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6/7/2012 11:10:43 AM EDT
I purchased a handgun advertised on AR15.com. The day the seller recieved the funds was the last time I heard from him. He will not return my emails. It has been over a week now. I'm out $1,000.00 and feel like such a sucker. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
6/7/2012 11:12:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Start a thread in the Feed Back forum with the details, leaving out the person's name & address.. Mods/Staff will try to their best to help you.  Good Luck






6/7/2012 11:12:23 AM EDT
[#2]
The EE has some great mods, have you contacted them?
6/7/2012 11:12:25 AM EDT
[#3]
How did you send the funds?  Do you have proof that he received them?

Contact a Mod in the EE forum and they can probably help you out.  

Thieves should be hung
6/7/2012 11:13:00 AM EDT
[#4]
What is his screen name?
Did he give you any contact information?Try doing a google search on him.
6/7/2012 11:13:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Start a thread in the Feed Back forum with the details, leaving out the person's name & address.. Mods/Staff will try to their best to help you.  Good Luck




This.  I've even sent an IM with a link to one of the mods before just to make sure they spot it.
6/7/2012 11:14:22 AM EDT
[#6]
this one:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_88/983292_WTS__Bowie_Tactical_Concepts_Customized_MandP_With_Price_reduction___.html

ETA: Seller had ~30 posts and zero feedback... his photobucket account does have like 180 pictures though, so at least that's something.
6/7/2012 11:18:16 AM EDT
[#7]
Hope it works out for you OP, but I dont send money to anyone with the following;

Low post count

Non team member

Zero feedback.


This is why the feedback is so important.

6/7/2012 11:19:05 AM EDT
[#8]
There is a place for things like this.The EE feedback forum http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_7/109_Feedback_ONLY.html

Additionally, I would contact one of the EE mods (Dog1 has helped me with some EE questions in the past).
6/7/2012 11:57:58 AM EDT
[#9]
Thanks to all for the help. I have contacted raptor22 but have not heard back.I sent the funds next day fed ex so I know when and what time he recieved them. I have his name and address information. The money loss is not the worst of it but rather I can't sleep at night thinking about him. I hate a thief.
6/7/2012 11:59:20 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Hope it works out for you OP, but I dont send money to anyone with the following;

Low post count

Non team member

Zero feedback.


This is why the feedback is so important.



I'm a non-team member and have had many pleasant dealing on the site. Not sure it should be a deal breaker.
6/7/2012 12:09:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Raptor22 will take care of you.  If you dont hear by tomorrow, you can contact Dog1 or one of the EE staff (munyguru or Wilson.)

Our EE staff is GOOD at what they do.
6/7/2012 12:15:40 PM EDT
[#12]
that blows. Sorry OP. hope you get it all sorted out.
6/7/2012 12:16:42 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


Raptor22 will take care of you.  If you dont hear by tomorrow, you can contact Dog1 or one of the EE staff (munyguru or Wilson.)



Our EE staff is GOOD at what they do.


Yeah dawg... big hitter in tha house.

 
6/7/2012 12:19:16 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hope it works out for you OP, but I dont send money to anyone with the following;

Low post count

Non team member

Zero feedback.


This is why the feedback is so important.



I'm a non-team member and have had many pleasant dealing on the site. Not sure it should be a deal breaker.


But you do have Positive feedback and have been around awhile. Im talking about if somene had all 3 things going against them, sorry, just my personal policy and guess what? Ive never been ripped off. Not saying it cant happen, but if I stick to my list of criteria of whom I deal with or not, it just protects me.  

6/7/2012 12:23:05 PM EDT
[#15]


The mods will have just about every piece of info there is to have on that guy in no time. Good luck.

6/7/2012 12:36:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
this one:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_88/983292_WTS__Bowie_Tactical_Concepts_Customized_MandP_With_Price_reduction___.html

ETA: Seller had ~30 posts and zero feedback... his photobucket account does have like 180 pictures though, so at least that's something.


See if there's any exif data in those photos. Might give you an exact location.
6/7/2012 12:56:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I purchased a handgun advertised on AR15.com. The day the seller recieved the funds was the last time I heard from him. He will not return my emails. It has been over a week now. I'm out $1,000.00 and feel like such a sucker. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Doesn't a handgun purchase have to go through an FFL if your out of state?
You say you Fedex'd him the money..just curious why you don't have his contact info, like name, address, telephone?
6/7/2012 1:04:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I purchased a handgun advertised on AR15.com. The day the seller recieved the funds was the last time I heard from him. He will not return my emails. It has been over a week now. I'm out $1,000.00 and feel like such a sucker. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Doesn't a handgun purchase have to go through an FFL if your out of state?
You say you Fedex'd him the money..just curious why you don't have his contact info, like name, address, telephone?


