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9/11/2012 8:11:36 AM EDT
I built and new computer and I'm running Solid State Drives in it.

For those of you who have not used them they are well worth it.



I made a new thread with a poll Here for those running SSD drives.
9/11/2012 8:12:53 AM EDT
[#1]
Brand?

Specs?
9/11/2012 8:15:38 AM EDT
[#2]
Samsung 830 256GB

Read 520 MB/s
Write 400 MB/s
9/11/2012 8:18:12 AM EDT
[#3]
http://www.wimp.com/samsungssds/



Wanna see what happens if you put 24 together?


 
9/11/2012 8:19:33 AM EDT
[#4]
They are unbelievably fast, hopefully they prove to be reliable.

Macbook pro w/500 gig SSD.... Sub 10 second boot times are awesome!
9/11/2012 8:19:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Yup, just swapped my platter drive for the OCZ Vertex 4 in my laptop with a new install of Mint Linux.

It was like buying a new computer.
9/11/2012 8:20:05 AM EDT
[#6]

SLC Agility EX 60GB has been my operating system (Windows 7 Ultimate x64) drive for about 3 years now.
 


It was pretty hot shit when I bought it back then. There's faster stuff out now, but it's still a damned good drive.

9/11/2012 8:20:40 AM EDT
[#7]
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They are unbelievably fast, hopefully they prove to be reliable.

Macbook pro w/500 gig SSD.... Sub 10 second boot times are awesome!


My laptop takes longer to POST than it takes to prompt me for my login password afterward.
9/11/2012 8:24:50 AM EDT
[#8]
I had a Corsair that took a dump on me.  Enjoyed it while it lasted.

Samsung the latest greatest?
9/11/2012 8:24:51 AM EDT
[#9]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233268

I've been pleased with this drive. Pretty damn good deal for $180. I paid $1/GB back when I bought it. I'd probably go for the GT model now though since it's only $20 more and gives a bit better performance.
9/11/2012 8:25:26 AM EDT
[#10]
I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.

9/11/2012 8:27:49 AM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


Yup, just swapped my platter drive for the OCZ Vertex 4 in my laptop with a new install of Mint Linux.



It was like buying a new computer.






 
9/11/2012 8:28:02 AM EDT
[#12]
I think mine takes longer to find and connect to the wireless network then it does to go from me pressing the power button till the OS is loaded and ready to use.

My old laptop (6 year old Dell) is still in service as a garage computer. I find it so slow and frustrating to use now (I am spoiled).
9/11/2012 8:28:33 AM EDT
[#13]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.



Get a good one (Samsung 830, Crucial M4, or Intel (forget the model)) and you should be good
9/11/2012 8:28:43 AM EDT
[#14]



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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.





With modern backup cloud solutions, there is no excuse my man.



 
9/11/2012 8:29:40 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.



I had a Kingston SSD start failing on me, and I had plenty of warning. It just had a bad sector on it, not complete failure. I just got erratic behavior. I only used it as a system drive, so no critical data was ever on it.

It was under warranty, so I RMAed it and Kingston sent a newer model drive to replace it.
9/11/2012 8:31:50 AM EDT
[#16]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.



I've heard when they go, they go all at once with no warning.  Time Machine on the Mac works great though.  
9/11/2012 8:31:52 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
http://www.wimp.com/samsungssds/

Wanna see what happens if you put 24 together?
 


Dude looks like a giant flamer.
9/11/2012 8:33:44 AM EDT
[#18]
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I had a Corsair that took a dump on me.  Enjoyed it while it lasted.

Samsung the latest greatest?



They sure see to be the one to get

I'm actually running Two Samsung 830 256GB (one for Linux and one for Windows).

I have been very pleased with them



9/11/2012 8:35:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.



Buy two and mirror.
9/11/2012 8:37:27 AM EDT
[#20]
Crucial M4 should have the built in sections needed for 1/2 second boot times under the new Windows OS coming down the pipe.

Good stuff!
9/11/2012 8:41:38 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


With modern backup cloud solutions, there is no excuse my man.
 


Yup, I use Carbonite. Just had to do a restore on a new platter drive in my wife's Windoze box (man i hate having a M$ box in my house to support) and it was elegant and painless.

Anyone who isn't keeping their data backed up deserves whatever loss they encounter.
9/11/2012 8:42:11 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Crucial M4 should have the built in sections needed for 1/2 second boot times under the new Windows OS coming down the pipe.

Good stuff!


Built in Sections?


Any more details?


9/11/2012 8:42:40 AM EDT
[#23]
i just built a computer with one ssd for the boot drive...14.6 seconds to boot.
9/11/2012 8:43:53 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I built and new computer and I'm running Solid State Drives in it.

