[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Chick-fil-A .....my view (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 8/1/2012 8:10:03 PM EDT
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Right now there a lot of silly butt hurt in the LGBT and supporters over Dan T. Cathy's statements about gay marriage. Mr Cathy's views on gay marriage or gays in general are his right. And if he wants to donate money to anti gay groups...that's his right too. Of course I don't agree with him and that's my right. But to be honest I'm not losing any sleep over Chick-fil-A or it's presidents views and opinions. Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time.....I'm way happier about Amazon's support of gay marriage.
Also I'm sure that this swell of support for Chik-fil-A is seen as a blow to gay rights by both gay supporters and anti gay groups. Sorry folks but this just pointed what I already knew.....the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. Look at all the State with gay marriage AND civil union bans. Gay marriage will never be public supported, hell if you put it to a national vote they have the soddomy laws back. The only way gay marriage will happen nationally is by Supreme court ruling. So that where the LGBT needs to put it's efforts, not screwing around with business. |
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I dont agree with gay marriage but my personal view is most gays are born that way. Every gay I know, which is 5 or 6, were gay as little kids.. In my opinion it is a genetic mix up... Thats just my opinion. I personally think that religious people will have some type of enemy no matter what.. |
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Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time..... Perhaps a waste of time, but certainly not stupid. I wont eat at chick-fil-a out of principal, in a similar fashion of how I will not support companies that donate to the brady campaign. You have every right to think whatever you want with your money, but I'm not going to let you use my own money, in the form of profits, to support something that I don't agree with. I'm sure it happens all the time without me knowing, but I avoid it whenever I can. |
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I don't see the support as necessarily anti gay. I see it as support for a business whose CEO made an anti pc statement and was demonized for it in the MSM. It's a protest against anti government involvement / anti free speech. Not anti gay. I'd like to think it's really like that but that's no what I saw at Chick-Fil-A today. Just a bunch of hillbillies patting themselves on the back and promoting more government interference in our lives. |
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Right now there a lot of silly butt hurt in the LGBT and supporters over Dan T. Cathy's statements about gay marriage. Mr Cathy's views on gay marriage or gays in general are his right. And if he wants to donate money to anti gay groups...that's his right too. Of course I don't agree with him and that's my right. But to be honest I'm not losing any sleep over Chick-fil-A or it's presidents views and opinions. Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time.....I'm way happier about Amazon's support of gay marriage. Also I'm sure that this swell of support for Chik-fil-A is seen as a blow to gay rights by both gay supporters and anti gay groups. Sorry folks but this just pointed what I already knew.....the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. Look at all the State with gay marriage AND civil union bans. Gay marriage will never be public supported, hell if you put it to a national vote they have the soddomy laws back. The only way gay marriage will happen nationally is by Supreme court ruling. So that where the LGBT needs to put it's efforts, not screwing around with business. Can i use this? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I don't see the support as necessarily anti gay. I see it as support for a business whose CEO made an anti pc statement and was demonized for it in the MSM. It's a protest against anti government involvement / anti free speech. Not anti gay. I'd like to think it's really like that but that's no what I saw at Chick-Fil-A today. Just a bunch of hillbillies patting themselves on the back and promoting more government interference in our lives. This is only the way I see. I've been wrong before.  |
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Great post, OP.
Personally I don't have anything against gays or gay marriage. I have a problem with liberals like Rahm Emmanuel and Thomas Menino saying I shouldn't eat there, and with their agent provocateurs trying to drive business away from CFA My eating both lunch and dinner there today, despite a bit of a wait, is my FU to them. I know I don't speak for everyone. |
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Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time..... Perhaps a waste of time, but certainly not stupid. I wont eat at chick-fil-a out of principal, in a similar fashion of how I will not support companies that donate to the brady campaign. You have every right to think whatever you want with your money, but I'm not going to let you use my own money, in the form of profits, to support something that I don't agree with. I'm sure it happens all the time without me knowing, but I avoid it whenever I can. Not spending money with a company or group that is against you is fine.......I don't eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream or Chik-fil-A. |
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Right now there a lot of silly butt hurt in the LGBT and supporters over Dan T. Cathy's statements about gay marriage. Mr Cathy's views on gay marriage or gays in general are his right. And if he wants to donate money to anti gay groups...that's his right too. Of course I don't agree with him and that's my right. But to be honest I'm not losing any sleep over Chick-fil-A or it's presidents views and opinions. Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time.....I'm way happier about Amazon's support of gay marriage. Also I'm sure that this swell of support for Chik-fil-A is seen as a blow to gay rights by both gay supporters and anti gay groups. Sorry folks but this just pointed what I already knew.....the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. Look at all the State with gay marriage AND civil union bans. Gay marriage will never be public supported, hell if you put it to a national vote they have the soddomy laws back. The only way gay marriage will happen nationally is by Supreme court ruling. So that where the LGBT needs to put it's efforts, not screwing around with business. Can i use this? Go for it........I'm already in the doghouse at home over this.
