[ARCHIVED THREAD] - I hate HOA's (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/6/2012 2:10:17 PM EDT
| I hear people complaining about associations, only ever had little issues with them but never anything major... I rent in a HOA, they changed the laws on animals, saying only people who own are allowed to own pets and renters are not allowed.. this goes in to effect in October, I'm pretty much screwed unless I get rid of dog, I don't know much about Florida law governing HOA's but would cost me the same to move as it would to get an attorney.. Fuck Associations.. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, if I am already living there I would tell them to piss up a rope. You under a lease? Lease Expired about a month ago, they were sending down a new lease but it wouldn't matter, it goes in effect in October and pretty much says leases don't matter Your landlord will be bound by the lease to let you ride it out. HOA can do shit to you as a renter. |
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I would imagine that they would grandfather current tenants in to something like that. Have you tried talking to the HOA about this? Speed I did, they said they no one is grandfathered and "We worked on this for awhile with our attorneys so theres no getting around this" Quoted:
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I would imagine that they would grandfather current tenants in to something like that. Have you tried talking to the HOA about this? Speed I did, they said they no one is grandfathered and "We worked on this for awhile with our attorneys so theres no getting around this" Quoted:
house or condo? Condo Translation: We're telling you this so you won't try. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I would imagine that they would grandfather current tenants in to something like that. Have you tried talking to the HOA about this? Speed I did, they said they no one is grandfathered and "We worked on this for awhile with our attorneys so theres no getting around this" Quoted: house or condo? Condo That sucks ass. Shit, for $1400/mo you can buy a badass 4 bed/2bath house on an acre or 2 where I live, taxes and all, and still have some cash leftover  I'd say start looking for a new place. Speed |
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I would imagine that they would grandfather current tenants in to something like that. Have you tried talking to the HOA about this? Speed I did, they said they no one is grandfathered and "We worked on this for awhile with our attorneys so theres no getting around this" Quoted:
house or condo? Condo Translation: We're telling you this so you won't try. Yep. EXACTLY what I was thinking. *Shakey fist* This bluff is no bluff!!! |
| Move. If your lease says you can own pets or if you have some sort of other pet agreement, I'd say the argue that the lease has been broken if the rules change part way into the term and you are suddenly not allowed to own pets. Ask a lawyer about it, but I'd expect that you could send him a 30-day written notice of your intent to leave because of the pet issue, then move to a suitable house without worries about getting sued. Again, I don't know what Florida law is, so ask an attorney. |
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I hear people complaining about associations, only ever had little issues with them but never anything major... I rent in a HOA, they changed the laws on animals, saying only people who own are allowed to own pets and renters are not allowed.. this goes in to effect in October, I'm pretty much screwed unless I get rid of dog, I don't know much about Florida law governing HOA's but would cost me the same to move as it would to get an attorney.. Fuck Associations.. The HOA can't do anything to you. They can go after your landlord, but if your lease says you can have a dog, landlord is pretty much stuck. |
| When I rented I was in an HOA and they LOVED picking on us. Neighbors who owned could have weeds all over the place and it was ok, we have 1 weed, Fined. Now I own and had a neightbor who rented. they told him he couldnt park his car on the street, yet EVERYONE that lived in the area, and owned, did, and was never bothered about parking on the street. |
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Quoted: pretty much.Quoted: Quoted: I would imagine that they would grandfather current tenants in to something like that. Have you tried talking to the HOA about this? Speed I did, they said they no one is grandfathered and "We worked on this for awhile with our attorneys so theres no getting around this" Quoted: house or condo? Condo That sucks ass. Shit, for $1400/mo you can buy a badass 4 bed/2bath house on an acre or 2 where I live, taxes and all, and still have some cash leftover I'd say start looking for a new place. Speed |
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OP needs to see a Therapist...
An emotional support animal (ESA) is a US legal term for a pet which provides therapeutic benefit to its owner through companionship and affection. Emotional support animals are not specially trained to ameliorate disability as psychiatric service dogs are. They require only as much training as an ordinary pet requires in order to live peacefully among humans without being a nuisance or a danger to others.
In the U.S., two federal laws grant special rights to some owners of emotional support animals. The Fair Housing Amendments Act of 1988 (42 USC 3601, et seq.) establishes a procedure for modifying "no pets" policies in most types of housing to permit a person with a disability to keep a pet for emotional support.[1][2] In housing that allows pets but charges supplemental rent or deposits for them, these fees must be waived. The ESA's owner can be charged for actual damage done by the animal, but they may not require the applicant to pay a fee or a security deposit in order to keep the animal.[3] -WIKIPEDIA |
| HOA are bad for everyone. Mini Gestapo. We had to take our home owners ASS to court and won. They put a fat woman that didn't work, in charge of fines and she fined everyone in the neighborhood for everything possible. I had around $3,000. in fines for not parking my car in the garage and having my garbage can left out. Judge ruled they had no power to fine anyone!!!!!! |
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Yeah, if I am already living there I would tell them to piss up a rope. You under a lease? Lease Expired about a month ago, they were sending down a new lease but it wouldn't matter, it goes in effect in October and pretty much says leases don't matter In most cases HOAs are limited to enforcing restrictive covenants attached to the deed. Since you are leasing you don't have a copy of the deed, but it is public record and should be available at your county courthouse. If it isn't in the deed you may get them to back down, however since you are a renter and not an owner you are at a disadvantage here. |
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OP needs to see a Therapist... An emotional support animal (ESA) is a US legal term for a pet which provides therapeutic benefit to its owner through companionship and affection. Emotional support animals are not specially trained to ameliorate disability as psychiatric service dogs are. They require only as much training as an ordinary pet requires in order to live peacefully among humans without being a nuisance or a danger to others.