For those of you who have not used them they are well worth it.


I thought so also.

pros:
faster read/write access times
less power consumption
less heat generated
solid state / no moving spindle

cons:
cost
capacity
unknown long term reliability






9/11/2012 8:45:02 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.





Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.

 



If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.




My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.
9/11/2012 8:47:54 AM EDT
[#26]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    

If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.

My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.


Subnet, you're a computer nerd.  I mean that with the utmost respect - I like computer nerds.  But the fact is that you're a 1%er.

In the real world, people don't back up their stuff regularly.
9/11/2012 8:49:06 AM EDT
[#27]



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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.





Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    



If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.




My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.




Subnet, you're a computer nerd.  I mean that with the utmost respect - I like computer nerds.  But the fact is that you're a 1%er.



In the real world, people don't back up their stuff regularly.


I know.

 



There's really no excuse, though. Both Apple and Microsoft have made it brain dead easy, and unattended. You don't even have to think about it.
9/11/2012 8:53:22 AM EDT
[#28]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    

If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.

My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.


Subnet, you're a computer nerd.  I mean that with the utmost respect - I like computer nerds.  But the fact is that you're a 1%er.

In the real world, people don't back up their stuff regularly.


I actually "snapshot" my workstation drives to the server
then backup the server to an External HD that goes in the safe.

I can have my WS Back up and running from a bare HD in under 10 minutes.

I also take the unreplaceable stuff (family photos etc) and burn those to CD/DVD
A few minutes now saves a lot of heartache later.

9/11/2012 9:31:41 AM EDT
[#29]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


With modern backup cloud solutions, there is no excuse my man.
 


In addition to USB2/3 external 2 Terabyte drives for around $100 or less.

9/11/2012 9:31:50 AM EDT
[#30]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    

If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.

My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.


Subnet, you're a computer nerd.  I mean that with the utmost respect - I like computer nerds.  But the fact is that you're a 1%er.

In the real world, people don't back up their stuff regularly.

I know.    

There's really no excuse, though. Both Apple and Microsoft have made it brain dead easy, and unattended. You don't even have to think about it.


Please describe, because I'm tired of manually imaging my partitions every month.
9/11/2012 9:39:34 AM EDT
[#31]
Prices on SSDs have really dropped in the last couple of months.  I'm routinely seeing SATA-III SSD deals for close to 50 cents per gig.




 
9/11/2012 9:41:25 AM EDT
[#32]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    

If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.

My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.


We need to chat soon about your backup solutions.

I am not as close as you are (to within an hour of where you were pre-crash) and I don't know how to get there.
9/11/2012 9:43:51 AM EDT
[#33]

If you ever built a computer, you know what a singularly joyous sound that single beep is when he turns it on for the first time.

9/11/2012 9:46:41 AM EDT
[#34]
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If you ever built a computer, you know what a singularly joyous sound that single beep is when he turns it on for the first time.



And, if you built a whole bunch of them you know just how loud the silence is when it doesn't.

Kinda like the old saying: The 2 loudest sounds you'll ever hear are a bang when you need a click and click when you need a bang.
9/11/2012 9:47:12 AM EDT
[#35]
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If you ever built a computer, you know what a singularly joyous sound that single beep is when he turns it on for the first time.



And, if you built a whole bunch of them you know just how loud the silence is when it doesn't.

Kinda like the old saying: The 2 loudest sounds you'll ever hear are a bang when you need a click and click when you need a bang.


Been there, done that.
9/11/2012 9:48:01 AM EDT
[#36]
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There's really no excuse, though. Both Apple and Microsoft have made it brain dead easy, and unattended. You don't even have to think about it.


I have the Windows 7 image backup once a week on a separate removable hard drive.  I use Synctoy for the manual backups of select folders, when I remember.

Is there something better I should be doing?
9/11/2012 9:49:41 AM EDT
[#37]



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[/div][div]There's really no excuse, though. Both Apple and Microsoft have made it brain dead easy, and unattended. You don't even have to think about it. [/div][/div]



I have the Windows 7 image backup once a week on a separate removable hard drive.  I use Synctoy for the manual backups of select folders, when I remember.



Is there something better I should be doing?


Nah, that'll work. Synctoy is probably redundant, too. Just have Win7 do daily incrementals in addition to the weekly images, and don't worry about it.

 
9/11/2012 9:53:53 AM EDT
[#38]
Welcome to 2009.
9/11/2012 9:58:05 AM EDT
[#39]
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Welcome to 2009.



Actually I bought one before for my Milling machine computer but it was a slower one
since I was mostly just concerned about vibrations, on this build I wanted speed.