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I was looking forward to your input on this as I always respected your opinion and level thought.
You a couple of years ago agreed with a point I made about the BSA and their ban on gays in the organization. Thank you for your input sir and I do agree with your post. Now if we could only get this kind of support on a regular basis for smaller and less intrusive government. I know it takes effort and time and the .gov is one huge ugly gorilla. |
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I don't see the support as necessarily anti gay. I see it as support for a business whose CEO made an anti pc statement and was demonized for it in the MSM. It's a protest against anti government involvement / anti free speech. Not anti gay. exactly, private business owner sates his beliefs, the .gov can eat one if they don like it |
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Right now there a lot of silly butt hurt in the LGBT and supporters over Dan T. Cathy's statements about gay marriage. Mr Cathy's views on gay marriage or gays in general are his right. And if he wants to donate money to anti gay groups...that's his right too. Of course I don't agree with him and that's my right. But to be honest I'm not losing any sleep over Chick-fil-A or it's presidents views and opinions. Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time.....I'm way happier about Amazon's support of gay marriage. Also I'm sure that this swell of support for Chik-fil-A is seen as a blow to gay rights by both gay supporters and anti gay groups. Sorry folks but this just pointed what I already knew.....the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. Look at all the State with gay marriage AND civil union bans. Gay marriage will never be public supported, hell if you put it to a national vote they have the soddomy laws back. The only way gay marriage will happen nationally is by Supreme court ruling. So that where the LGBT needs to put it's efforts, not screwing around with business. Can i use this? Go for it........I'm already in the doghouse at home over this.
At least you have internet in your dog house. My doghouse is 125 miles away and only has dial up. |
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You can thank guys like this for the dust up. http://dcxposed.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/emanuel-terrorist.jpg Oh gee...another pot stirring politico I'm shocked. |
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OP has the right to marry a woman and be as miserable as the rest of us. Same sex marriage? What's next - a man and his goat? Marriage and the benefits associated with it is about family values. Sexual urges to be with the same sex, corpses, animals, children, etc. have nothing to do with the institution. . |
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Originally Posted By StonerStudent: Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Originally Posted By StonerStudent: the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. <snip> Gay marriage will never be public supported I actually agree with both of these statements. But logically, I'm having a problem reconciling this in my head. What are the socioeconomic factors that would drive a big company, say such as Homo Depot, to go against what both society at large, and the majority of it's customer base believes? |
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Quoted: Originally Posted By StonerStudent: Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Originally Posted By StonerStudent: the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. <snip> Gay marriage will never be public supported I actually agree with both of these statements. But logically, I'm having a problem reconciling this in my head. What are the socioeconomic factors that would drive a big company, say such as Homo Depot, to go against what both society at large, and the majority of it's customer base believes? Good press is fleeting. Bad press sticks with you a long time. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By StonerStudent: Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Originally Posted By StonerStudent: the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. <snip> Gay marriage will never be public supported I actually agree with both of these statements. But logically, I'm having a problem reconciling this in my head. What are the socioeconomic factors that would drive a big company, say such as Homo Depot, to go against what both society at large, and the majority of it's customer base believes? Good press is fleeting. Bad press sticks with you a long time. But if everyone in America hates fags wouldn't Homo Depot giving them support be *bad* press? |
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Right now there a lot of silly butt hurt in the LGBT and supporters over Dan T. Cathy's statements about gay marriage. I don't post much, but, I just want to thank you for your perspective/input into this matter. I am a straight, married, family man, but, have very close, gay friends and these issues are important to me. I don't always have the greatest perspective into the LGBT community as it pertains to the conservative lifestyle and all of the opinions of folks who straddle the gay/conservative line are valuable to me. 
