Posted: 7/21/2012 9:24:42 PM EDT
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun.
It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. ETA: I am using a Storm Lake barrel, also. |
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Extractor is likely the culprit. What ammo are you using? Mostly WWB, but I tried a few other factory loads. Federal, Remington..... And Tula .
Do I send it back for factory work, or just do it myself though? ETA: Shit, I forgot to add, Im using a Storm Lake barrel. |
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun. It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. At the very least: get a new ejector fitted. Housewench's Gen3 G19 had same issue; cheap fix. Do you mean failure to extract or failure to eject? |
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun. It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. At the very least: get a new ejector fitted. Housewench's Gen3 G19 had same issue; cheap fix. Do you mean failure to extract or failure to eject? Failure to eject. |
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun. It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. At the very least: get a new ejector fitted. Housewench's Gen3 G19 had same issue; cheap fix. Do you mean failure to extract or failure to eject? Failure to eject. Usually look for a lack of isometric tension between the hands with Type 2 malfunctions in Glock pistols, but they tend to occur more often than you stated when this is the culprit. I know all the G-fanbois will scream, but how often is the gun cleaned/lubed? Despite all the polymeric masturbation, the Glock extractor does like to be run fairly clean. Is it a brass-high or brass-low Type 2? ETA: didn't see about the SL barrel, but I'm not sure that's all that likely an issue. |
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun. It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. At the very least: get a new ejector fitted. Housewench's Gen3 G19 had same issue; cheap fix. Do you mean failure to extract or failure to eject? Failure to eject. Usually look for a lack of isometric tension between the hands with Type 2 malfunctions in Glock pistols, but they tend to occur more often than you stated when this is the culprit. I know all the G-fanbois will scream, but how often is the gun cleaned/lubed? Despite all the polymeric masturbation, the Glock extractor does like to be run fairly clean. Is it a brass-high or brass-low Type 2? I dont know what you mean by brass high or low. The brass was lodging itself long ways, to keep the slide open, no stovpipes. It was run clean, but I hadnt lubed it, as I never really had to run my Glocks wet before. |
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun. It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. At the very least: get a new ejector fitted. Housewench's Gen3 G19 had same issue; cheap fix. Do you mean failure to extract or failure to eject? Failure to eject. Usually look for a lack of isometric tension between the hands with Type 2 malfunctions in Glock pistols, but they tend to occur more often than you stated when this is the culprit. I know all the G-fanbois will scream, but how often is the gun cleaned/lubed? Despite all the polymeric masturbation, the Glock extractor does like to be run fairly clean. Is it a brass-high or brass-low Type 2? I dont know what you mean by brass high or low. The brass was lodging itself long ways, to keep the slide open, no stovpipes. It was run clean, but I hadnt lubed it, as I never really had to run my Glocks wet before. Brass low (horizontally stuck in ejection port) might indicate the slide losing some velocity. Dirty rails, sticky chamber, recoil spring gummy...any of these will contribute. Despite all the hoohah about Glock reliability (and they certainly are reliable), they're a precisely-timed machine for proper function like any other self-loading handgun. Muck will slow stuff down. Four Type 2 malfunctions in a new factory gun is not catastrophic. Shoot the shit outta that Glock and it'll likely be as reliable as anything you may find. Same magazine every time indicates a follower or magazine body with a slightly different vertical dwell in the magwell when locked; even a slight difference can upset function. Ejection straight back into your melon needs fixing, though. |
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun. It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. At the very least: get a new ejector fitted. Housewench's Gen3 G19 had same issue; cheap fix. Do you mean failure to extract or failure to eject? Failure to eject. Usually look for a lack of isometric tension between the hands with Type 2 malfunctions in Glock pistols, but they tend to occur more often than you stated when this is the culprit. I know all the G-fanbois will scream, but how often is the gun cleaned/lubed? Despite all the polymeric masturbation, the Glock extractor does like to be run fairly clean. Is it a brass-high or brass-low Type 2? I dont know what you mean by brass high or low. The brass was lodging itself long ways, to keep the slide open, no stovpipes. It was run clean, but I hadnt lubed it, as I never really had to run my Glocks wet before. Brass low (horizontally stuck in ejection port) might indicate the slide losing some velocity. Dirty rails, sticky chamber, recoil spring gummy...any of these will contribute. Despite all the hoohah about Glock reliability (and they certainly are reliable), they're a precisely-timed machine for proper function like any other self-loading handgun. Muck will slow stuff down. Four Type 2 malfunctions in a new factory gun is not catastrophic. Shoot the shit outta that Glock and it'll likely be as reliable as anything you may find. Same magazine every time indicates a follower or magazine body with a slightly different vertical dwell in the magwell when locked; even a slight difference can upset function. Ejection straight back into your melon needs fixing, though. That is mostly what I wanted to hear. I plan on lubing it up good before heading out tomorrow and pumping another 500 round through it. Like I said before, I didnt lube it up before hand, so that was part of my concern. As for it pumping brass back into my melon, what are my options there? |
