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8/24/2012 4:46:44 PM EDT
Buddy is a cop. His grandfather gave a few guns. This one has no serial number or marks that I can ID.

It's a .32 caliber top break.

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Only markings.

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8/24/2012 4:50:08 PM EDT
[#1]
The markings look Belgian.  Lots of companies made those, not sure which one that would be.  It's most likely chambered in .32 S&W.
8/24/2012 4:51:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Maybe a webley judging from the proof? Not too familiar with guns of that era though.
8/24/2012 4:53:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Pic of the other side?
 
8/24/2012 4:54:48 PM EDT
[#4]
da deagle dat needz da beams?

Sorry, I have nothing.  Looks neat though.
8/24/2012 4:55:02 PM EDT
[#5]
Looks like an old H&R to me. My friend's dad has a collection of old break over 32s and 38s dating back to the 1880s. He has several of the H&Rs as well as Iver Johnsons, S&Ws, etc.
H&R had the weird hammers like that I believe. Can't really say it's an H&R for sure though.
8/24/2012 4:56:04 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


The markings look Belgian.  Lots of companies made those, not sure which one that would be.  It's most likely .32 S&W.


I agree, the proof mark is most likely from Belgium.



 
8/24/2012 4:57:01 PM EDT
[#7]
Merwin, Hulbert & Co ?
 
8/24/2012 5:14:06 PM EDT
[#8]
Well. At least its not a pin fired.

Here is my info and links on the markings.


http://archery.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=287155
8/24/2012 5:25:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Merwin, Hulbert & Co ?  


The grips are, but those were US made pistols.

8/24/2012 5:27:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Iver Johnson and Cycle Works?

Mine looks just like it but it is hammerless.
8/24/2012 5:28:27 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Merwin, Hulbert & Co ?  




The grips are, but those were US made pistols.





yeah, that proof is definitely Belgian



 
8/24/2012 5:31:44 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Iver Johnson and Cycle Works?

Mine looks just like it but it is hammerless.


Those were well marked (mine is stamped Iver Johnson and Cycle Works on the rib on top of the barrel) and have the owls head on the grip.
8/24/2012 5:38:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Proofmark (extra load)





The Star with two letters is the inspector

Take the grips off. Look inside the frame for manufacturer markings. This will include the gunsmith, and designer himself.

Also check this site when you find the initials

http://www.littlegun.be/

This is the English side.

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/a%20a%20site%20belge%20gb.htm

Identified Engravers

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/a%20a%20artisans%20identifies%20gb.htm

Unidentified Engravers

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/a%20a%20artisans%20non%20identifies%20gb.htm
8/24/2012 7:26:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Proofmark (extra load)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/TractorDre/Pepperbox/Proofmarkextraload.jpg



The Star with two letters is the inspector

Take the grips off. Look inside the frame for manufacturer markings. This will include the gunsmith, and designer himself.

Also check this site when you find the initials

http://www.littlegun.be/

This is the English side.

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/a%20a%20site%20belge%20gb.htm

Identified Engravers

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/a%20a%20artisans%20identifies%20gb.htm

Unidentified Engravers

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/a%20a%20artisans%20non%20identifies%20gb.htm


Thank you. That looks like a great lead.
8/25/2012 12:28:32 PM EDT
[#15]
No problem.