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Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Originally Posted By StonerStudent:
the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. <snip> Gay marriage will never be public supported I actually agree with both of these statements. But logically, I'm having a problem reconciling this in my head. What are the socioeconomic factors that would drive a big company, say such as Homo Depot, to go against what both society at large, and the majority of it's customer base believes? Good press is fleeting. Bad press sticks with you a long time. So a minority of people will quickly forget, and the majority won't? Still doesn't make sense. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By StonerStudent: Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Originally Posted By StonerStudent: the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. <snip> Gay marriage will never be public supported I actually agree with both of these statements. But logically, I'm having a problem reconciling this in my head. What are the socioeconomic factors that would drive a big company, say such as Homo Depot, to go against what both society at large, and the majority of it's customer base believes? Good press is fleeting. Bad press sticks with you a long time. But if everyone in America hates fags wouldn't Homo Depot giving them support be *bad* press? Nope. It's done pretty much on the down low. Ever see a news report about Home Depot supporting a gay pride parade? In the corporate world, no news can often mean good news. I guarantee the minute the would say they are against it, it'd be splashed all over the news. |
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Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time..... Perhaps a waste of time, but certainly not stupid. I wont eat at chick-fil-a out of principal, in a similar fashion of how I will not support companies that donate to the brady campaign. You have every right to think whatever you want with your money, but I'm not going to let you use my own money, in the form of profits, to support something that I don't agree with. I'm sure it happens all the time without me knowing, but I avoid it whenever I can. Not spending money with a company or group that is against you is fine.......I don't eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream or Chik-fil-A. Not even Chunky Monkey? C'mon.... |
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I don't see the support as necessarily anti gay. I see it as support for a business whose CEO made an anti pc statement and was demonized for it in the MSM. It's a protest against anti government involvement / anti free speech. Not anti gay. Well said, this is the exact reason I've been going to CFA more the past few days. It has nothing to do with gay marriage or homosexuals one way or another for me. What two consenting adults do is none of my business imo. |
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Funny how the liberals always want acceptance and tolerance. Where are these virtues when I disagree and don't want my tax dollars supporting their beliefs? Sleep with who the fuck you want to but don't ask me to like it or pay for it. Liberals are the disease that infects this great country. I don't give a rats ass about the Chicken place. If you don't like the policies then don't patronize the business. That is the American way.
ETA: I eat at Chickafila often and I will continue to do so. My right as an American. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By StonerStudent: Right now there are more big companies that support gays then don't. Originally Posted By StonerStudent: the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. <snip> Gay marriage will never be public supported I actually agree with both of these statements. But logically, I'm having a problem reconciling this in my head. What are the socioeconomic factors that would drive a big company, say such as Homo Depot, to go against what both society at large, and the majority of it's customer base believes? Good press is fleeting. Bad press sticks with you a long time. But if everyone in America hates fags wouldn't Homo Depot giving them support be *bad* press? How often do you see national news covering a company supporting homosexuals? A majority of Americans may be against homosexual marriage but not enough to boycott a company and affect their daily life. Hell a lot of people probably don't even know that a lot of companies support homosexual marriage and only care when a company is being attacked for sharing their beliefs
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Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time..... Perhaps a waste of time, but certainly not stupid. I wont eat at chick-fil-a out of principal, in a similar fashion of how I will not support companies that donate to the brady campaign. You have every right to think whatever you want with your money, but I'm not going to let you use my own money, in the form of profits, to support something that I don't agree with. I'm sure it happens all the time without me knowing, but I avoid it whenever I can. Not spending money with a company or group that is against you is fine.......I don't eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream or Chik-fil-A. Not even Chunky Monkey? C'mon.... I miss my Chunky Monkey...... 
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How often do you see national news covering a company supporting homosexuals? A majority of Americans may be against homosexual marriage but not enough to boycott a company and affect their daily life. Hell a lot of people probably don't even know that a lot of companies support homosexual marriage and only care when a company is being attacked for sharing their beliefs [/div]
The anti gay groups boycott pro gay companies all the time......they tried tanking Homo depot a couple times. |
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I don't and can't support gay marriage. I don't support "legal", government control marriage.
If 2 men and 5 women marry together, and produce 25 children, I am fine with it, as long as they pay their own way. Unfortunately, our country is a bit backwards today. We give benefits and tax cuts for children, when they actually cost society money. We need to stop the promotion of cranking out babies. Have them if you can afford them, don't if you can't. Pretty simple. |
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Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time..... Perhaps a waste of time, but certainly not stupid. I wont eat at chick-fil-a out of principal, in a similar fashion of how I will not support companies that donate to the brady campaign. You have every right to think whatever you want with your money, but I'm not going to let you use my own money, in the form of profits, to support something that I don't agree with. I'm sure it happens all the time without me knowing, but I avoid it whenever I can. Not spending money with a company or group that is against you is fine.......I don't eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream or Chik-fil-A. Not even Chunky Monkey? C'mon.... I miss my Chunky Monkey......
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Protesting Chik-fil-A is both stupid and a waste of time..... Perhaps a waste of time, but certainly not stupid. I wont eat at chick-fil-a out of principal, in a similar fashion of how I will not support companies that donate to the brady campaign. You have every right to think whatever you want with your money, but I'm not going to let you use my own money, in the form of profits, to support something that I don't agree with. I'm sure it happens all the time without me knowing, but I avoid it whenever I can. Not spending money with a company or group that is against you is fine.......I don't eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream or Chik-fil-A. Not even Chunky Monkey? C'mon.... I miss my Chunky Monkey......