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As for it pumping brass back into my melon, what are my options there? Glock makes several differently profiled replacement ejectors, and not hard to replace. Like I said earlier, the wife's G19 ejected straight back into her face or cleavage. Quick fix, and I'd do this first to see if this quells your type 2 issues. |
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glocks also sometimes have issues with WWB. I did put some Federal through it as well, with same results. And as far as Glock itself is concerned. I have a G27 that I have put 5000+ rounds through and a G26 that has probably 3000 rounds through. I have never had any problems to speak of through either one of these guns. My faith in Glock is not shaken... Yet... but I would like to shake this problem. |
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As for it pumping brass back into my melon, what are my options there? Glock makes several differently profiled replacement ejectors, and not hard to replace. Like I said earlier, the wife's G19 ejected straight back into her face or cleavage. Quick fix, and I'd do this first to see if this quells your type 2 issues. So what ejector should I get? I have no problem with replacing it myself, as long as I know what to replace it with. |
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As for it pumping brass back into my melon, what are my options there? Glock makes several differently profiled replacement ejectors, and not hard to replace. Like I said earlier, the wife's G19 ejected straight back into her face or cleavage. Quick fix, and I'd do this first to see if this quells your type 2 issues. So what ejector should I get? I have no problem with replacing it myself, as long as I know what to replace it with. Gen 4 9mm, PN 30274, part of the trigger housing. It fixed the ejection issues I had with two recent production G19s and one recent production G34. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Stick to the factory barrel. Oh, and in before the glock kaboom gaywads. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well, I have a Tax stamp pending that relys on this barrel though. Could you elaborate? My ol' noggin ain't processing info like it should anymore Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Stick to the factory barrel. Oh, and in before the glock kaboom gaywads. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well, I have a Tax stamp pending that relys on this barrel though. Could you elaborate? My ol' noggin ain't processing info like it should anymore Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Its a threaded barrel. |
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Stick to the factory barrel. Oh, and in before the glock kaboom gaywads. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well, I have a Tax stamp pending that relys on this barrel though. Could you elaborate? My ol' noggin ain't processing info like it should anymore Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Its a threaded barrel. Wow dude, I'm freaking losing it! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Stick to the factory barrel. Oh, and in before the glock kaboom gaywads. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well, I have a Tax stamp pending that relys on this barrel though. Could you elaborate? My ol' noggin ain't processing info like it should anymore Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Its a threaded barrel. Wow dude, I'm freaking losing it! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ok, I have a threaded barrel, because I have a tax stamp pending on a 9mm supressor. Sorry if I wasnt very clear, I had been drinking heavily. |
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Quoted: Quoted: To clarify, my guns are 3rd gen. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Mine is a recent production 3rd Gen as well, but were you having the same problem as I was also? Yes. I had pictures showing the improved ejection pattern posted in the Glock forum under the Handgun tab, but have since deleted the photos. |
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I got a Gen 3 Glock 19 about a week ago, I intended it to replace my current carry gun. It is my 3rd Glock, and the first Ive had issue with even after 1000 rounds. I like to run about 1000 rounds through any gun flawlessly before I make it a carry gun. This Glock has FTE on my 4 times in 500 rounds, all on the same mag, so that tells me something. The other problem with this gun that I have is that it seems to spit every single shell casing straight back on my head or forehead. I have a real problem with this. It tells me there is something wrong with the gun. Should I send it back, or is it something simple I need to address? Is it the extractor or the extractor spring? What is my problem with this gun? It really bothers me that it bonks me in the head nearly every shot. ETA: I am using a Storm Lake barrel, also. Buy a Glock barrel. |
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I noticed this same "brass in face" issue with a Gen 3 19 that a friend brought to the range a couple months ago. I've never had this even with weak ammo. He has a stock barrel.
I am guessing they are putting a stronger spring in the newer ones, as brass in face and Failure to eject are signs the slide isn't moving back as much as it should, and on the edge of a stovepipe. I would put some lack of faith in an aftermarket barrel as well though. As older Glocks I've owned never got beat up with the older design and weaker spring, I don't see the point of a stronger spring if that's what they did. A definite blemish on Glocks reputation. |
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Stick to the factory barrel. Oh, and in before the glock kaboom gaywads. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well, I have a Tax stamp pending that relys on this barrel though. You're planning on CC'ing a suppressed weapon? I come to that conclusion since you mention it will be your cc handgun but you have a Stormlake threaded barrel for am incoming suppressor. It does sound like an extractor issue and likely has nothing to do with that barrel but if I am looking for a full time carry gun, Im not going to make it do double duty for some other stuff. You my friend need another G19 |
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Extractor is likely the culprit. What ammo are you using? Mostly WWB, but I tried a few other factory loads. Federal, Remington..... And Tula .