9/11/2012 9:58:51 AM EDT
[#40]



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If you ever built a computer, you know what a singularly joyous sound that single beep is when he turns it on for the first time.







And, if you built a whole bunch of them you know just how loud the silence is when it doesn't.



Kinda like the old saying: The 2 loudest sounds you'll ever hear are a bang when you need a click and click when you need a bang.


Either that or BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP....  

 
9/11/2012 10:01:37 AM EDT
[#41]
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Welcome to 2009.


Actually SSDs have been around since the 70s
9/11/2012 10:02:58 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
I built and new computer and I'm running Solid State Drives in it.

For those of you who have not used them they are well worth it.





I worked in the HDD industry for 10 years.

I have worked (and now work) in the SSD industry for the past 4.

Backup often, that is all I will say.  Reliebility is getting worse and worse as we reduce the size of the gates.

9/11/2012 10:03:02 AM EDT
[#43]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    

If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.

My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.


I hope you're running them as RAID 1 and not 0, as otherwise a loss of a single drive means total data loss.
9/11/2012 10:03:57 AM EDT
[#44]



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Quoted:

Welcome to 2009.




Actually SSDs have been around since the 70s
And have only recently become large enough and inexpensive enough to be viable for the consumer market.
 
9/11/2012 10:07:30 AM EDT
[#45]
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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.


Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    

If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.

My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.


I hope you're running them as RAID 1 and not 0, as otherwise a loss of a single drive means total data loss.


Alright, shouldn't have said total. But half your data, and you're not booting that OS.  
9/11/2012 10:07:33 AM EDT
[#46]
I've built 3 machines in the past year with SSD's as the OS drive.

2 out of the 3 have failed.  An OCZ and a SuperTalent failed.  The 3rd one that is still running, is the oldest which is odd.  It's also a SuperTalent, but I believe it's different than the one that failed.  It's also the only one running XP.

I'm done using them on workstations here at work, but I will probably use one for my next build at home.
9/11/2012 10:08:26 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
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I built and new computer and I'm running Solid State Drives in it.

For those of you who have not used them they are well worth it.





I worked in the HDD industry for 10 years.

I have worked (and now work) in the SSD industry for the past 4.

Backup often, that is all I will say.  Reliebility is getting worse and worse as we reduce the size of the gates.




Actually on my workstation I get it set exactly how I want it then take a snapshot of it.
No data is on the workstation only programs, I could have gone with smaller SSDs
but I wanted the higher speed (plus the extra room can't hurt).

But yes I do agree to backup any important stuff..... Often!

There are 10 types of people,  Those who have lost valuable data and those who will



9/11/2012 10:08:26 AM EDT
[#48]
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If you ever built a computer, you know what a singularly joyous sound that single beep is when he turns it on for the first time.



And, if you built a whole bunch of them you know just how loud the silence is when it doesn't.

Kinda like the old saying: The 2 loudest sounds you'll ever hear are a bang when you need a click and click when you need a bang.

Either that or BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP....    



I think you're supposed to hit the deck when you hear that.  
9/11/2012 10:10:17 AM EDT
[#49]



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I want one but I worry about failure.  At least with a mechanical drive you usually get the click of death before failure.  Let's be honest, almost no one backs up their data like they know they should.





Count me in the "almost no one" camp. My disaster recovery plan (assuming my house doesn't burn down) following a hard drive failure, has me back up and running in less than 30 minutes - to within an hour of where I was when the drive crashed.    



If my house burns down, it'll take about a day, depending on how much bandwidth I have.




My workstation at home is running two Intel SSD's in RAID 0. I don't give a shit if one dies, other than the ~$200 I'll be out.




I hope you're running them as RAID 1 and not 0, as otherwise a loss of a single drive means total data loss.


People keep telling me how stupid I am because I run my laptop with RAID 0 SSD's.



I just laugh and laugh.  



 
9/11/2012 10:13:08 AM EDT
[#50]
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There's really no excuse, though. Both Apple and Microsoft have made it brain dead easy, and unattended. You don't even have to think about it.


I have the Windows 7 image backup once a week on a separate removable hard drive.  I use Synctoy for the manual backups of select folders, when I remember.

Is there something better I should be doing?

Nah, that'll work. Synctoy is probably redundant, too. Just have Win7 do daily incrementals in addition to the weekly images, and don't worry about it.  


Thanks, that's good idea, I'll have to set up the daily incrementals, easier than remembering Synctoy.  

I'm hoping that my backup drive swaps can survive in a safe even during a fire.  Now that I think of it, I'm going to check Amazon for a mini firesafe to put into my safe.
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