[ARCHIVED THREAD] - GMC=Obama (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/3/2012 6:00:29 PM EDT
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I just saw a commercial that suggested a Malibu was better than a Toyota.
No wonder the Crybaby-in Chief bailed out/bought GM, they both are lying sacks of shit that peddle same. 
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even. 
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
It's actually more about you and the bullshit you spew about Obama Motors junk. |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
It's actually more about you and the bullshit you spew about Obama Motors junk. What bullshit ? |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
It's actually more about you and the bullshit you spew about Obama Motors junk. What bullshit ? Everything you post about Obama Motors junk, that bullshit. You are a GM dealer, right. |
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Ride was smoother in the Malibu I rented with many more creature comforts, however the I4 was anemic compared to a comparable Toyota engine. Probably weight had a lot to do with it. I think the Japs are getting a bit behind on interior quality. At least they make door handles that actually work 
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Politics aside, anyone that thinks ANY GM product is on par or better than Toyota from a reliability, resale or customer service point of view is just not a serious person. While the current model Malibu *might* offer a better purchased value over the current model Camry; the long-term cost of ownership is nowhere close, historical data points don't support the GM.
Case in point, the new Jeep Grand Cherokees are a very nice looking package and I'm sure they're much better than my '04 but given my experience with the brand and model those 9 yrs of 'improvement' wouldn't give me a reason to entertain a new model. The only one of the 'Big 3' that is remotely close to parity with Toyota in terms of reliability and low cost of ownership is Ford; and even then that's iffy depending on the model in question.Even *if* GM hadn't been 'bailed out,' bondholders screwed and a very close relationship with the administration I still wouldn't buy one due to their quality and historical performance, (especially in cars.) |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
It's actually more about you and the bullshit you spew about Obama Motors junk. What bullshit ? Everything you post about Obama Motors junk, that bullshit. You are a GM dealer, right. Yes I'm a GM dealer. I have yet to see an Obama Motors dealer. Maybe he will open one up when he gets thrown out of Washington. But I digress, please quote the bullshit that you feel I am spewing. |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
It's actually more about you and the bullshit you spew about Obama Motors junk. What bullshit ? Everything you post about Obama Motors junk, that bullshit. You are a GM dealer, right. Yes I'm a GM dealer. I have yet to see an Obama Motors dealer. Maybe he will open one up when he gets thrown out of Washington. But I digress, please quote the bullshit that you feel I am spewing. Anything you say positive about an Obama Motors product, that bullshit. |
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Honestly, I wouldn't pass on a cheap used Chevy truck but that's about it.
Stepdad has a '04 Sierra 4x2 that has over 180,000 on it and has been used to haul and tow lots of stuff. That thing still rides great and has tons of power. I wouldn't mind having that truck when he's done with it. I will never buy a brand new GM vehicle though. |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
It's actually more about you and the bullshit you spew about Obama Motors junk. What bullshit ? Everything you post about Obama Motors junk, that bullshit. You are a GM dealer, right. Yes I'm a GM dealer. I have yet to see an Obama Motors dealer. Maybe he will open one up when he gets thrown out of Washington. But I digress, please quote the bullshit that you feel I am spewing. Anything you say positive about an Obama Motors product, that bullshit. One more time. Can you prove it please ? |
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Quoted: Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. ... I agree The new Cadillacs are fantastic cars, just got myself a new one - they Rock! (Mama gettin ready for her first spin)  |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Or at Toyota dealer FWIW. What does Canada have to do with it, or is that just a personal jibe ?
It's actually more about you and the bullshit you spew about Obama Motors junk. What bullshit ? Everything you post about Obama Motors junk, that bullshit. You are a GM dealer, right. Yes I'm a GM dealer. I have yet to see an Obama Motors dealer. Maybe he will open one up when he gets thrown out of Washington. But I digress, please quote the bullshit that you feel I am spewing. Anything you say positive about an Obama Motors product, that bullshit. One more time. Can you prove it please ? One more time, it's right there for everyone to see. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: nested quote dogpile Yes I'm a GM dealer. I have yet to see an Obama Motors dealer. Maybe he will open one up when he gets thrown out of Washington. But I digress, please quote the bullshit that you feel I am spewing. Anything you say positive about an Obama Motors product, that bullshit. One more time. Can you prove it please ? One more time, it's right there for everyone to see. How about we interrupt this purse-swinging match with some facts that are actually relevant to the OP. GM is running ads saying that the new Malibu is somehow better than the Camry. Here is a lengthy but interesting Forbes article which breaks down Car and Driver's testing of cars in that class, and found that not only is the 2013 Malibu at the bottom of its class, but that it was actually out-scored in the same tests by the previous generation Malibu. This article was discussed here a few weeks ago. |
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 Ah, poor baby. With all due respect to Arfcom, I refuse to deal with your ignorance and lack thereof backing up your own statements. Geez, my statements are verified by what others have posted in this thread. You are a dealer and are gonna say whatever it takes to sell that junk. It is not I who is the ignorant one. Go look in a mirror. |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Malibu ranked dead last in 6 car comparison. 