In his other post he says he has the name and address. .

OP can't you Google search him? Maybe come up with a phone number and call him? He last logged in here 6/2 at 9:14 am. Hope it all works out. I hate thieves. We're obviously way to lenient and understanding with them. If I were king it would be.....different.
6/7/2012 1:04:48 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Start a thread in the Feed Back forum with the details, leaving out the person's name & address.. Mods/Staff will try to their best to help you.  Good Luck




Why leave the persons name out?
He may be running another scam.
6/7/2012 1:05:25 PM EDT
[#20]
Too me a thousand bucks is worth a road trip.  Good luck.
6/7/2012 1:08:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I purchased a handgun advertised on AR15.com. The day the seller recieved the funds was the last time I heard from him. He will not return my emails. It has been over a week now. I'm out $1,000.00 and feel like such a sucker. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.




Need more details.
When did he receive payment?
Do you have his shipping FFl?
What type of gun is involved?
Do you have photos of the gun?
What instrument was used to make payment?
etc etc
6/7/2012 1:15:22 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Start a thread in the Feed Back forum with the details, leaving out the person's name & address.. Mods/Staff will try to their best to help you.  Good Luck




Why leave the persons name out?
He may be running another scam.


Names are not posted until there is enough evidence to feel that person in question is 100% a crook.  Until then names/personal info are left out of the public view

6/7/2012 1:19:19 PM EDT
[#23]
The seller has to have a good reason for not responding, or he's the worst criminal in the world.

This one is easy to solve.
6/7/2012 1:19:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
this one:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_88/983292_WTS__Bowie_Tactical_Concepts_Customized_MandP_With_Price_reduction___.html

ETA: Seller had ~30 posts and zero feedback... his photobucket account does have like 180 pictures though, so at least that's something.


See if there's any exif data in those photos. Might give you an exact location.


The address the OP already has will be even more accurate than the gps cords in the pics

6/7/2012 1:19:58 PM EDT
[#25]
ON a forum I hang out on you have to have 50 meaningful posts and at least 90 days before you can sell anything.

This stuff basically never happens,I think about 6 years ago was the last time that I can remember.


 
6/7/2012 1:29:48 PM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

this one:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_88/983292_WTS__Bowie_Tactical_Concepts_Customized_MandP_With_Price_reduction___.html



ETA: Seller had ~30 posts and zero feedback... his photobucket account does have like 180 pictures though, so at least that's something.




See if there's any exif data in those photos. Might give you an exact location.




The address the OP already has will be even more accurate than the gps cords in the pics



Unless he had the buyer send the money to a different address.

The Exif data in the pics shows his home address.

There are pictures from aBoyscout event there that could be used to find him very easily.





 
6/7/2012 1:33:32 PM EDT
[#27]
Tag because I love watching thieves get curb stomped.
 
6/7/2012 1:34:14 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Thanks to all for the help. I have contacted raptor22 but have not heard back.I sent the funds next day fed ex so I know when and what time he recieved them. I have his name and address information. The money loss is not the worst of it but rather I can't sleep at night thinking about him. I hate a thief.


What type of Money Order did you use? There is recourse depending on what type you actually sent as payment.
6/7/2012 1:37:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
ON a forum I hang out on you have to have 50 meaningful posts and at least 90 days before you can sell anything.
This stuff basically never happens,I think about 6 years ago was the last time that I can remember.
 


Has GD hit 50 meaningful post yet?

Good luck OP.

I'm sure it will work out.

6/7/2012 1:41:56 PM EDT
[#30]
Your boy looks to be the tubby guy in the blue strip shirt in the BoyScout pics

I hope this is not a theft case but simply something else, although something else may mean something happened to the seller
6/7/2012 1:45:48 PM EDT
[#31]


Just went through the "Sellers" photos.
He has a really nice looking family.
I pray this is resolved without any recrimination.
6/7/2012 1:46:37 PM EDT
[#32]
4 posts in 2 and a half years?
6/7/2012 3:46:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
4 posts in 2 and a half years?


So?
6/7/2012 3:53:41 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
4 posts in 2 and a half years?


So?


I just sold something to a guy that only has 9 posts in 7 years.....and I am the first person to leave him feedback
6/7/2012 3:56:50 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Thanks to all for the help. I have contacted raptor22 but have not heard back.I sent the funds next day fed ex so I know when and what time he recieved them. I have his name and address information. The money loss is not the worst of it but rather I can't sleep at night thinking about him. I hate a thief.