Why no to Ben & Jerry's? At one time they donated a bunch of money to Brady.....I have heard they got bought by someone else, so maybe they don't still. |
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[div]How often do you see national news covering a company supporting homosexuals? A majority of Americans may be against homosexual marriage but not enough to boycott a company and affect their daily life. Hell a lot of people probably don't even know that a lot of companies support homosexual marriage and only care when a company is being attacked for sharing their beliefs The anti gay groups boycott pro gay companies all the time......they tried tanking Homo depot a couple times. Really? I've never heard of that. I honestly can't imagine ANY national company, which NEEDS to appeal to a wide cross section of society, being willing to financially support ANY controversial cause. It makes zero sense to me. 
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| I'm just a little upset over the fact that the gays demand my tolerance of their choices and opinions but don't think they need to be tolerant of my choices and opinions. What their doing I feel is immature, pointless and a huge waste of time. So someone doesn't agree with your lifestyle. Get over it. Grow up. Not to mention all this debacle is just pissing people off and making that chicken joint millions. |
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As I've mentioned in a previous thread on the same topic, earlier today, I know several lesbians (no, there will be no pics, I keep those for personal use! :-) ) and several gay acquaintances, none of whom are pushy over the whole "marriage" thing, they simply want the same rights as a married couple, and I fully support that. I believe we need to be careful with the moral fabric in the country today, with the dems, in particular the Kenyan fucktard, trying to divide us, and if we continue to give up tradition, and beliefs (based on religion or otherwise) then we're done!
I'm very tolerant of other people and the choices they make, and their beliefs and opinions, and I'd expect nothing less of people being tolerant of me, unfortunately we have these rabid ideologues in the LGBT community that love to rub against the grain, not because they take real issue with something, only because they enjoy doing so, and these are the same people who preach tolerance, yet are the least tolerant of others, and those are the same people pushing this crap, and of course you get the libtards on board because they're all about a "cause", and political correctness, because god forbid you don't agree with gay marriage, you're surely a bigot for thinking that way if you don't! We need to step the fuck back, take a deep breath and start treating each other the way we want to be treated, and understand that not everyone will agree! |
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Quoted: Quoted: How often do you see national news covering a company supporting homosexuals? A majority of Americans may be against homosexual marriage but not enough to boycott a company and affect their daily life. Hell a lot of people probably don't even know that a lot of companies support homosexual marriage and only care when a company is being attacked for sharing their beliefs The anti gay groups boycott pro gay companies all the time......they tried tanking Homo depot a couple times.[/div] Yes some Americans do boycott the companies over their support for homosecual marriage but that's not the majority of Americans. Most Americans probably aren't even aware that Home Depot supports it. I didn't know about them or Amazon until I saw this thread and I am better informed on major issues than most Americans. Plus the average American is lazy and hates inconveniences. Boycotting Home depot would require they make an effort to go to another home improvement store and you pesky queers aren't worth that much trouble [div] [/div] [div]ETA You never hear anyone boycotting Miller Brewing for supporting the gay pride festival in Cali that had the Last Supper picture a couple of years ago. That is worse than supporting gay marriage[/div] |
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While I'm sure there were some people there supporting Mr.Cathy's first amendment rights, I believe today was a huge anti-gay statement. The useful idiots of the right came out in droves.
I also think it's bullshit that the left even made this an issue. The man has the right to whatever opinions he wants and local governments meddling in his business is something that should have attention brought to it. I must be the lunatic fringe. |
At the two locations in and around Tucson that I visited (near the Tucson Mall and El Con) ity was standing room only, the drive tru window was out to the street and the line was almost around the building on both places. Bought three sandwiches, large fries and large shake and chatted with the crowd, including an Orthodox Priest from the nearby parish, the mood was lively and almost festive. It was great. 
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I don't see the support as necessarily anti gay. I see it as support for a business whose CEO made an anti pc statement and was demonized for it in the MSM. It's a protest against anti government involvement / anti free speech. Not anti gay. This is my take on it also. |
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I don't see the support as necessarily anti gay. I see it as support for a business whose CEO made an anti pc statement and was demonized for it in the MSM. It's a protest against anti government involvement / anti free speech. Not anti gay. This is my take on it also. |
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the majority isn't on the side of the LGBT. Well no shit...there is a big shocker. That may be true but me and the other members of orgs like PFLAG ARE on the side of equality. You are not fighting this battle by yourself. There's a lot of us breeders out there pulling for our friends and family. As I've said before: Me boycotting Chik Fil A would be like me boycotting Ferrari. I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. I think the CEO was a fool to make a political statement AND I think he's got every right to do so AND I think it's a travesty that government agencies are denying business permits because of bigotry. I'm honestly tired of hearing about this fiasco. It did allow me a great opportunity to cull my facebook friends list. So, there's that. |