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Quoted: How about we interrupt this purse-swinging match with some facts that are actually relevant to the OP. GM is running ads saying that the new Malibu is somehow better than the Camry. Here is a lengthy but interesting Forbes article which breaks down Car and Driver's testing of cars in that class, and found that not only is the 2013 Malibu at the bottom of its class, but that it was actually out-scored in the same tests by the previous generation Malibu. This article was discussed here a few weeks ago. As if I needed another nail in the coffin, that commercial was it. Also someone defending a product that they sell should be expected. Obviously that person is biased, you can't expect him to trash his livelihood. "I sell GM, but you should really buy a Toyota." C'mon now. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Malibu ranked dead last in 6 car comparison. Car and Driver be trollin'. AND Racists!! |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Yes, telling people to make their own decisions is clearly a sign that they are biased. Edit: Actually, in this case it was.
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I rode in a 2012 Passat SE TDI on a 40 mile each way freeway trip this weekend, and I was impressed. It may or may not have been owned by someone posting in this thread.
At one point 47 mpg, in an incredibly comfortable vehicle with great fit and finish, built in Tennessee. Where's the SD card slot in the Malbu? How about Bluetooth audio? Or 47 mpg? Can a 5'10" dude cross his legs in the rear seat of a Malibu with the front seat situated for a big and tall person? Oh...wait. |
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The GM bailout was about bailing out Obammy's union buddies more than anything else. I've always owned GM cars but now I'd buy a KIA before a .gov motors product. I agree. Most KIAs that I see are in significantly better shape than comparable GM vehicles. |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Yes, telling people to make their own decisions is clearly a sign that they are biased. Nah, a dealer wouldn't be biased.
See my edit.
I posted before reading the whole thread. I again apologize. |
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Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. Spoken like a true GM dealer. In Canada even.
Yes, telling people to make their own decisions is clearly a sign that they are biased. Nah, a dealer wouldn't be biased.
See my edit.
I posted before reading the whole thread. I again apologize. I had deleted mine after you had edited yours. 
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How about we interrupt this purse-swinging match with some facts that are actually relevant to the OP. GM is running ads saying that the new Malibu is somehow better than the Camry. Here is a lengthy but interesting Forbes article which breaks down Car and Driver's testing of cars in that class, and found that not only is the 2013 Malibu at the bottom of its class, but that it was actually out-scored in the same tests by the previous generation Malibu. This article was discussed here a few weeks ago. As if I needed another nail in the coffin, that commercial was it. Also someone defending a product that they sell should be expected. Obviously that person is biased, you can't expect him to trash his livelihood. "I sell GM, but you should really buy a Toyota." C'mon now.
Thanks for the kind words. I sell mostly used units and brand loyalty is not of a real concern. That being said, GM,Ford and BMW badges adorn our driveway. As for Toyota, I simply stated to go take one for a drive and make your own conclusions. I've owned several over the years, some are good, some not so good. Same thing goes with every auto maker in the world. |
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Ride was smoother in the Malibu I rented with many more creature comforts, however the I4 was anemic compared to a comparable Toyota engine. Probably weight had a lot to do with it. I think the Japs are getting a bit behind on interior quality. At least they make door handles that actually work My Dodge has been known to keep the interior panel of the door locked in while the metal frame swings open.
Happened on a date.
After reading some of the challenger forums about the various issues with that vehicle, not suprised. I believe there is a recall on the '11 or '12 model year door handles. |
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Ride was smoother in the Malibu I rented with many more creature comforts, however the I4 was anemic compared to a comparable Toyota engine. Probably weight had a lot to do with it. I think the Japs are getting a bit behind on interior quality. At least they make door handles that actually work The outside door handles on Corollas are a very common failure point. |
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Quoted: I thought the bailout was about supporting what remains of American heavy industry. For the 4th year in a row, Toyota claims the most American made car on the market. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/07/04/carscom-says-most-american-car-is-toyota/ Buy American, Buy Toyota, and Fuck UAW. |
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I thought the bailout was about supporting what remains of American heavy industry. For the 4th year in a row, Toyota claims the most American made car on the market. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/07/04/carscom-says-most-american-car-is-toyota/ Buy American, Buy Toyota, and Fuck UAW. Or buy a Passat, made in a non-union right to work state. |
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Quoted: Take one , or both for a test drive and make your own conclusions rather than spouting off about something you read on the internet and using it to troll with. I don't need to sprinkle Tabasco and cinnamon on an turd to make it palatable. And even if it could pass the taste test I still know that it's an asshole that made it... |
