Posted: 7/20/2012 12:30:20 PM EDT
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Yep just got this in a mass email.
We should all feel sorry for the those murdered and injured in Aurora, Colorado last night. I believe it's in our nature to feel for those people, even though we may not know them, as fellow members of our human family. After we're done with the sympathy, however, why can't we finally use this to spur action, to do something about a gun culture in our nation that permits the continued and unbridled violence that makes us first in the world in homicide by firearm, a dubious distinction to say the very least.
Yes, as a constitutional scholar, I am well aware that we have a Second Amendment which outlines our right to bear arms, and I'm also aware that the US Supreme Court , with its decisions in Heller and McDonald v. Chicago, has finally after two centuries given groups like the NRA an affirmative statement that the right to bear arms is protected. Fine. We have this constitutional right. But, we have other constitutional rights as well, and they are not absolute, and in fact are restricted continuously and rightfully so. We have a right to free speech, but we cannot use this right to libel or slander or defame others, or to yell fire in a crowded theater, and we have rules regarding the time place and manner with which we exercise this right. We have the right to practice our religion, and yet we cannot ingest illegal drugs as part of it, or sacrifice virgins in praise of it. We have a right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, and yet we permit the Patriot Act, and tracking of our cell phone signals and IP addresses. We have the right to travel freely throughout this nation, and yet we aren't then guaranteed to travel FOR free - we need licenses, insurance, registration to drive cars, we support the oil industry with our weekly fill-ups, and the price of an airline ticket continues to grow, not to mention the personally intrusive cost of having to strip down at the TSA checkpoint and lift my moobs for inspection to show I'm not a danger to others. The point is, we have rights, but they are not absolute. So, today I propose what I'll call "Aurora Liability". Here in Massachusetts, when you are convicted of drunk driving, the judge asks whether the last drink you had was at a public establishment, and if it was, that establishment is reported to the Alcoholic Beverage Commission, and their license can be placed in jeopardy. Simply put, "Aurora Liability" on a national or state scale would work like this - if you are the manufacturer and/or seller of a weapon that is used in the unlawful injury or homicide of another person, you are strictly liable for the damages caused by your product. Criminal liability, civil liability, what have you. If corporations and businesses want to be recognized as persons, then they should bear the same liabilities as persons, including the criminal and civil responsibility for the wrongful yet predictable end results of the usage of their product. This Aurora Liability won't affect the "self-defense" crowd, or the "I use my gun for target practice/hunting" crowd; as I said, Aurora Liability is for the dealer, and only punishes the "unlawful" injury/death of another. I know there are many friends of mine out there smarter than I (or at least you think you are) who will point out the holes. All laws start imperfectly. But, if we don't start somewhere, we'll never move forward. It's time to stop mourning, and bemoaning, and do what America does better than anyone - start a war. This time, let's make it a war against those that are killing us from the inside, instead of people in caves 6,000 miles away.  
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Yep just got this in a mass email. We should all feel sorry for the those murdered and injured in Aurora, Colorado last night. I believe it's in our nature to feel for those people, even though we may not know them, as fellow members of our human family. After we're done with the sympathy, however, why can't we finally use this to spur action, to do something about a gun culture in our nation that permits the continued and unbridled violence that makes us first in the world in homicide by firearm, a dubious distinction to say the very least.
