Posted: 9/5/2012 11:31:53 AM EDT
I couldn't decide whether to put this in ARs or suppressors or what, so I just put it here. I finally got around to having my local smith thread an install a SF muzzle brake so's I could put my can on this rifle. I've had the can and the rifle for a while and I've had mounts installed on two other rifles but I just finally got around to this one. I think the brake looks pretty handsome on her. You like?
ETA: details Bushy lower with CMC 2 stage match trigger Armalite upper with Evolution 20" stainless barrel and PRI flip up BUIS Burris 3-9x40mm in a LaRue mount VTAC handguard with Harris bipod Surefire MB556AR and FA556AR |
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212 Can? I've got my Mini FDE waiting at my dealer for the ATF to give the go-ahead. The muzzle break, if anything like the 556k, will be annoying to anyone & everyone around you.  FA556AR (AKA M4FA) Nice. After thinking, I realized the 21 can wasn't an overlap, but yours clearly is. 
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How much for the can?  I got it second hand in a trade. I bought a Polytech underfolder for a steal at $419 + tax and then ended up trading the Polytech for the can. Great can but I wouldn't pay MSRP on it. Of course, I don't think anyone really pays MSRP anyway. |
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Quoted: Nice Brake. I need a couple more since our can has been discontinued.I couldn't decide whether to put this in ARs or suppressors or what, so I just put it here. I finally got around to having my local smith thread an install a SF muzzle brake so's I could put my can on this rifle. I've had the can and the rifle for a while and I've had mounts installed on two other rifles but I just finally got around to this one. I think the brake looks pretty handsome on her. You like? http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7167/dsc03698t.jpg http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/359/dsc03704ax.jpg ETA: details Bushy lower with CMC 2 stage match trigger Armalite upper with Evolution 20" stainless barrel and PRI flip up BUIS Burris 3-9x40mm in a LaRue mount VTAC handguard with Harris bipod Surefire MB556AR and FA556AR  |
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The FA556AR has nearly the best attachment system extant. Much better than AAC. The new Surfires did well to move the indexing pin but I'm not sure about how they ratchet. Overall, I'd consider the mount second to none. I'm just saying I can see how a person would consider the Gemtech or AAC method to be more convenient. |
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Nice Brake. I need a couple more since our can has been discontinued.I couldn't decide whether to put this in ARs or suppressors or what, so I just put it here. I finally got around to having my local smith thread an install a SF muzzle brake so's I could put my can on this rifle. I've had the can and the rifle for a while and I've had mounts installed on two other rifles but I just finally got around to this one. I think the brake looks pretty handsome on her. You like? http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7167/dsc03698t.jpg http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/359/dsc03704ax.jpg ETA: details Bushy lower with CMC 2 stage match trigger Armalite upper with Evolution 20" stainless barrel and PRI flip up BUIS Burris 3-9x40mm in a LaRue mount VTAC handguard with Harris bipod Surefire MB556AR and FA556AR
Me too. I hope SF continues to support it. I wonder if anyone else would be willing to fabricate one for a reasonable cost if SF stops making the mounts. |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet |
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Quoted: They're good at supporting discontinued items like my old 310r weapon light. I expect they'll be able to support the old suppressors for some time. I still want a couple extra brakes though just in case.Me too. I hope SF continues to support it. I wonder if anyone else would be willing to fabricate one for a reasonable cost if SF stops making the mounts. |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. |
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but I'm not sure about how they ratchet. What do you mean? One of the new SF's will be my next can. The little teeth on the stainless plate that the new model uses doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. I like them big old teeth. Time will tell, I have a 762K with the new locking ring but I haven't shot it yet. |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet- and hope the teeth haven't been rounded off  FIFY 
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. I have to say though, AAC's product marketing makes Gemtech look like your grandpas silencer co. Gemtech really needs to step it up in that area. |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. I have to say though, AAC's product marketing makes Gemtech look like your grandpas silencer co. Gemtech really needs to step it up in that area. Maybe they're more concerned about producing good products at a fair price than having six pages of Javascript and CSS on their web page. Flashy advertising just tells me that a significant portion of my purchase price is paying for me to like the product, not necessarily for a better product. |
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How much for the can? I got it second hand in a trade. I bought a Polytech underfolder for a steal at $419 + tax and then ended up trading the Polytech for the can. Great can but I wouldn't pay MSRP on it. Of course, I don't think anyone really pays MSRP anyway. my dealer comes in around $400 ETA closer to 300 below msrp on surefire. That's within ~$200 of the AAC cans. |
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212 Can? I've got my Mini FDE waiting at my dealer for the ATF to give the go-ahead. The muzzle break, if anything like the 556k, will be annoying to anyone & everyone around you. Everyone at the range WILL hate you if you run a 556k without a can on it. |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. I have to say though, AAC's product marketing makes Gemtech look like your grandpas silencer co. Gemtech really needs to step it up in that area. I know exactly who they need to hire. |
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212 Can? I've got my Mini FDE waiting at my dealer for the ATF to give the go-ahead. The muzzle break, if anything like the 556k, will be annoying to anyone & everyone around you. Everyone at the range WILL hate you if you run a 556k without a can on it. So I should get one for my 11.5"? 
