadros are expensive, look on eBay for one, maybe you'll get lucky.


Any suggestions? It keeps locking up trimming surfaces.
10/2/2012 10:31:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Ugh. Trimming surfaces seems to be black magic in any version of MC. "section to keep, section to trim", and MC cant seem to decide which surface you are clicking. Haven't even tried it in a couple of upgrades in X.
10/2/2012 11:14:15 PM EDT
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It may be that your PC is underpowered also, or your video card can't handle it. More memory for both helps. That kind of crap happened a lot when our CAM room PC's were at the bottom of the specs for MC. Wasn't uncommon for wonky backplot/verify.

And you may simply need to reboot more often. RAMsaver sometimes works too.


Mastercam 9 has to be at least 7 years old.  It should run fine on modern hardware.  It is just poorly written and buggy software.......always has been.

It could also be your video card.  nVidia Quadro cards are designed for for CADCAM work.  Your typical gaming type cards can be problematic especially when it comes to verification.


I have an invidia card with a gig of ram, plus 4 gigs of ram on the MB, quad core processor, ect.

This computer was built about 2 years ago and should be sufficient I would think. It's no super computer, but its no slough either.


There is a huge difference between the nVidia Quadro and GeForce cards.  Every CADCAM maker that I've dealt with recommends the Quadro only.  Especially never to use ATI cards.


Mine's the G-Force.


LOL!  I am going to bet that is your problem.  Quadros are expensive, look on eBay for one, maybe you'll get lucky.


Any suggestions? It keeps locking up trimming surfaces.


I hate Mastercam, my ultimate suggestion is to just not use it, they are successful at marketing, nothing else.

Expect access violation and GP fault messages with your vintage software.  Save your files regularly and restart when necessary.  Avoid the quirks that make your software lock up.  This is just normal, as screwed up as it sounds.

You should never model in your CAM software.  The only geometry you need is wireframe for your tool path boundaries and surfaces for surface cutting.  Surface creation work in older CAM software is a wild pain in the ass.  It's wireframe technology with surfaces added at a later time.

The imported surfaces often times can't be modified or are problematic doing so.  You can re-create surfaces from the existing wireframe and work from there.
10/2/2012 11:19:40 PM EDT
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ESPRIT......FTW!
10/2/2012 11:25:51 PM EDT
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ESPRIT......FTW!


Funny you should mention......we'll probably be going with that next year.  I've heard nothing but good things about how they do business.