Yes, as a constitutional scholar, I am well aware that we have a Second Amendment which outlines our right to bear arms, and I'm also aware that the US Supreme Court , with its decisions in Heller and McDonald v. Chicago, has finally after two centuries given groups like the NRA an affirmative statement that the right to bear arms is protected. Fine. We have this constitutional right. But, we have other constitutional rights as well, and they are not absolute, and in fact are restricted continuously and rightfully so. We have a right to free speech, but we cannot use this right to libel or slander or defame others, or to yell fire in a crowded theater, and we have rules regarding the time place and manner with which we exercise this right. We have the right to practice our religion, and yet we cannot ingest illegal drugs as part of it, or sacrifice virgins in praise of it. We have a right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, and yet we permit the Patriot Act, and tracking of our cell phone signals and IP addresses. We have the right to travel freely throughout this nation, and yet we aren't then guaranteed to travel FOR free - we need licenses, insurance, registration to drive cars, we support the oil industry with our weekly fill-ups, and the price of an airline ticket continues to grow, not to mention the personally intrusive cost of having to strip down at the TSA checkpoint and lift my moobs for inspection to show I'm not a danger to others. The point is, we have rights, but they are not absolute. So, today I propose what I'll call "Aurora Liability". Here in Massachusetts, when you are convicted of drunk driving, the judge asks whether the last drink you had was at a public establishment, and if it was, that establishment is reported to the Alcoholic Beverage Commission, and their license can be placed in jeopardy. Simply put, "Aurora Liability" on a national or state scale would work like this - if you are the manufacturer and/or seller of a weapon that is used in the unlawful injury or homicide of another person, you are strictly liable for the damages caused by your product. Criminal liability, civil liability, what have you. If corporations and businesses want to be recognized as persons, then they should bear the same liabilities as persons, including the criminal and civil responsibility for the wrongful yet predictable end results of the usage of their product. This Aurora Liability won't affect the "self-defense" crowd, or the "I use my gun for target practice/hunting" crowd; as I said, Aurora Liability is for the dealer, and only punishes the "unlawful" injury/death of another. I know there are many friends of mine out there smarter than I (or at least you think you are) who will point out the holes. All laws start imperfectly. But, if we don't start somewhere, we'll never move forward. It's time to stop mourning, and bemoaning, and do what America does better than anyone - start a war. This time, let's make it a war against those that are killing us from the inside, instead of people in caves 6,000 miles away. Oh the irony......... Fucking libtard from Masshole. Go figure. |
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Yep just got this in a mass email. We should all feel sorry for the those murdered and injured in Aurora, Colorado last night. I believe it's in our nature to feel for those people, even though we may not know them, as fellow members of our human family. After we're done with the sympathy, however, why can't we finally use this to spur action, to do something about a gun culture in our nation that permits the continued and unbridled violence that makes us first in the world in homicide by firearm, a dubious distinction to say the very least. Yes, as a constitutional scholar, I am well aware... This guy is as much constitutional scholar as Helen Thomas is a Victoria Secret model. |
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That email is too well written and ties in too much to Demo talking points to be legit. I like the use of Zero's campaign slogan artfully placed near the end. This email is the product of a campaign marketing effort. Nothing more to it. It is just part of the manipulation of the mass appeal of internet communication. |
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Yep just got this in a mass email. We should all feel sorry for the those murdered and injured in Aurora, Colorado last night. I believe it's in our nature to feel for those people, even though we may not know them, as fellow members of our human family. After we're done with the sympathy, however, why can't we finally use this to spur action, to do something about a gun culture in our nation that permits the continued and unbridled violence that makes us first in the world in homicide by firearm, a dubious distinction to say the very least. Yes, as a constitutional scholar, I am well aware... This guy is as much constitutional scholar as Helen Thomas is a Victoria Secret model. Can we get a photoshop, PLEASE? |
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Prior to the 1993 OKC bombing, the largest mass murder incident was done with a 50 cent container of gasoline and two matches by one of Jimmy Carter's Cuban boat people. Julio Gonzalez killed 87 people at the Happy Land Dance Club in the Bronx in 1990 by setting the entrance on fire. Gonzalez is due for a parole hearing in 2015. |
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Yep just got this in a mass email. We should all feel sorry for the those murdered and injured in Aurora, Colorado last night. I believe it's in our nature to feel for those people, even though we may not know them, as fellow members of our human family. After we're done with the sympathy, however, why can't we finally use this to spur action, to do something about a gun culture in our nation that permits the continued and unbridled violence that makes us first in the world in homicide by firearm, a dubious distinction to say the very least. Yes, as a constitutional scholar, I am well aware... This guy is as much constitutional scholar as Helen Thomas is a Victoria Secret model. Can we get a photoshop, PLEASE? Oh, for the love of God, NO! |
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So if I fall off a ladder, I can sue the ladder company? What if that ladder was leaning against my house? Can I sue the home builder? What about the company that laid my sod for not providing a stable enough surface on which to place a ladder. What about the screwdriver company whose tool I was using and then happened to impale me. What about me jeans manufactureer because the jeands didn't protect me? Oh, I prbably fell because I tripped over my shoelace. Can I sue Nike? What about the company the bought the rubber in the soles from? What about the trucking company that brought them that rubber? Can I sue the city for not protecting me from myself by creating a law that states no ladders? What about the state. Hey, my neighbor should have warned me or tried to catch me, I'm suing him too.
See you guys when I get out of the hospital. Under this idiot's proposal, I'll be rich in a few months. Guy is an idiot. 1st amendment = right to free speech, but there are laws against libel. 2nd amendment = right to bear arms, but last I checked there are laws against murder. Libtard logic, or lack thereof. |
!!! Another, "lets hold everbody else responsible" theory by yet another super smart, intellectual, liberal jackass.
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............if you are the manufacturer and/or seller of a weapon that is used in the unlawful injury or homicide of another person, you are strictly liable for the damages caused by your product. Criminal liability, civil liability, what have you.
So I guess Boeing should be worried? 
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