It would be a great way to fuck with the retards who say that a centerfire rifle can offers no real benefit. |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. I have to say though, AAC's product marketing makes Gemtech look like your grandpas silencer co. Gemtech really needs to step it up in that area. Maybe they're more concerned about producing good products at a fair price than having six pages of Javascript and CSS on their web page. Flashy advertising just tells me that a significant portion of my purchase price is paying for me to like the product, not necessarily for a better product. Completely agree! But if you tell me you don't want one of their t-shirts, or that sticker (you know which one), I might have to call BS.
I almost went with an AAC can because of that. Then I realized how silly that was, but I would say you and I are the exception. I also have an Oasis-P. it's easily my favorite gun, as well as every single person I take shooting. They can't get enough of it. |
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How much for the can? I got it second hand in a trade. I bought a Polytech underfolder for a steal at $419 + tax and then ended up trading the Polytech for the can. Great can but I wouldn't pay MSRP on it. Of course, I don't think anyone really pays MSRP anyway. my dealer comes in around $400 below msrp on surefire. That's within $200 of the AAC cans. PM me his info please? |
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Quoted: So I should get one for my 11.5"? It would be a great way to fuck with the retards who say that a centerfire rifle can offers no real benefit. I couldn't find one for the 11.5 but if you can get one get it. Wrath of God loud. I clear the line to either side of me when shooting the 12.5 without suppressor. Rattles their teeth.  |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. I have to say though, AAC's product marketing makes Gemtech look like your grandpas silencer co. Gemtech really needs to step it up in that area. Maybe they're more concerned about producing good products at a fair price than having six pages of Javascript and CSS on their web page. Flashy advertising just tells me that a significant portion of my purchase price is paying for me to like the product, not necessarily for a better product. Completely agree! But if you tell me you don't want one of their t-shirts, or that sticker (you know which one), I might have to call BS.
I almost went with an AAC can because of that. Then I realized how silly that was, but I would say you and I are the exception. I also have an Oasis-P. it's easily my favorite gun, as well as every single person I take shooting. They can't get enough of it. This. I love their logo (crossed guns, specifically), and I even grabbed their water bottle with that logo on it. But I'm pretty set on a Surefire can. |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. I have to say though, AAC's product marketing makes Gemtech look like your grandpas silencer co. Gemtech really needs to step it up in that area. Maybe they're more concerned about producing good products at a fair price than having six pages of Javascript and CSS on their web page. Flashy advertising just tells me that a significant portion of my purchase price is paying for me to like the product, not necessarily for a better product. Completely agree! But if you tell me you don't want one of their t-shirts, or that sticker (you know which one), I might have to call BS.
I almost went with an AAC can because of that. Then I realized how silly that was, but I would say you and I are the exception. I also have an Oasis-P. it's easily my favorite gun, as well as every single person I take shooting. They can't get enough of it. I am seriously considering a TiRant for my next can and not just so's I can rock this: 
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How much for the can? I got it second hand in a trade. I bought a Polytech underfolder for a steal at $419 + tax and then ended up trading the Polytech for the can. Great can but I wouldn't pay MSRP on it. Of course, I don't think anyone really pays MSRP anyway. my dealer comes in around $400 below msrp on surefire. That's within $200 of the AAC cans. PM me his info please? pm sent |
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Nice, but I like my G5. Can't beat the attachment system. I can see how it might be slightly faster and easier than the Surefire system, but how is it better than the AAC system? G5: push down, 1/4 twist, done AAC: ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet Ratchet Gotcha. I have to say though, AAC's product marketing makes Gemtech look like your grandpas silencer co. Gemtech really needs to step it up in that area. Maybe they're more concerned about producing good products at a fair price than having six pages of Javascript and CSS on their web page. Flashy advertising just tells me that a significant portion of my purchase price is paying for me to like the product, not necessarily for a better product. Completely agree! But if you tell me you don't want one of their t-shirts, or that sticker (you know which one), I might have to call BS.
I almost went with an AAC can because of that. Then I realized how silly that was, but I would say you and I are the exception. I also have an Oasis-P. it's easily my favorite gun, as well as every single person I take shooting. They can't get enough of it. I am seriously considering a TiRant for my next can and not just so's I can rock this: http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/2/f75a766a834c134c8ef389c6c6f9f805/l.jpg Bingo! Hahaha! I'm probably going to go with an AAC can for a handgun too. |
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Paper just came back for my FA556AR It's worth buying another can just to get that phone call. What a great feeling! Actually I got 2 at the same time, also got a AAC 7.62SDN6 The shopping isn't over yet! Nice! 
I only have 2, but I bought them together. I want a .22 can next, and something for 9mm or .45 Probably 9mm...idk |
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Didnt the surefire rep say the 212 and 762K were going to continue to be made in small numbers and that the muzzle devices would continue production? I seem to recall that in the CTD thread announcing the new cans.
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Quoted: I read somewhere they're supposed to have less blowback and the Surefire M4FA or FA556AR added only 3.75" to barrel length over the K or 212s 4". I couldn't tell much difference shooting the FA556AR and the 212 side by side in sound or blowback. Apparently the end mount cans are as good or better as Surefire discontinued the overlap designed FA556AR late last year or early this year.Quoted: Is there any advantage to the "over-lap" design Always wondered this as well. ETA: The end mount cans have a better locking ring design. |
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Is there any advantage to the "over-lap" design ? If I remember correctly, length behind the muzzle is 70% less effective than the same length in front of the muzzle. So yes, there is a benefit but as far as reducing overall length, that benefit is minimal. I'm told that reflex cans tend to have less back pressure but I don't really have much to compare it to. |