Doesn't look good bub:


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6/7/2012 3:56:53 PM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:



Quoted:

4 posts in 2 and a half years?




So?


Quit trying to bump your post count...




 
6/7/2012 6:23:55 PM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:


4 posts in 2 and a half years?


I hardly ever posted my first few years here, didn't even look in GD or the HTF for those first few years, I was only looking at technical stuff :-)



 
6/7/2012 6:35:53 PM EDT
[#38]
That's awful. $1,000 is a lot to me, I wouldn't be able to sleep until it was cleared up someway somehow. Shit like this is stupid and why so many people are afraid to do sales/trades online. Have some morals, be a man not a thief

Hope ARFCOM is able to do something for you OP. I would be pissed.
6/7/2012 6:41:06 PM EDT
[#39]




Quoted:

The seller has to have a good reason for not responding, or he's the worst criminal in the world.



This one is easy to solve.




Pretty much.  I mean, you take that kind of money with no merchandise sent in return, we start talking about grand theft, wire fraud, mail fraud, etc...
6/7/2012 6:47:17 PM EDT
[#40]
It seems awfully dumb to post all those pics of his family, and perhaps himself, if he is using that account to scam people though.  
 
6/7/2012 7:40:42 PM EDT
[#41]
that sucks

sorry to hear that OP

good luck getting this resolved

6/7/2012 7:42:30 PM EDT
[#42]





Quoted:



ON a forum I hang out on you have to have 50 meaningful posts and at least 90 days before you can sell anything.


This stuff basically never happens,I think about 6 years ago was the last time that I can remember.


 



Badger and blade?


 



EDIT that is 45 days and 50 posts
6/7/2012 8:01:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
I purchased a handgun advertised on AR15.com. The day the seller recieved the funds was the last time I heard from him. He will not return my emails. It has been over a week now. I'm out $1,000.00 and feel like such a sucker. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


As mentioned below...

Did it go through an FFL?    Did you send him your receiving dealer's info?    Did he ship from an FFL to yours?    

It looks bad...but if he's having a dealer ship it via regular USPS (Dealers can do so) to your FFL...the problem can be at his FFL end or your FFL's end (let alone USPS).

And...I've in the past..had a gun sit at a receiving dealer for several days before they realized it was for me.   Especially if the shipper didn't put specific info in the package.

More info is definitely needed...

AFARR
6/7/2012 8:12:54 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Raptor22 will take care of you.  If you dont hear by tomorrow, you can contact Dog1 or one of the EE staff (munyguru or Wilson.)

Our EE staff is GOOD at what they do.


Yes, yes they are.  Fortunately I have only needed their services on two occasions.
6/7/2012 8:15:31 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I purchased a handgun advertised on AR15.com. The day the seller recieved the funds was the last time I heard from him. He will not return my emails. It has been over a week now. I'm out $1,000.00 and feel like such a sucker. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


As mentioned below...

Did it go through an FFL?    Did you send him your receiving dealer's info?    Did he ship from an FFL to yours?    

It looks bad...but if he's having a dealer ship it via regular USPS (Dealers can do so) to your FFL...the problem can be at his FFL end or your FFL's end (let alone USPS).

And...I've in the past..had a gun sit at a receiving dealer for several days before they realized it was for me.   Especially if the shipper didn't put specific info in the package.

More info is definitely needed...

AFARR


Yeah, it's a little early to go into full panic mode.
6/7/2012 8:22:27 PM EDT
[#46]
For the lack of communication on a fairly high-dollar item alone, even if it was actually shipped, fuck the seller.
6/7/2012 8:23:47 PM EDT
[#47]





Quoted:



Thanks to all for the help. I have contacted raptor22 but have not heard back.I sent the funds next day fed ex so I know when and what time he recieved them. I have his name and address information. The money loss is not the worst of it but rather I can't sleep at night thinking about him. I hate a thief.



Holy hell, you scared me. I thought you were saying raptor22 was the seller. I was like WTF?




 
 
6/10/2012 4:17:46 AM EDT
[#48]
Updates??
6/10/2012 4:24:05 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Too me a thousand bucks is worth a road trip.  Good luck.


Just for fun.
6/10/2012 4:35:35 AM EDT
[#50]
Where in NC is this guy located.  Perhaps some of us in the NCHTF can pay a small visit?  There are quite a few LEO's amongst our ranks and we all frown upon this sort of thing.
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