Posted: 9/5/2012 9:49:26 PM EDT
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Do exactly what the law says. Sever communication with them except in writing and tell them why. Explain in writing exactly what you are willing to do (and not do) to help them. Cite the law from your ATF book. Ask the family if there is any way they can do this legally and quickly, as you'd like to wash your hands of the entire thing.
Good luck. Sorry I can't help more. I'm not an FFL, but I play one on TV |
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I guess I'm not seeing the problem. What am I missing?
A family member asked you to help sell some guns from an Estate. You said Yes. They asked you to hold off on the sale for 6 months, to make sure that everything was clear. You said OK. At four months, everything wasn't clear. They want the guns back. OK? What am I missing? Why don't you just give the guns back to the person who gave them to you, and say "Here you go!"? Why not let them deal with this? |
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So the ones who put you in charge of the guns now demand them back? They want them back so they can send them to someone else out of state?
Give the guns back and tell them that a private transfer is not allowed. If they proceed anyway, then that's their problem. Or did you transfer the guns to your FFL books? |
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Quoted: Short story: a family member from the wife's side had a relative die. Bunch of guns left behind, and he asked if I could sell them for the estate, since I am a FFL. Sure I said, and was told to hold for 6 months in case there are any claims on the estate. Fast foreword 4 months, and there is a claim. Now they want all of the guns back, and have threatened me 2 times, to give them back. The listed party is out of state, and is trying to get me to transfer illegally. I do not have enough money for an attorney, and only do the FFL thing as a side job. To top it off, apparently he has a police buddy, who is saying my practices are questionable, and his FFL friend has never herd of such a thing, of not being able to transfer out of state to private party. I am very pissed at the whole senecio, and about to turn over a listed firearms to the ATF to let them deal with it. Any help is appreciated.  Um... are we talking about two different parties here, or the same party that gave you the guns now wants them back? Because the latter would be simple, so I don't think that's the case. Who is the third party and what is their claim to this property? That's not really your problem in any case, so... whoever gave you those guns needs an attorney to deal with the claim, which includes said guns. IANAL, holiday inn, etc... |
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So the ones who put you in charge of the guns now demand them back? They want them back so they can send them to someone else out of state? Give the guns back and tell them that a private transfer is not allowed. If they proceed anyway, then that's their problem. Or did you transfer the guns to your FFL books? If you did this, just have the original in state resident fill out a 4473 and return the guns. I would charge a transfer fee for the aggravation. You need to get out of this deal lawfully so be careful. Remember, if you become aware of a straw purchase/transfer, I do not think you can legally release the guns. I hope you did not put them in your bound book. If I am wrong, someone will be here to correct me rather quickly. |
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Yup, 2 parties involved now. Both are out of state. The deceased is the only person in state. I have told them many time to send the FFL and money so I can transfer them. They think I am trying to screw them over, and want to drive and just pick them up. Fun for all. The second party is a total ass, and his attorney is a prick. I don't want to deal with either. If the person who gave them to me was in state, I would have given them back in a heart beat, but now he is getting screwed over bad also. Just to make it clear, they give me a FFL and the cash for transfer and shipping, I will send them out ASAP. But they don't want to play by those rules. The guns are junk, and I wouldn't want a single one of them.  Are there handguns involved or just long guns? If it's all long guns, I would tell them to come pick them up and make them do a 4473 when they get there. Otherwise you just have to hold your ground. Any lawyer they consult with is going to tell them they're idiots after reviewing the legal issues of an FFL transferring a gun out of state. They're not going to successfully sue you for not breaking the law to send them a firearm. |
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Yup, 2 parties involved now. Both are out of state. The deceased is the only person in state. I have told them many time to send the FFL and money so I can transfer them. They think I am trying to screw them over, and want to drive and just pick them up. Fun for all. The second party is a total ass, and his attorney is a prick. I don't want to deal with either. If the person who gave them to me was in state, I would have given them back in a heart beat, but now he is getting screwed over bad also. Just to make it clear, they give me a FFL and the cash for transfer and shipping, I will send them out ASAP. But they don't want to play by those rules. The guns are junk, and I wouldn't want a single one of them. Are there handguns involved or just long guns? If it's all long guns, I would tell them to come pick them up and make them do a 4473 when they get there. Otherwise you just have to hold your ground. Any lawyer they consult with is going to tell them they're idiots after reviewing the legal issues of an FFL transferring a gun out of state. They're not going to successfully sue you for not breaking the law to send them a firearm. This is my thought as well, just nice to here from someone else. Thank you. I am going to delete my replying and the op, for safety. |
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Yup, 2 parties involved now. Both are out of state. The deceased is the only person in state. I have told them many time to send the FFL and money so I can transfer them. They think I am trying to screw them over, and want to drive and just pick them up. Fun for all. The second party is a total ass, and his attorney is a prick. I don't want to deal with either. If the person who gave them to me was in state, I would have given them back in a heart beat, but now he is getting screwed over bad also. Just to make it clear, they give me a FFL and the cash for transfer and shipping, I will send them out ASAP. But they don't want to play by those rules. The guns are junk, and I wouldn't want a single one of them. Are there handguns involved or just long guns? If it's all long guns, I would tell them to come pick them up and make them do a 4473 when they get there. Otherwise you just have to hold your ground. Any lawyer they consult with is going to tell them they're idiots after reviewing the legal issues of an FFL transferring a gun out of state. They're not going to successfully sue you for not breaking the law to send them a firearm. This is my thought as well, just nice to here from someone else. Thank you. I am going to delete my replying and the op, for safety. A little late dont you think? |