In the U.S., two federal laws grant special rights to some owners of emotional support animals. The Fair Housing Amendments Act of 1988 (42 USC 3601, et seq.) establishes a procedure for modifying "no pets" policies in most types of housing to permit a person with a disability to keep a pet for emotional support.[1][2] In housing that allows pets but charges supplemental rent or deposits for them, these fees must be waived. The ESA's owner can be charged for actual damage done by the animal, but they may not require the applicant to pay a fee or a security deposit in order to keep the animal.[3] -WIKIPEDIA Do this. Get your dog qualified as an ESA. Then when the HOA comes after you, sue them for violating the law. That'll shut them down pretty quick. HOAs hate it when you throw actual laws up against their covenants. |
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OP needs to see a Therapist... An emotional support animal (ESA) is a US legal term for a pet which provides therapeutic benefit to its owner through companionship and affection. Emotional support animals are not specially trained to ameliorate disability as psychiatric service dogs are. They require only as much training as an ordinary pet requires in order to live peacefully among humans without being a nuisance or a danger to others.
In the U.S., two federal laws grant special rights to some owners of emotional support animals. The Fair Housing Amendments Act of 1988 (42 USC 3601, et seq.) establishes a procedure for modifying "no pets" policies in most types of housing to permit a person with a disability to keep a pet for emotional support.[1][2] In housing that allows pets but charges supplemental rent or deposits for them, these fees must be waived. The ESA's owner can be charged for actual damage done by the animal, but they may not require the applicant to pay a fee or a security deposit in order to keep the animal.[3] -WIKIPEDIA I like that one. Call it a service animal instead of a pet. You might win a huge lawsuit against them if they push it. |
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I wont even go into the whole story but I just told my HOA I would foreclose on my house if they wouldn't leave me TF alone. It all boils down to
the brown paint on my front door isnt the brown paint they want me to have. I'm 100k upside down in the home and now they wanna be fascists when I pay my HOA dues every month like clockwork. 
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I wont even go into the whole story but I just told my HOA I would foreclose on my house if they wouldn't leave me TF alone. It all boils down to the brown paint on my front door isnt the brown paint they want me to have. I'm 100k upside down in the home and now they wanna be fascists when I pay my HOA dues every month like clockwork. Nice. How'd they respond? |
| The board president didnt respond to the Fascist comment. She emailed me to say""""" Section 12.8 also deems that should an owner fail to remove or restore the violation, the HOA has the right to enter the property , remove the violation and restore the property to substantially the same condition as existed prior. You would then incur all costs including any attorney fees.""""" Thats what flipped me out. |
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The board president didnt respond to the Fascist comment. She emailed me to say""""" Section 12.8 also deems that should an owner fail to remove or restore the violation, the HOA has the right to enter the property , remove the violation and restore the property to substantially the same condition as existed prior. You would then incur all costs including any attorney fees.""""" Thats what flipped me out. Rent out your house under section 8. Win. |
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OP, I think your HOA might have a legal problem. They've allowed you to keep that pet for so long that they might not be able to force you to get rid of it.
But the fact that your lease is up might tweak that. I recommend you look for someone to contact locally. A legal clinic or renters board or something. Even a lawyer, ask if they can suggest a place you can call for advice on this. |
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Quoted: The board president didnt respond to the Fascist comment. She emailed me to say""""" Section 12.8 also deems that should an owner fail to remove or restore the violation, the HOA has the right to enter the property , remove the violation and restore the property to substantially the same condition as existed prior. You would then incur all costs including any attorney fees.""""" Thats what flipped me out. Um...Enter my property and there is a huge chance of somebody winning some lead. |
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Quoted: HOA Are for Liberals They tell you how your lawn should look What color to paint If you can have a American flag If your gas guzzling truck should be allowed in you drive way. Yep a Fucking liberal Wet Dream is living in a HOA HOAs are actually a libertarian's answer to government zoning and housing codes: Members of a neighborhood join together, decide how they want their neighborhood to look, and agree via contract to obey the rules. All private, all voluntary. The fact that some HOAs are run by control freaks doesn't change that. |
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The board president didnt respond to the Fascist comment. She emailed me to say""""" Section 12.8 also deems that should an owner fail to remove or restore the violation, the HOA has the right to enter the property , remove the violation and restore the property to substantially the same condition as existed prior. You would then incur all costs including any attorney fees.""""" Thats what flipped me out. Um...Enter my property and there is a huge chance of somebody winning some lead. It would never be the fat cunt, so why should she care? Just section 8 the place out, sit back and laugh. Or look for an eject clause in the HOA rules. Maybe a petition or something. |