Do I send it back for factory work, or just do it myself though? ETA: Shit, I forgot to add, Im using a Storm Lake barrel. Do it yourself. I just bought my first Glock, it was a Model 19. I ordered a couple of add on parts that some members said would make it a bit better. The Glock is ONE OF THE EASIEST handguns I have ever worked on. A two year old can be taught to work on these guns IMHO. |
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A 1911 has a problem with extraction/ejection––-tune the extractor. A Glock has a problem with extraction/ejection––-WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT! Funny how that works, isn't it? ![]() I guess its because people who got used to buying guns that run properly were surprised that they did not. I know I was. |
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A 1911 has a problem with extraction/ejection––-tune the extractor. A Glock has a problem with extraction/ejection––-WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT! Funny how that works, isn't it? ![]() I guess its because people who got used to buying guns that run properly were surprised that they did not. I know I was. The guy has four malfunctions in 500 rounds with the same mag, non-factory barrel and ammo known as Winchester Weak Box. Now I'm not Sherlock Holmes or anything but I'd call those fucking clues. |
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A 1911 has a problem with extraction/ejection––-tune the extractor. A Glock has a problem with extraction/ejection––-WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT! Funny how that works, isn't it? ![]() I guess its because people who got used to buying guns that run properly were surprised that they did not. I know I was. I suppose 4 in 500 might be a little premature. What about ejecting straight back? Or to all points of the compass as mine did? Just get used to it? What about the fact that after I gave up on mine and got my carry pistol out of the truck I was able to shoot the rest of the competition malfunction free, using the same mags, light and ammunition? Glock had a run of 9mm guns with problems. People, and Glock are working to figure it out. The guy has four malfunctions in 500 rounds with the same mag, non-factory barrel and ammo known as Winchester Weak Box. Now I'm not Sherlock Holmes or anything but I'd call those fucking clues. ETA: I operate my pistol much better than my computer. |
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A 1911 has a problem with extraction/ejection––-tune the extractor. A Glock has a problem with extraction/ejection––-WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT! Funny how that works, isn't it? ![]() I guess its because people who got used to buying guns that run properly were surprised that they did not. I know I was. The guy has four malfunctions in 500 rounds with the same mag, non-factory barrel and ammo known as Winchester Weak Box. Now I'm not Sherlock Holmes or anything but I'd call those fucking clues. Roger that. ETA: Though it probably should have the new ejector installed to (most likely) solve the brass to the face issue. |
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A 1911 has a problem with extraction/ejection––-tune the extractor. A Glock has a problem with extraction/ejection––-WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT! Funny how that works, isn't it? ![]() I guess its because people who got used to buying guns that run properly were surprised that they did not. I know I was. The guy has four malfunctions in 500 rounds with the same mag, non-factory barrel and ammo known as Winchester Weak Box. Now I'm not Sherlock Holmes or anything but I'd call those fucking clues. Roger that. ETA: Though it probably should have the new ejector installed to (most likely) solve the brass to the face issue. I am going to put another ejector in. As far as the FTEs, Im 99% sure that those are mag related. With that mag, I had FTEs with WWB as well as Federal. |
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A 1911 has a problem with extraction/ejection––-tune the extractor. A Glock has a problem with extraction/ejection––-WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT! Funny how that works, isn't it? ![]() I guess its because people who got used to buying guns that run properly were surprised that they did not. I know I was. The guy has four malfunctions in 500 rounds with the same mag, non-factory barrel and ammo known as Winchester Weak Box. Now I'm not Sherlock Holmes or anything but I'd call those fucking clues. Roger that. ETA: Though it probably should have the new ejector installed to (most likely) solve the brass to the face issue. I am going to put another ejector in. As far as the FTEs, Im 99% sure that those are mag related. With that mag, I had FTEs with WWB as well as Federal. Just out of curiosity, is the one failing mag a factory Glock or one of the Korean knock offs? If it is a factory magazine, did you get it new? |
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A 1911 has a problem with extraction/ejection––-tune the extractor. A Glock has a problem with extraction/ejection––-WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT! Funny how that works, isn't it? ![]() I guess its because people who got used to buying guns that run properly were surprised that they did not. I know I was. The guy has four malfunctions in 500 rounds with the same mag, non-factory barrel and ammo known as Winchester Weak Box. Now I'm not Sherlock Holmes or anything but I'd call those fucking clues. Roger that. ETA: Though it probably should have the new ejector installed to (most likely) solve the brass to the face issue. I am going to put another ejector in. As far as the FTEs, Im 99% sure that those are mag related. With that mag, I had FTEs with WWB as well as Federal. Just out of curiosity, is the one failing mag a factory Glock or one of the Korean knock offs? If it is a factory magazine, did you get it new? Its a factory Glock mag, and yes, I did get it new. |
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